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Phil Hardcastle (33)
Agree that they would have but I really doubt they would have even attempted to score in that situation. There's an almost guaranteed win if you take the points. If we were trailing by more than 3 then sure.
Wallabies v Wales Game 2 Sat 13 July Melbourne
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Mark Ella (57)
Completely disagree. We’ll never beat the top teams until we have composure under pressure. In a situation like that you work to win a penalty - which we won. Tom Wright then put it on the line by taking an unnecessary risk.
Yes - it wasn’t his fault the try got blown, and it all ended well - but it was still a dumb play.
Was Lolesio’s pass a good one because we scored at the other end? The follow up events don’t change the original act.
Edit: if we are going to go down the paths of ‘what would the best teams do’ I don’t believe for a second anyone from the ABs, Boks, England or Ireland would have tapped if.
Yes - it wasn’t his fault the try got blown, and it all ended well - but it was still a dumb play.
Was Lolesio’s pass a good one because we scored at the other end? The follow up events don’t change the original act.
Edit: if we are going to go down the paths of ‘what would the best teams do’ I don’t believe for a second anyone from the ABs, Boks, England or Ireland would have tapped if.
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Nev Cottrell (35)
Congrats Wallabies fans.
Take the test wing and keep building.
Haven't read through the thread yet but I really enjoy watching Flook play. I think he could be your 13 long term.
Good for Cale to get more exposure to test footy but I think Wright 6 (when fit) Valetini 8 worked better.
Didn't think the crowd was too bad considering the weather, lack of promotion, lack of marquee opposition and the Rebels drama. Helps when the empty seats aren't constantly exposed by the set camera
What a turnaround in fortune for Jake Gordon and Daugunu finally playing to his potential having cut out his errors and not trying to do too much.
Wales went better than I thought they would too.
Was a good watch.
Take the test wing and keep building.
Haven't read through the thread yet but I really enjoy watching Flook play. I think he could be your 13 long term.
Good for Cale to get more exposure to test footy but I think Wright 6 (when fit) Valetini 8 worked better.
Didn't think the crowd was too bad considering the weather, lack of promotion, lack of marquee opposition and the Rebels drama. Helps when the empty seats aren't constantly exposed by the set camera
What a turnaround in fortune for Jake Gordon and Daugunu finally playing to his potential having cut out his errors and not trying to do too much.
Wales went better than I thought they would too.
Was a good watch.
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Tim Horan (67)
A try would have taken the score board to being ahead by two scores - compared to being two scores in front from the original kickable penalty. Sure if the try was converted it goes past the two score scenario and a try + conversion winds down the clock.
It was not however the smart call.
It was not however the smart call.
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Greg Davis (50)
Normally I give Wright crap for how he plays, but, I would say whatever composure you're wanting the team to play for is energy better directed at being composed in defence and not giving away penalties and also spent defending mauls.
Whatever points Tom's attempt could have/did cost us is nothing compared to the 14 points we lost at the mauls.
Whatever points Tom's attempt could have/did cost us is nothing compared to the 14 points we lost at the mauls.
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Steve Williams (59)
Just happy we live in a world where we have guys like Tom Wright trying plays like that.
World Cup final it might be a different story, but I'll take the entertainment value in the last 5 minutes of a July test thanks
World Cup final it might be a different story, but I'll take the entertainment value in the last 5 minutes of a July test thanks
Strewthcobber
Steve Williams (59)
All the words wasted here on the 10, on the backrow and the back 3 does a feel a bit silly with the complete incompetence maul defence doesn't it
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
Mostly bollocks and ad hom crap. Sending a pass like that within 5m of our line was an act of 70/30 with a 30% chance of success. Throw one like that with the Barretts and Reece/Taslia boring down on you and it is a try or driven over your own line.
I am interested in your rugby playing history now that you have had a go at mine. You don't seem too clued up on how a 15 plays from any era.
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Peter Fenwicke (45)
True 'glasses need cleaning'. I am more of the same thought after last night, I have nothing against him as a winger but as an international 15 no thanks I want more than just entering the line, I want clean takes and safe kicks out with counter-attacking at the right time. I don't have data to support it but I don't trust his defence.
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Watty Friend (18)
I think my playing history is irrelevant when multiple posters agree that throwing that pass was actually the percentage play in the circumstances. I do know two ex Wallaby coaches who agree with me though, I'll tell you who they are later.
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John Eales (66)
Well we’re all waiting on your insights.
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Peter Sullivan (51)
I was pretty happy with LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto), I had no issue with him getting the yellow card either, it was not a blatant or deliberate attempt to shoulder a player in the head and was just a football play a few inches off its target.
I did have a big issue with him throwing a player to the ground unnecessarily after having been given a yellow earlier in the game. I thought he was lucky to get away with this without consequences that would make his team suffer just because he could not control himself. It was not a mature play for someone who has been around for a while.
I did have a big issue with him throwing a player to the ground unnecessarily after having been given a yellow earlier in the game. I thought he was lucky to get away with this without consequences that would make his team suffer just because he could not control himself. It was not a mature play for someone who has been around for a while.
What insights?
On second thought I will have a go. A brand new coaching team with an inexperienced side and a short time together are always going to use a conservative game plan.
That means booting the ball from nine most of the time and if not then you boot it from ten. Once it started raining in Melbourne, they would have doubled down on that plan. Lolesio and Paisami would have been told to kick first, truck it up second and pass as a last resort.
That's exactly what we saw. What you geniuses see as a problem is players doing as they were told and replacing a outside back with one you like better is going to make fuck all difference.
There is a reason our attack looks clunky and that is there hasn't been anough time to do anything but the basic patterns.
It's been three weeks for fucks sakes.
Yoda
Syd Malcolm (24)
Stick to flying planes!
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Were he still around, Aaron Smith would have tapped and run every day of the week.
