Waratahs 2016

[Jagman]

Commentators on 7Two game said there was a rumor that Matt Lucas would be at the Watatahs next year somehow.


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[AussieDominance]

^^^ That could be Jake Gordon (Uni)? - Halfback, Tomas Robertson (Uni)? - Prop, Harry Jones (Rats) - Wing.

Ned Hanigan (Randwick) #6 Notta, Cameron Orr (Pirates) LHP, Andrew Deegan (Randwick) #10 or #15.

Yep all correct.

 

[Seymour Butz]

Robertson, Sandell, Gordon signed on EPS deals. Hanigan, Deegan, C.Orr, H.Jones (Maybe one other I can't remember) on transition contracts.

What's the actual difference between an Extended Player Contract and a Transition Contract?

 

[AussieDominance]

EPS is actually part of the squad (a bit like a Rookie contract so less money than the top 30 guys) I think the Transition Contract is a program supported by the Waratahs (i.e not ARU bound). Correct me if I'm wrong though. Transition contract is a lower wage than an EPS obviously.

 

[Lee Grant]

What we need most of all is a good goal kicker.

A good left-footed kicker from hand would be handy also.


LHP Cameron Orr is a worthy mention - maybe not for next year but, my word, he has promise.
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[topgun]

What we need most of all is a good goal kicker.

A good left-footed kicker from hand would be handy also.


LHP Cameron Orr is a worthy mention - maybe not for next year but, my word, he has promise.
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And Volavola will pull on the red and black next year... buddy funny ting dat...

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Contracted:

Hooker:
- Tatafu Polota-Nau (2016)
- Hugh Roach (2016)

Prop:
- Benn Robinson (2016)
- Paddy Ryan (2016)
- Angus Ta'avao (New ex Blues)
- Tomas Robertson (Rookie in EPS)
- Cameron Orr (Rookie on Transition Contract)
- Matthew Sandell (Rookie in EPS)

Lock:
- Dave Dennis (2017)
- Dean Mumm (2016)
- Will Skelton (2017)

Backrow:
- Jed Holloway (2017)
- Jack Dempsey (2017)
- Michael Hooper (2018)
- Ned Hanigan (Rookie on Transition Contract)
- Brad Wilkin (2017)

Scrumhalf:
- Nick Phipps (2017)
- Jake Gordon (Rookie in EPS)

Flyhalf:
-Bernard Foley (2018)
- Andrew Deegan (Rookie on Transition Contract)

Centres
- Jim Stewart (2017)

Wing:
- Rob Horne (2017)
- Harry Jones (Rookie on Transition Contract)

Fullback:
Israel Folau (2018)


Confirmed Leaving:
Sekope Kepu (prop)
Jacques Potgieter (backrow)
Wycliff Palu (No 8)
Brendan McKibbon (scrumhalf)
Adam Ashley-Cooper (centre)
Jono Lance (utility back)
Peter Betham (wing)
Taqele Naiyaravoro (wing)
Ben Volavola (Utility back) to Crusaders

Status unknown:
Kurtley Beale
Jeremy Tilse
Matt Carraro
Mitch Chapman
Pat McCutcheon
Stephen Hoiles
Tala Gray
Tolu Latu
Sam Louisi
Michael Alaatoa
Andrew Kellaway
Auvasa Faleali'i
David Horwitz
Thierry Marcial Kounga (Dashville) Kuate
Kotaro Matsushima


Skelton confirmed a two year extension with the Tahs - until end 2017.
http://www.rugby.com.au/News/NewsAr...ing-star-Will-Skelton-for-two-more-years.aspx

Other old news:
Israel Folau signs to end of 2018.
http://www.rugby.com.au/wallabies/N...its-long-term-future-to-Australian-Rugby.aspx

Edit: Added Brad Wilkin (formerly of Aust 7's programme).

 

[Lindommer]

Status unknown:
Kurtley Beale keep
Jeremy Tilse time to move on
Matt Carraro keep
Mitch Chapman keep
Pat McCutcheon time to move on
Stephen Hoiles keep
Tala Gray move to the Rebels, son, you should be aiming for a lot more game time
Tolu Latu KEEP
Sam Louisi keep
Michael Ala'alatoa keep, and get more games
Andrew Kellaway keep
Auvasa Faleali'i keep, and get more games
David Horwitz dunno
Thierry Marcial Kounga (Dashville) Kuate ditto
Kotara Matsushima ditto

 

[Hugh Jarse]

According to Rugby Link Team Sheets, Kotaro Matsushima has only played 7 games for Beasts in the Shute Shield (Rounds 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 11 & 14) so far, and remains uncapped for the Tahs.

I would see him heading back to Japan next year to start with the Japanese <insert name> Super Rugby Franchise, along with some or all of Keita Inagaki, Michael Leitch, Fumiaki Tanaka, Hendrik Tui and Akihito Yamada, all of whom were aligned with a Super Rugby Franchise this season.

 

[HJ Nelson]

Contracted:

Backrow:
- Jed Holloway (2017)
- Jack Dempsey (2017)
- Michael Hooper (2018)
- Ned Hanigan (Rookie on Transition Contract)
- Brad Wilkin (2017)

 

[AussieDominance]

Status unknown:
Kurtley Beale keep
Jeremy Tilse time to move on
Matt Carraro keep
Mitch Chapman keep
Pat McCutcheon time to move on
Stephen Hoiles keep
Tala Gray move to the Rebels, son, you should be aiming for a lot more game time
Tolu Latu KEEP
Sam Louisi keep
Michael Ala'alatoa keep, and get more games
Andrew Kellaway keep
Auvasa Faleali'i keep, and get more games
David Horwitz dunno
Thierry Marcial Kounga (Dashville) Kuate ditto
Kotara Matsushima ditto

Pretty similar thoughts other than perhaps Faleali'i I would probably move him on just because he has barely played this season.

Horwitz I would keep as well.

Kuate and Matsushima I would move on.

Heard recently that Chapman was looking unlikely and Tilse had re signed for one more year.

Gray uncontracted.

As you know things do change though as they may not have desired players available to contract.

 

[Highlander35]

http://m.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/33547714

Taqele Naiyaravoro will join Glasgow Warriors following his international commitments, contrary to reports in the Australian media, his agent has stated.

"He's definitely coming to Glasgow to honour his commitments, at least for the first year," said Tyran Smith.

"He's been a little bit naive. I've heard all the reports and I've been in contact regularly with him clarifying."

 

[Jagman]

And at the same time there's this:
"Player contracts have now gone out, and Williams expects that the process will run right up to the early-August deadline. Key Waratahs from last season, Benn Robinson, Hugh Roach, and Taqele Naiyaravoro, are all expected back on board, while young skipper Jed Holloway re-signed with the Rams early last month."
http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/07/16/the-national-rugby-championship-coaches-part-1/


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[p.Tah]

There's a bit of a personal family thing - he's had another baby and his wife was finding it hard for personal reasons," Smith told BBC Scotland.

"She needed his support and moving away was a big decision, but he's honouring his first commitment, then we'll go from there.

"He's been a little bit naive. I've heard all the reports and I've been in contact regularly with him clarifying."

Why would you want a player who doesn't want to play for you?

What kind of agent refers to his client as naive in the media?

 

[Intruder]

Chapman is hanging up the boots

 

[Lindommer]

A shame, but not unexpected. Very good depth to have in the squad and an excellent lineout technician. Played an important part in the 2014 title.

Thank you, Mitch, well played.

 

[Joeleee]

Why would you want a player who doesn't want to play for you?

What kind of agent refers to his client as naive in the media?

I think most of these guys are pretty professional, and could still do a pretty good job, even if they don't 100% want to be there. It's still in their best interests to perform in order to increase their value on the next contract. I can believe there would be a drop in performance when they would rather be elsewhere, but I would say he would still be able to perform at 80-90% of his ability.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

What is the coaching structure for next season?

Gibson will be HC.
Malone has been announced as Kicking and Attack coach.

Ledesma has been Scrum Coach (or consultant).

Will he stay, go to the Wallabies, or to ARG Super team, and if so who will be doing the Forwards/Set piece Coaching?

Cam Blades from Aust U20's perhaps, if Mario departs?

 

[RugbyReg]

Why would you want a player who doesn't want to play for you?

What kind of agent refers to his client as naive in the media?

are there any good type of agents?

 

[I like to watch]

are there any good type of agents?

As a rule, no.
But some definitely add value.
I can easily name 1/2 dozen players that were only solid Shute Shield standard,earning good money in Europe on the back of their agents work.