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Waratahs 2018

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Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Cron has been very effective at SS level. No apparent reason why his ability should not be effective at Soup level. Let us hope so, anyway. I would love to see the Tahs playing with the cohesive and verve of the Shoremen.

I rate Cron highly, but isn't Gibson still running the show? . Or have I missed something?
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
History suggests that that is the hallmark of successful Waratah coaches. Gibson seems a nice guy but is hopelessly out of his depth.



Coaches? Plural? I can only remember one successful Tahs coach, but my memory is not all that wonderful. Enlighten me, please. Apart from Chubby, who else has won a few games?
 

MACCA

Ron Walden (29)
Don’t be surprised to see Kelly Meafua and Nick Palmer being more prominent than people expect.


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wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
For someone so old and wise, you seem to have a short memory. McKenzie took them to the super rugby final in 2005, semi-final in 2006 and the final again in 2008.



You will probably find that your memory shortens up as the years lengthen. Wisdom, however, is timeless.
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
Nothing official but its been suggested Cron is throwing his weight around

Good. While this is a significant step up for him I really like how Cron seems to be able to get his teams playing open, skillful Rugby that's always great to watch. With the added factor of actually winning while doing so. Seems to be able to get the best out of his squad. Which is what a good coach does.

As for Gibson. I'm sure he tries hard but the bloke's no head coach. At least not at this level.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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Good. While this is a significant step up for him I really like how Cron seems to be able to get his teams playing open, skillful Rugby that's always great to watch. With the added factor of actually winning while doing so. Seems to be able to get the best out of his squad. Which is what a good coach does.

As for Gibson. I'm sure he tries hard but the bloke's no head coach. At least not at this level.
From all accounts Gibson is/was a very good hands on coach, but struggled as standard hands off type head coach. So this season we see him doing hands on defensive stuff

We will see if it works

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WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
From all accounts Gibson is/was a very good hands on coach, but struggled as standard hands off type head coach. So this season we see him doing hands on defensive stuff

We will see if it works

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Being good at the hands on side of it screams the makings of a really good Assistant Coach as opposed to a Head Coach who needs to be more rounded. So, a move to focus more on that side of his skill set could prove fruitful. Hopefully.
 

Hawko

Tony Shaw (54)
Hanigan needs to put on more muscle and hopefully during the preseason he does.

What pre-season? He returned from the EOYT injured so he has to go into rehab and because he's a Wallaby he doesn't start training till the second week in January. That leaves about 5 weeks before he has to play. He needs at least a full three months to build the sort of bulk and power he needs, probably more.
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
What pre-season? He returned from the EOYT injured so he has to go into rehab and because he's a Wallaby he doesn't start training till the second week in January. That leaves about 5 weeks before he has to play. He needs at least a full three months to build the sort of bulk and power he needs, probably more.

If he was a New Zealander, he would be told to take the three months in the gym.



And we wonder why we lag behind the buggers.
 
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If he was a New Zealander, he would be told to take the three months in the gym.

And we wonder why we lag behind the buggers.

No, they wouldn’t..
Looking like Thor means nothing If you lack the necessary attributes developed through skills sessions, opposed training and match time..that’s why we lag behind the buggers, not because they spend months in the gym more then the aussies.
 

Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
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Coaches? Plural? I can only remember one successful Tahs coach, but my memory is not all that wonderful. Enlighten me, please. Apart from Chubby, who else has won a few games?
Macqueen didn't lose a game in 1991, a year which included tours of Argentina and New Zealand. Set the foundations for our RWC success.
 

Hawko

Tony Shaw (54)
No, they wouldn’t..
Looking like Thor means nothing If you lack the necessary attributes developed through skills sessions, opposed training and match time..that’s why we lag behind the buggers, not because they spend months in the gym more then the aussies.

This is not an either/or thing. You must have both the necessary attributes developed through skills sessions AND the required strength and power to carry them out. I would argue Hanigan has way more of the attributes than the strength and power. Its why Cheik selected him in the first place. Hanigan has to have both or he will end up as a bench player only, overtaken by Valetini and Naisirani. McCalman is a prime example - he has the skills but has failed to develop the strength and power to make him a first-choice Wallaby.
 
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