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Wallabies v Springboks Saturday 9th Sept NIB Stadium

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KOB1987

John Eales (66)
Steven Moore rules himself OUT due to wife's childbirth!

The entire continent of Australasia rejoices in Steven's seed choices.

'Rejoices' is probably a bit harsh on a 100+ capped Wallaby captain, he's been a valuable servant to the game in this country and yes his time is up.

'Reluctantly accepts his decision to spend time with his family and contemplate his future' is a better way to put it.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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Looks like Latu in for Moore is the only change. Naivalu and Ainsley must still be crocked.
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Derpus

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Latu has joined the squad. I reckon if he has a good NRC game he'll play.

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And so he should. Despite being physiologically perfect to pilfer ball, he should refrain from ever attempting it because refs seem to ping him for no reason when he tries.
 

joeyjohnz

Sydney Middleton (9)
'Rejoices' is probably a bit harsh on a 100+ capped Wallaby captain, he's been a valuable servant to the game in this country and yes his time is up.

'Reluctantly accepts his decision to spend time with his family and contemplate his future' is a better way to put it.

Firstly, he's already contemplated his future. He's stood down from captaincy and will retire from internationals at the end of the year.

Secondly, I made a joke in rhyme. This forum has strange double standards when it comes to players, jokes and who's fair game or not.

Lighten up a bit mate and smell the roses, "If you lose the power to laugh, you lose the power to think".

Thirdly, rejoices is very apt description for those who follow the Wallabies and it's players form (or lack thereof) as Moore is one of "Cheika's Pets" who he has proven incapable of dropping regardless of form, performance or future ability. We now have one less selection quandary that we'll be scratching our heads over.
 

Joe Blow

John Hipwell (52)
I guess we are going with the same back row?
Good to see Latu included.
Was that the last time we will see Moore in a squad?
The fringe players have a chance to impress in the NRC.
 

Warpath

Billy Sheehan (19)
Pretty much the lineup I've been banging on about since before game 1.
Except with naivalu in for DHP when he's recovered and hodge at FB rather than the bench.
Who's your 15?

Hodge or DHP, if Hodge is chosen at 15 then DHP at 11, if DHP is chosen at 15 then speight at 11 (till naivalu is fit), Hodge isn't rapid, either Hodge starts at fullback or stays on the bench, I don't see him as a wing
 

Joe Blow

John Hipwell (52)
Backs will be unchanged except maybe Speights wing, but I suspect he has done enough to be retained at least until Naivalu is available.
Please let DHP kick for touch from penalties/free kicks?
Does Kerevi come onto the bench?
 

Ulrich

Nev Cottrell (35)
There is something brewing leading into this game but I can’t put my finger on it. I suspect we will see a spectacle, however; I do not believe the result – whichever way it goes – will determine either team’s season. It will serve us a modicum of where the Wallabies and Springboks are heading, even if neither are where they intend to be just yet.

I believe the combativeness of the Wallabies will be determined by how Cheika manages to rile his troops for a second successive week. There appears to be motivation to play in honour of the Force and what they mean to Australian rugby.

There’s great unpredictability as to what to expect from the Wallabies for me, I’m not sure which team is going to pitch and that makes this a dangerous game for the Boks.

There has been a lot of talk about the packs and the Springboks’ outside backs being brittle. Whoever can muster ascendancy in the physical exchanges will determine how much of a liability the back-three turns out to be for the Boks.

At the same time there’s an air of astute calmness and dedication to the cause from the Springboks this season which I don’t recall perceiving for a long time. They are inexperienced; they are going about their way, strengthening a faltering foundation left from last year’s catastrophic and stormy disaster and seemingly circling the wagons into a laager to defy the naysayers.

I don't think they are playing to defy anyone, it's just a consequence of their actions. Coincidentally I feel the Wallabies are trying to shut up their critics more than anything else and that is something stemming from the pressure upon the leadership and how they deal with it.

The Boks are rebuilding and I don’t think they are going over to Australasia to lose, but I think they know well within themselves that they are striving for a goal for the greater cause over the long-term.

Consistency in selection and performance has been key – long may that continue.

And good luck to both teams.
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
I was thinking more of a demented duck. The front on view shows an interesting gait! I was surprised how quick he was, but he has a very long stride which helps.


Camels are pretty quick, apparently they can reach speeds of 65 kmh, and can maintain a speed of 40 kmh for an hour.
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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Camels are pretty quick, apparently they can reach speeds of 65 kmh, and can maintain a speed of 40 kmh for an hour.

I was looking more at the style, not the physics! His feet are almost sideways when he runs, looking front-on. It's quite odd, but obviously works for him.
 

Up the Guts

Steve Williams (59)
I was thinking more of a demented duck. The front on view shows an interesting gait! I was surprised how quick he was, but he has a very long stride which helps.

He's got quite a pronounced hummock in his back which reminded me of a camel. Nevertheless he certainly covers the turf quick enough to play as a winger should we ever need him--those two that he gassed weren't slow by any means.
 

Warpath

Billy Sheehan (19)
lol but then he got tired soon after .that was the fastest he ran in a while ..he might have Lote Tuqiri speed but the Wobblies need Wendell Sailor which speight and naivalu can provide, koroibete is more rod davies meets digby ioane.
 

Scrubber2050

Mark Ella (57)
Latu's only point of difference (IMO) is his work over the ball, Trouble is that he leaches penalties like no-one else.

I don't rate the other aspects of his game highly.

With TPN getting on in age and Moore now past it the number 2 spot is up for grabs for somebody - and I don't reckon Latu is the answer.
 

Jagman

Trevor Allan (34)
Latu's only point of difference (IMO) is his work over the ball, Trouble is that he leaches penalties like no-one else.

I don't rate the other aspects of his game highly.

With TPN getting on in age and Moore now past it the number 2 spot is up for grabs for somebody - and I don't reckon Latu is the answer.
Latu has incredible handling skills. I think he played fly half for most his childhood. There was an incredible shot last year of one of his try assists where he passed the ball in full dive. Tried to google it but didn't cone up.

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Highlander35

Steve Williams (59)
I think he played fly half for most his childhood.

About 1 in every 5 Aussie Pros seem to have that said about them, and I don't think it's as good a thing as it seems to suggest at first glance.

In particular: it seems to be that "the best player" just gets played there before they break into Schools First XV or U16s, and is allowed/encouraged/given the opportunity to do everything themselves.

Not a specific slight against Latu by any means, but when you look at the quality of Australian Fly Halves being churned out, something's definitely going wrong if so many "played 10" in juniors.
 

Jagman

Trevor Allan (34)
About 1 in every 5 Aussie Pros seem to have that said about them, and I don't think it's as good a thing as it seems to suggest at first glance.

In particular: it seems to be that "the best player" just gets played there before they break into Schools First XV or U16s, and is allowed/encouraged/given the opportunity to do everything themselves.

Not a specific slight against Latu by any means, but when you look at the quality of Australian Fly Halves being churned out, something's definitely going wrong if so many "played 10" in juniors.
That's true but Latu has the skills definitely compared to your average Aus test frontrower. Was on full display in the NRC last year. Not so much at the Tahs

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Scrubber2050

Mark Ella (57)
We will see if he has the skills to stay on his feet. Got a heap of turnovers in Super rugby but then the Referees really seemed to ping him big time, basically negating the good work he was doing (in getting the turnovers)
 
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