Wallabies v Springboks - Suncorp, Brisbane, 10th September 2016

[TOCC]

Yeah, you've always offered a pointed but balanced argument, that wasn't directed at you.


That's true. 6/8 is where it really stands out at the moment, there isn't really anyone uncapped who's knocking at the door for test selection. I'm not sure it's totally because of the 'intruders', but they don't help. Also to blame is letting players like Mowen go at their prime. At least there are a couple of viable options in the pipeline at halfback.

Yes and I don't want to blame the marquee players either because I think the ultimate balance of their contribution is a positive one for Australian rugby, but it needs to be managed better by the ARU, the short term and long term implications for the wallabies need to be a major factor.. make it a simple '1 marquee per position' rule across the Australian super rugby teams with a first in, best dressed rule.

That is, a team can't sign a foreigner in a position if another club already has one signed in that position..

 

[TOCC]

Reports that the Suncorp crowd will be lucky to crack 35'000

 

[A mutterer]

Photos from todays Captain's run (Wallabies)

Flickr (my 100th Album) or Facebook

that looks like a better sook face than berrick's sook face!

 

[Highlander35]

Yes and I don't want to blame the marquee players either because I think the ultimate balance of their contribution is a positive one for Australian rugby, but it needs to be managed better by the ARU, the short term and long term implications for the wallabies need to be a major factor.. make it a simple '1 marquee per position' rule across the Australian super rugby teams with a first in, best dressed rule.

That is, a team can't sign a foreigner in a position if another club already has one signed in that position..

How tight are you controlling that though?

Is it one prop, or one loosehead and one tighthead? One lock or two? Are a Blindside and a Number 8 a different player, and is a blindside? Is Potgieter declared a Blindside, and that means he's not allowed to play in the second row if Steve Mafi is the nominated Lock for the Force. Do all NAQs count or just capped 7s/Full Internationals/A Internationals. Does first come first served mean that the Rebels have to rush through re-signing Amanaki Mafi to make sure the Tahs don't sign Victor Vito? Or can the Rebels delay and delay and delay, Vito is fed up and signs in Europe after a Japanese stint, and then Mafi doesn't sign an extension?

Your point is valid. Lots of finicky things to work out though, particularly since by my count, there can be 12 full internationals (7 of any plus 5 Japanese).

 

[Lee Grant]

Where is the present day Rob Egerton?

Teaching at Newington, where he is 1st XV coach.
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[Rugbynutter39]

Yes Godwin in NRC has shown nothing to warrant being in the test mix. Hopefully at the Brumbies he rediscovers the form in the early years that had him tagged as an exciting young prospect.

Now a mid 20 something journey man.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

Has Hodge got speed? As would like to get back to having wingers that are genuine finisher with pace to burn. As call me simple but I thought that use to be the key pre-requisite for a quality winger.

 

[KOB1987]

How tight are you controlling that though?

Is it one prop, or one loosehead and one tighthead? One lock or two? Are a Blindside and a Number 8 a different player, and is a blindside? Is Potgieter declared a Blindside, and that means he's not allowed to play in the second row if Steve Mafi is the nominated Lock for the Force. Do all NAQs count or just capped 7s/Full Internationals/A Internationals. Does first come first served mean that the Rebels have to rush through re-signing Amanaki Mafi to make sure the Tahs don't sign Victor Vito? Or can the Rebels delay and delay and delay, Vito is fed up and signs in Europe after a Japanese stint, and then Mafi doesn't sign an extension?

Your point is valid. Lots of finicky things to work out though, particularly since by my count, there can be 12 full internationals (7 of any plus 5 Japanese).

After I read TOCCs post and before I read yours I was thinking the same thing. Take Kaino for example, just say he hangs up the test boots and signs as a marquee with the rebels. He could be 4,5,6 or 8. Or the French version of Reece hodge, what position do you call him?

I think TOCC is right in principle though, the ARU could ensure there is only only Kaino type marquee running around, etc. Maybe additional to that there needs to be some onus on the buying franchise to show that they don't have development player capable of filling the role?

Anyway we digress.....it's game day!

 

[Dave Beat]

My bar tender (24yo) played rugger with him at Manly. By all accounts a great bloke well respected and his mates are pretty excited for this weekend.

I dont think he's locked to 12. Wing is fine. Mostly I just love his long distance goal kicking. Didnt look out of place at all.

Dru - trying to drop you a PM but cant?

 

[Dave Beat]

Has Hodge got speed? As would like to get back to having wingers that are genuine finisher with pace to burn. As call me simple but I thought that use to be the key pre-requisite for a quality winger.

His team mate from last year Alex Northam had that, and some. Alex is a player we should be getting back into Soup rugby.

 

[USARugger]

Don't the Irish do something pretty similar to the above suggestions? Although, it did just blow up in their face a bit with the Pieenar/Ulster situation..

 

[Dan54]

Reports that the Suncorp crowd will be lucky to crack 35'000

That doesn't surprise me, I a kiwi and I going (I know a rugby tragic), but virtually none of my Aussie mates that are always at tests etc are going. I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't top 30,000

 

[kiap]

And was 43k at the ground for the local club game last night.

 

[RugbyReg]

Reports that the Suncorp crowd will be lucky to crack 35'000

it has so much going against it:

- Boks a traditional poor crowd drawer
- 2nd test of the year
- poor Wallaby performances
- poor QLD rugby environment
- last round of GPS rugby meaning focus is elsewhere.
- big storms expected this arvo
- big NRL game here last night.

Oh and basically no ARU marketing of the event

 

[kiap]

Be handy if the lads can jag a win then

 

[kiap]

It is forecast to be mostly clear of earlier rain by the evening (for whatever that's worth).

I'm picking a Wallabies win.

 

[KOB1987]

^^^^ someone said it was going to be windy too. 11kmh is nigh on nothing.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

Yes I liked the look of Alex Northam when saw him play in NRC as yes had speed to burn.

Pity he could not crack a Super Rugby development spot as he looked like he had some great potential.

 

[Quick Hands]

Yes Godwin in NRC has shown nothing to warrant being in the test mix. Hopefully at the Brumbies he rediscovers the form in the early years that had him tagged as an exciting young prospect.

Now a mid 20 something journey man.

Amazing what a couple of years being coached by Michael Foley can do.

 

[TOCC]

And was 43k at the ground for the local club game last night.

NRL finals are now considered local club matches?