Wallabies v Fiji, Sunday, 6 July, 1:30pm @ McDonald Jones Stadium, Newcastle

[molman]

I couldn't believe them continually showing the angle which did make it look like a forward pass and only a couple of times showing the ball coming backwards out of the hands.As you say,if it has to be looked at that closely then surely we just rely on the refs call.

Issue was that it wasn't clearly backwards out of the hands even when you look at the other camera angles. As @Strewthcobber said, it was a lineball decision that could have gone either way. I personally think they got it technically right, but it is so close that it's hard to say it's beyond doubt to disallow a try.

I'm hoping its a connection issue between Potter and Wright as it wasn't a very clean pass either way. Almost a bit of hospital pass if you watch the balls flight.

 

[molman]

TMO protocol doesn't help refs much



What do you do with the line ball ones? What do you do with decisions like this one that could be called either way?

Generally I'd prefer the benefit given to the attacking team who scored. Especially in examples like this where it's not the virtue of the pass being marginally forward or not that is having any real bearing on weather the try is scored or not.

 

[Sully]

I don't know what the lines in those photos are supposed to prove but, that was a forward pass all day. It was forward from the hands and it stayed forward. I called it live before the try was scored and nothing I've seen has changed my mind.

 

[Major Tom]

I don't know what the lines in those photos are supposed to prove but, that was a forward pass all day. It was forward from the hands and it stayed forward. I called it live before the try was scored and nothing I've seen has changed my mind.

Agree. If that’s not forward I don’t know what is.

 

[Micheal]

I don't know what the lines in those photos are supposed to prove but, that was a forward pass all day. It was forward from the hands and it stayed forward. I called it live before the try was scored and nothing I've seen has changed my mind.

I agree - watching it live I knew it would be called back and was surprised it took so long to do so. I have absolutely zero doubts that it was forward and was a fair call to rule it so.

 

[Brumby Runner]

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Issue was that it wasn't clearly backwards out of the hands even when you look at the other camera angles. As @Strewthcobber said, it was a lineball decision that could have gone either way. I personally think they got it technically right, but it is so close that it's hard to say it's beyond doubt to disallow a try.

I'm hoping its a connection issue between Potter and Wright as it wasn't a very clean pass either way. Almost a bit of hospital pass if you watch the balls flight.

No. The real issue is that the match officials must have clear evidence that the ball has been thrown or lost forward. It simply does not have to be thrown backwards and if a distinct throw forward can't be established then it is play on. I believe the Laws reference a throw forward and there is no mention of a forward pass. In this particular instance the on field referee's initial decision to play on together with the multiple replays are good indicators that the evidence of a clear throw forward was extremely doubtful.

 

[Linerunner2023]

The two passes Wright threw forward were about as flat as Finn Russell passes the ball every time during the game
Multiple times he is a fine line between flat or forward

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

FFS are we still banging on about that forward pass?

 

[Ignoto]

Most depressing thing is, Wright has played how many years under Larkham and the bloke still passes like a degenerate.

 

[notdeadyet]

Can’t really believe we’re discussing this. It looked forward as fuck live. I was not suprised they had a look at it. The replays didn’t show his hands going backwards so it made sense to overturn it.

methinks it is too close to call
IF wright was stationary when he threw the ball then definitely forward, however, he was still moving as hadn't been contacted by the defender,

 

[notdeadyet]

Can somebody explain to me WTF we are doing analysing forward on not passes, when the Lions are upon us?

far more interesting than discussing crowd numbers ...

 

[Uh huh]

Most depressing thing is, Wright has played how many years under Larkham and the bloke still passes like a degenerate.