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Wallabies v Fiji, Sunday, 6 July, 1:30pm @ McDonald Jones Stadium, Newcastle

molman

molman

John Thornett (49)
Khun Phil said:
I couldn't believe them continually showing the angle which did make it look like a forward pass and only a couple of times showing the ball coming backwards out of the hands.As you say,if it has to be looked at that closely then surely we just rely on the refs call.
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Issue was that it wasn't clearly backwards out of the hands even when you look at the other camera angles. As @Strewthcobber said, it was a lineball decision that could have gone either way. I personally think they got it technically right, but it is so close that it's hard to say it's beyond doubt to disallow a try.

I'm hoping its a connection issue between Potter and Wright as it wasn't a very clean pass either way. Almost a bit of hospital pass if you watch the balls flight.
 
molman

molman

John Thornett (49)
Generally I'd prefer the benefit given to the attacking team who scored. Especially in examples like this where it's not the virtue of the pass being marginally forward or not that is having any real bearing on weather the try is scored or not.
 
Sully

Sully

Tim Horan (67)
Staff member
I don't know what the lines in those photos are supposed to prove but, that was a forward pass all day. It was forward from the hands and it stayed forward. I called it live before the try was scored and nothing I've seen has changed my mind.
 
Brumby Runner

Brumby Runner

Jason Little (69)
molman said:
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Issue was that it wasn't clearly backwards out of the hands even when you look at the other camera angles. As @Strewthcobber said, it was a lineball decision that could have gone either way. I personally think they got it technically right, but it is so close that it's hard to say it's beyond doubt to disallow a try.

I'm hoping its a connection issue between Potter and Wright as it wasn't a very clean pass either way. Almost a bit of hospital pass if you watch the balls flight.
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No. The real issue is that the match officials must have clear evidence that the ball has been thrown or lost forward. It simply does not have to be thrown backwards and if a distinct throw forward can't be established then it is play on. I believe the Laws reference a throw forward and there is no mention of a forward pass. In this particular instance the on field referee's initial decision to play on together with the multiple replays are good indicators that the evidence of a clear throw forward was extremely doubtful.
 
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Linerunner2023

Ted Thorn (20)
The two passes Wright threw forward were about as flat as Finn Russell passes the ball every time during the game
Multiple times he is a fine line between flat or forward
 
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notdeadyet

Allen Oxlade (6)
methinks it is too close to call
IF wright was stationary when he threw the ball then definitely forward, however, he was still moving as hadn't been contacted by the defender,
 
Brumby Runner

Brumby Runner

Jason Little (69)
As well as having the most carry metres and the most post contact metres in the whole Super Rugby 25, Wright also tellingly had the third most try assists and the most by a player not a No 9. Quite a few of those assists were down the RHS with Muirhead the beneficiary and that doesn't include the myriad times he put Muirhead and others into break that didn't result in a try. Still posters like you say with all the authority of no one that he cannot pass left to right, or that he passes like a degenerate. What utter bullshit.

Haters will hate despite the facts. Maybe it would be more productive to consider where Lancaster was positioning himself in support in the Fiji test match. Compare that with where Muirhead et al in the Brumbies position themselves when supporting one of the most dangerous attacking players in this country.
 
Wilson

Wilson

Tim Horan (67)
Lancaster definitely didn't make himself a useful target for Wright, positioning himself on his couch in Sydney to watch the test ;)

But I do agree that the issues with Wright's forward passes are more down to the connection between him and Potter, particularly the first one. This will come with time though, and that's part of the reason I was happy to see them play a bit more rugby than is necessarily sensible in a test match against Fiji on the weekend.
 
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Backintheolddays

Syd Malcolm (24)
Brumby Runner said:
As well as having the most carry metres and the most post contact metres in the whole Super Rugby 25, Wright also tellingly had the third most try assists and the most by a player not a No 9. Quite a few of those assists were down the RHS with Muirhead the beneficiary and that doesn't include the myriad times he put Muirhead and others into break that didn't result in a try. Still posters like you say with all the authority of no one that he cannot pass left to right, or that he passes like a degenerate. What utter bullshit.

Haters will hate despite the facts. Maybe it would be more productive to consider where Lancaster was positioning himself in support in the Fiji test match. Compare that with where Muirhead et al in the Brumbies position themselves when supporting one of the most dangerous attacking players in this country.
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Wright is our best option hands down in Australia, no argument from me. However he is far from world class and the criticism has merit.
 
Ignoto

Ignoto

John Hipwell (52)
Brumby Runner said:
Still posters like you say with all the authority of no one that he cannot pass left to right, or that he passes like a degenerate. What utter bullshit
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What's the point of having all these line breaking attributes if he wastes the opportunity.

No-one is doubting his running game but we saw twice in 80 minutes that he blew two tries. The spin you're trying here is up with Donald Trump.

No-idea why you cant take legitimate critiscm of one of your prince's BR.
 
Ignoto

Ignoto

John Hipwell (52)
Slim 293 said:
To be fair to BR, it wasn't really "legitimate" criticism he was responding to...
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We bitch and moan about professionals not doing the basics well and here we 10-14 points go missing because Wright did not do a core competency of his job well.

Had we not scored that try at the end Wright would have come under more scrutiny.

Imagine if he did the same thing in three weeks in a tied series ultimately costing us the series win.
 
Slim 293

Slim 293

George Smith (75)
Ignoto said:
Imagine if he did the same thing in three weeks in a tied series ultimately costing us the series win.
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I imagine that if a player repeats an error that is not a common attribute to their game in a hypothetical future situation it could be scary...
 
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