Waratahs 2020

[Braveheart81]

le Jono Lance?

I don't he's nearly as French nor has as many neck tattoos.

 

[TSR]

I’m intrigued on the plans with Beale.

On first look, the plan to take the pressure off Harrison & Donaldson seems fair enough. For mine, they are both wonderful young prospects and it seems to me a reasonable chance at least one of them will go on to good things if their development is properly managed.

But, in terms of Beale himself, I don’t really see that playing him at 10 does him any favours. Even less now with the recruitment of Maddocks.

For mine the form of Beale has been patchy/below par since the end of the 2018 Super Rugby season. He really needs to be allowed to settle in one position and play their consistently to get the best out of him. For me, his best position is 15 - maybe for him/the coaching staff it is 12 - but I think it has been proven it’s not 10.

Ultimately the coaching staff make a decision based on what is overall best for the team but, for mine, playing your most capped Wallaby in his best spot is a pretty sensible start.

I imagine Maddocks has only moved back if he has a fair degree of confidence that he will be playing 15 but if I return to my original comment around the promise of Harrison/Donaldson I reckon you could do worse than playing a backline of Gordon, Harrison/Donaldson, Clark/Kellaway/Nawaqinatawase, Hunt, Moeroa/Foketi, Maddocks, Beale. With the likes of Gordon, Beale
& Maddocks around them I reckon Harrison & Donaldson are good enough to look at starting.

 

[Blackadder]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/...y/news-story/a0940aae6ebf87c3ef84ff7a2ab2848d

Interview with Penney about plans for season

 

[fatprop]

As usual whether Beale (or another) does well at 10 will be down to the pigs providing quality first phase ball and consistent, quick front foot ruck ball

If they do, he will be fine; if they don't, it will be his fault and we will be whinging about the length of clearance kicks again

(it is always the pigs)

 

[TSR]

Ok - but that wasn’t really my point.

Front foot ball or not, I don’t see a Beale’s best spot as 10. The justification for playing him there appears to be that it is best for the team whilst they take a measured approach to bringing on the young guys. I’m questioning the logic of that. I definitely don’t think it is in Beale’s best interests, and I’m not sure it’s in the teams best interests either.

Maybe Penney has challenged Beale to win the vacant Wallaby 10 spot or maybe he simply doesn’t think Harrison or Donaldson are ready yet. On face value I get the rational, but I think the logic is a bit flawed. From my armchair, of course.

 

[fatprop]

Ok - but that wasn’t really my point.

Front foot ball or not, I don’t see a Beale’s best spot as 10. The justification for playing him there appears to be that it is best for the team whilst they take a measured approach to bringing on the young guys. I’m questioning the logic of that. I definitely don’t think it is in Beale’s best interests, and I’m not sure it’s in the teams best interests either.

Maybe Penney has challenged Beale to win the vacant Wallaby 10 spot or maybe he simply doesn’t think Harrison or Donaldson are ready yet. On face value I get the rational, but I think the logic is a bit flawed. From my armchair, of course.

He led the Tahs to a final at 10 with Carter & Horne outside him, he can do a job

 

[wamberal]

As usual whether Beale (or another) does well at 10 will be down to the pigs providing quality first phase ball and consistent, quick front foot ruck ball



(it is always the pigs)

Some Australian 10s of recent memory could not kick very far no matter what the quality of the ball. Kicking for touch from a penalty is a pretty good indicator, n'est-ce pas?

 

[dru]

He led the Tahs to a final at 10 with Carter & Horne outside him, he can do a job

Who knows, the change may even be the spark that re-invigorates his career. Personally I find it messy, but no doubt 'Tah supporters have reason to hope.

 

[TSR]

He led the Tahs to a final at 10 with Carter & Horne outside him, he can do a job

Yeah, but again that isn’t what I am questioning.

I’m not arguing whether Beale can do the job. I am saying I’m not convinced it’s the best way for the Tahs to deploy their available resources.

 

[Jimmy_Crouch]

I reckon you could do worse than playing a backline of Gordon, Harrison/Donaldson, Clark/Kellaway/Nawaqinatawase, Hunt, Moeroa/Foketi, Maddocks, Beale.

FYI Kellaway is at the Rebels

 

[fatprop]

Some Australian 10s of recent memory could not kick very far no matter what the quality of the ball. Kicking for touch from a penalty is a pretty good indicator, n'est-ce pas?

 

[TSR]

FYI Kellaway is at the Rebels

Lol - sorry, I meant Newsome.

 

[Adam84]

He led the Tahs to a final at 10 with Carter & Horne outside him, he can do a job

That was a decade ago... age catches up with these players. QC (Quade Cooper) and Foley were both shadows of their former selves as well

 

[boyo]

TRIAL MATCH​

NSW Waratahs v Highlanders​

Date​

: Friday 17 January​

Gates Open​

: 5:30pm​

Kick-off​

: 6:45pm​

Venue​

: Leichhardt Oval​

​

 

[Bobby Sands]

No Foley must be a blessing next season.

Hope Mack get at least one more shot - if not I think the Reds should take him.

 

[formerflanker]

no doubt 'Tah supporters have reason to hope.

As has been the case for us since time immemorial.

 

[Silverado]

https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/01/12/super-waratahs-forwards

 

[Pass it to Dunning!]

https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2020/01/12/super-waratahs-forwards

Nothing will get the fans back like winning games through rolling mauls.

 

[Tomikin]

Tahs coach and winger

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-...atahs-defence-coach-void-20200112-p53qqz.html

 

[TSR]

If Penney can successfully introduce a more intuitive style, I wonder if that will help bring out the best in Beale.

At his best he is very good with heads up rugby, has a good short passing game and is a good support runner.