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Wallaby 31 players for 2015 RWC

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About JOC (James O'Connor), I'm not sure about him at the starting XV. He still didn't show a great performance this year to secure his place at the starting XV.

He's had all of 2 games? At flyhalf? Behind a thoroughly beaten pack and team. What I have seen from O'Connor this year is his thirst for the burst. He was the best (along with Savea) winger in the world when he left, and IMO nothing has changed.

To use your extension of "great performance this year" regarding starting XV's, not one single Red would make the Wallabies squad of 30 bar Genia, and he'd be in a suit on gameday.
 

Marcelo

Ken Catchpole (46)
He's had all of 2 games? At flyhalf? Behind a thoroughly beaten pack and team. What I have seen from O'Connor this year is his thirst for the burst. He was the best (along with Savea) winger in the world when he left, and IMO nothing has changed.

To use your extension of "great performance this year" regarding starting XV's, not one single Red would make the Wallabies squad of 30 bar Genia, and he'd be in a suit on gameday.

Yeah, you are right. The team would be the Brum-Wallabies ATM with some reinforcements from Tahs, Rebels and Force :(

I have just afraid of a Brumbies player, Ben Alexander :p No matter how many good games at Super Rugby level he plays, I don't want him on the team.
 

Tomikin

David Codey (61)
You'd be a ballsy man to bet against Horwill being in the World Cup squad. Not that I think he's playing that well, there are a few other young guys who are in better form, but form really is only part of the puzzle. We're just so horribly short on experience in that department and we have no other locks that are as solid in the set piece as Horwill is.

I agree with Braveheart, I thought his performance on the weekend was pretty decent, he really played with some heart. He's by no means impressing me, but unless a rookie test lock has a major standout performance in the Rugby Championship, I suspect Horwill's experience and solid fundamentals will get him on the plane.

Except Simmions who has 50 caps and better at all set piece and probably works harder, he just can't grow a beard... Seriously he hasn't played well in a while. And to be honest his passions great but all last year and seems this year his attitude stinks..
 

Tomikin

David Codey (61)
You're exaggerating more than a little Tip. He does lean forward when he's standing waiting to move up which probably looks like offside from a number of angles. BUT even if that is as true as you seem to think it was.SO WERE MOST OF THE BRUMBIES TIGHT 5!

I was sitting at half way and it was doing my bloody head in.

Yet the Brumbies are the least penalised team in the comp....
 

Scrubber2050

Mark Ella (57)
Hoe will is one of the most experienced players running around.

Technique should be right by now FFS

He just seems over it. - his edge is gone. Mentally he is in England.
 

Bairdy

Peter Fenwicke (45)
Put him out to pasture already. He needs to be sent off to England on the next livestock carrier out of QLD.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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He's had all of 2 games? At flyhalf? Behind a thoroughly beaten pack and team. What I have seen from O'Connor this year is his thirst for the burst. He was the best (along with Savea) winger in the world when he left, and IMO nothing has changed.

To use your extension of "great performance this year" regarding starting XV's, not one single Red would make the Wallabies squad of 30 bar Genia, and he'd be in a suit on gameday.

Let me put it this way, on current form JOC (James O'Connor) doesn't deserve a spot, but I think he is still busted and has been playing because of the rest of the injuries.

Hopefully the week off and more troops returning will allow him to play his correct role which isn't leading an attack, but poaching

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fatprop

George Gregan (70)
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It is a bit early to be running a thumb over propping skills, let us see how they all go against the foreign sides. The Aus derby games are never the proper test.

Let's see how they all go against the Stormers, sharks and saders et al before making real judgement s

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chasmac

Alex Ross (28)
If the Reds cannot improve due to poor coaching, does it mean that they have lost their ability to play good rugby?
Surely Slipper who was a whisker off being awarded player of the year last year, hasn't forgotten how to play.
When considering a Wallabies squad, should we make allowance for the poor provincial setup that the players are representing?
 

Viking

Mark Ella (57)
Let me put it this way, on current form JOC (James O'Connor) doesn't deserve a spot, but I think he is still busted and has been playing because of the rest of the injuries.


I agree. But I think for a player of JOC (James O'Connor)'s standard, where he has demonstrated a very high quality and consistent form at Test level (on the wing), Unlike players trying to break into the squad, a few good games can get him back in contention quickly. So I wouldn't write him off this soon.

If he gets close to the form he was in at the last RWC he should be first choice wing.
 

BDA

Jim Lenehan (48)
Yeh, unless JOC (James O'Connor) doesn't play a good game all season, I wouldn't leave him out of the squad. He's been consistently good at test level, is extremely versatile and is arguably as good, or better than our other wing options. Plus he offers a point of difference to other wing options. Neither Cummins nor Speight have strong kicking games (nor Horne for that matter). His inclusion in the back three would be necessary to get the right balance.
 

The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
If JOC (James O'Connor) has an even half way reasonable season he'll be in the squad. The bloke can play, no doubt about it. My gripe has been with his attitude and the fact that at pivot he doesn't bring other players into the game enough. Stick him in the back three though and all of a sudden he becomes a weapon.
 
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Moono75

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As much as it's great to discuss Wallabies teams selections...they are done for the WC. Too unsettled with selections, too little continuity playing together as a team, the scrum, coaching changes. They have run out of time for the WC.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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As much as it's great to discuss Wallabies teams selections.they are done for the WC. Too unsettled with selections, too little continuity playing together as a team, the scrum, coaching changes. They have run out of time for the WC.

We should just stay home and start working towards 2019.

Maybe send a mix of the Under 20s team and no one over the age of 25.

o_O
 
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Moono75

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We should just stay home and start working towards 2019.

Maybe send a mix of the Under 20s team and no one over the age of 25.

o_O

No....gotta be in it to win it. Just don't expect to win it.

Australian rugby has been spinning its wheels for too many years now. Hope I'm wrong :(. We may get lucky and become the perfect storm with everything gelling together for the tournament but I just can't see it.
 

Scrubber2050

Mark Ella (57)
Now I see sio is looking at NFL at some time in the future.

That'll help his chances in the minds of the ARU.

Sometimes blokes should be a little more private in their thoughts. It may be in their own interests
 

Dumbledore

Dick Tooth (41)
Wtf would Sio be in the NFL? The only position I can think he'd remotely fit would be fullback, and there's not too many teams who carry one of them.

Actually, just read that article. He basically says he thinks NFL is cool and if the opportunity he came up he'd probably think about it. Absolute non-issue.
 

BDA

Jim Lenehan (48)
I read this morning the articles regarding SARU resting players this season. I'd like to hear people's thought on whether we should be resting players either during the season or during the Rugby Championship.

I think you need to look at each player separately and work out what's best for them and how important are they to our WC campaign.

One player that is extremely important to our campaign is Simmons, so I think the fact that he has sat out the first 6 rounds will be good in the long run.

Stephen Moore is another important player who played very little rugby last year and has had a relatively light work load so far this season.

Palu's a player that need to manage his workload, but his regular injuries seem to take care of that.

The players that spring to mind as perhaps requiring some rest at some point would be:

- Fardy
- Kepu
- Slipper
- TPN
- Hooper
- To'omua
- Kuridrani
- Folau

The above players are all crucial to our WC hopes and we want them as fresh as possible for the tournament.

I'd like to see Fardy and Kepu rested for at least a few games this season, but with both the Tahs and the Brumbies most likely challenging for the title, that's probably unlikely. You could rest both perhaps against Argentina
 

Marcelo

Ken Catchpole (46)
I read this morning the articles regarding SARU resting players this season. I'd like to hear people's thought on whether we should be resting players either during the season or during the Rugby Championship.

I think you need to look at each player separately and work out what's best for them and how important are they to our WC campaign.

One player that is extremely important to our campaign is Simmons, so I think the fact that he has sat out the first 6 rounds will be good in the long run.

Stephen Moore is another important player who played very little rugby last year and has had a relatively light work load so far this season.

Palu's a player that need to manage his workload, but his regular injuries seem to take care of that.

The players that spring to mind as perhaps requiring some rest at some point would be:

- Fardy
- Kepu
- Slipper
- TPN
- Hooper
- To'omua
- Kuridrani
- Folau

The above players are all crucial to our WC hopes and we want them as fresh as possible for the tournament.

I'd like to see Fardy and Kepu rested for at least a few games this season, but with both the Tahs and the Brumbies most likely challenging for the title, that's probably unlikely. You could rest both perhaps against Argentina

You are right but someone from the ARU is thinking about this?
 
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