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Waratahs 2013

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Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
There are also a lot of kids who only learn the one out running into contact from junior mungo coaches.

Junior Mungoball 101.
A dummy half learns to pass.
The runners learn to catch.
Someone learns to count to 5.
Someone learns to kick, when Someone has counted to 5.
 

James Buchanan

Trevor Allan (34)
The reality is that the best players don't do a lot of passing in the earlier ages of junior rugby.

Maybe we need more late bloomers who spent their junior rugby passing to others and only became a star player when they were a bit older.

Alternatively, we need more focus on skills coaching at an early stage rather than the path of least resistance to a win.
 

BPC

Phil Hardcastle (33)
There are also a lot of kids who only learn the one out running into contact from junior mungo coaches.

Junior Mungoball 101.
A dummy half learns to pass.
The runners learn to catch.
Someone learns to count to 5.
Someone learns to kick, when Someone has counted to 5.

Someone who can do both (c) and (d) on the field without using their fingers is branded an intellectual and considered somewhat effeminate.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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Someone who can do both (c) and (d) on the field without using their fingers is branded an intellectual and considered somewhat effeminate.

When too many loig players started mastering the art of counting to five, loig brought in the zero tackle which only exists in certain situations just to make sure most players remained in a permanent state of confusion and befuddlement.
 

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Andrew Slack (58)
The reality is that the best players don't do a lot of passing in the earlier ages of junior rugby.

The rest of the team generally works on the principle of passing the ball to that player and then that player runs around and through the opposition to score a try.

Maybe we need more late bloomers who spent their junior rugby passing to others and only became a star player when they were a bit older.

In order to pass it to the best player, they need to be able to pass. By U10s, kids definitely have game awareness - even if the central aim of boys is still to score themselves (I find girls become more team orientated earlier - no real surprise there).

Passing is all mechanics. We had a lot of success improving the ball skills of our senior club last year through constant, repitive passing - paying strict attention to proper technique.

At the other end of the scale, my daughters touch team have been working on ball skills since U8s. They used to get belted then because they were all passing, but not running on to the ball or going forward. Now (in U10s) they are winning lots of games comfortably, partly because most of them now pass to space. They are also starting to run at holes & draw pass.

Kids can do a lot more than we give them credit for sometimes. How often have you seen pictures of Tiger Woods hitting golf shots with great technique when he was 3-4.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
^^^ & that is why out best coaching effort should be directed towards coaching the coaches who will be working in junior clubland (and then monitoring the effectiveness of that coaching).

Coaches who focus on skills development rather than winning at all costs are few and far between. Most start out with the right philosophy but seem to be seduced by competitive parents and club officials, reinforced by competition tables.
 
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tranquility

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Im sure he is an great prospect, but god he was bad the U20s a few years back. God awful.
 

rugbysmartarse

Alan Cameron (40)
There are also a lot of kids who only learn the one out running into contact from junior mungo coaches.

Junior Mungoball 101.
A dummy half learns to pass.
The runners learn to catch.
Someone learns to count to 5.
Someone learns to kick, when Someone has counted to 5.
seeing as no player was cabable of (c) above, they make the ref tell the players when to kick
 

Hawko

Tony Shaw (54)
Ben Volavola 5th EPS squad member

I guess that means the final full contract should be a backrower

Volavola was playing 15 for Southern, I think, but I would assume that with the surfeit of wingers and fullbacks they might have bought him to bolster 12? This decision has a touch of the "Robbie Deans" - picking players not for the position required.
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
i would imaagine its in a general utility role as he is a more than handy flyhalf. He also has a a fair bit of growing left in his body as he looks like a 12 year old still

There's still lot of development both physically and game play wise in Volavola so I actually think that this is a good pick up for the next few seasons.
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
EPS contracts are only one year agreements. It will be interesting to see his development this year.

Forgot that. However, if he takes the experience on board and really applies himself he could ensure a spot for the next few seasons. There's a lot to like about him in my opinion.
 

spectator

Bob Davidson (42)
So what is the full roster for the 2013 Waratahs? If it's already been quoted would someone let me know the page on which it was quoted and I can look it up.
 

Badger

Bill McLean (32)
The Blues announced today that they will be playing the Tahs in a pre-season game in Whangarei on February 9, 2013.

So the Tahs pre-season looks like this:

2 February vs Rebels @ Hobart
9 February vs Blues @ Whangarei
14 February vs Crusaders @ SFS

So what is the full roster for the 2013 Waratahs? If it's already been quoted would someone let me know the page on which it was quoted and I can look it up.

There are listings of the roster in this thread. Not sure how up to date they are. The Waratahs webiste looks like it has the current roster (IIRR, one spot to fill).

http://www.waratahs.com.au/Waratahs/Team/SuperRugbySquad.aspx
 

p.Tah

John Thornett (49)
There are listings of the roster in this thread. Not sure how up to date they are. The Waratahs webiste looks like it has the current roster (IIRR, one spot to fill).
I believe ACC and Drew have been kicked out of the squad by the other players in the squad because of their Kings of Siam Twitter photos. Guys what's up with those photos?
 
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