Wallabies v All Blacks Saturday 26th August at Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin

[Slim 293]

Someone has been hitting the Shiggins moonshine.........

 

[ForceFan]

BLEDISLOE 2 – ALL BLACKS V WALLABIES– BREAKDOWN & OTHER MATTERS

Similar to Bled 1, Bled 2 2017 was a game of 2 halves.

The Wallabies Possession decreased from 54% in the 1st half to only 30% in the 2nd.
Similarly, Wallabies Territory decreased from 47% to 31%.
The Wallabies lost the 2nd half 12:21.
Hard to win a match when you don’t have the ball or mostly defending inside your own 22m.

The Penalty count was very lopsided – Wallabies 13:6 All Blacks.

Turn Overs Conceded the opposite – Wallabies 9:18 All Blacks

The Wallabies missed another 32 tackles (making 108 of 140) – still a fairly low 77%.
The All Blacks missed 14 tackles (making 80 of 94 – a credible 85%.

The Breakdown continues to be hard fought but with very few Turn Overs Won.
Both teams won, what most coaches would consider, an acceptable % of own rucks:
All Blacks 97% (103 of 106) – the Wallabies 95% (68 of 71).

INDIVIDUAL RUCK INVOLVEMENTS

Ruck Involvements (RIs) tabulated for the Forwards who make about 75%-80% of each team’s Total Ruck Involvements (TRIs). IMO RIs are a good measure of work rate – particularly for a Forward.
Remember:

1. Early means 1st or 2nd AFTER the ball carrier has been tackled and brought to ground.
2. Impact means active engagement: strong physical contact, changed shape of ruck, clean-out, protecting ball etc. (more than hand on someone’s bum or arriving after the hard work has been done). Yes it’s subjective - but as I collect all data at least it’s consistent.
3. Impact DOES NOT equate to Effectiveness. I’ve concluded that coming up with an effectiveness measure is just too hard in the time that I have available – but open to suggestions.

(Other than Ruck Involvements stats from ESPN)

RUCK INVOLVEMENTS OVER TIME

Significant lift in workrate from Whitelock, Moody & Read & Sio.
A Savea a worthy replacement for Cane.
Good impact from Tu'ungafasi & Hames off the bench.


Coleman's efforts missed at the breakdown.

 

[Dctarget]

How good is it that McMahon put in a good shift against a tier 1 side, especially the ABs in NZ no less.

I've been worried that he might be similar to Higginbotham - carve it up at Soup level but never translate that form to the Wallabies. This is very promising though. He looked dangerous against the best.

Exciting times to come for our backrow, shame he ain't here next year to pressure Pocock.

 

[Killer]

He's a good player, but can't get a start at the Force....

no he was/is the preferred starter. Injury and return from injury are the only stoppers. His partnership with Grant seems to work well. Grant really started playing well late this year, not so much kicking and just good kicks.
No doubt somewhat attributable to trusting the coaches system and the boys being there in support.
I think Lance is worth a camp to see, injury is his big problem, maybe he is due a good run?
Maybe the combo of Foley and Lance will work with Lance coming on late.
But then we get into bench cover issues etc etc
Just get him into camp, have a look, if nothing else can just slot him in if Foley falls over pre game.

 

[ForceFan]

All Blacks Tight 5 continue to outwork their Wallabies opponents.

All Blacks Front Row more prepared to provide their bulk in support of the AB ball carriers.
Wallabies Backs always prepared to be available out wide as required.

Most of the D Ruck work done by the Wallabies Back Row.
Simmons rarely makes it to D Rucks.
Sio's impact very evident.

Very similar to last week's distribution of numbers at Attack Rucks.
All Blacks more prepared to commit 3 or more players in support of their ball carriers.
Average numbers per Attack Ruck - All Blacks 2.4:2.3 Wallabies

As per last week, Wallabies standing of more D rucks.
Average players per D Ruck - All Blacks 0.6:0.4 Wallabies.


Ruck Involvements by Backs
Wallabies:
Kuridrani – 12 Total – 10 Attack/2 Defence
Speight – 10T – 9A/1D
Beale – 10T – 8A/2D
All Blacks:
SB Williams – 15T – 13A/2D
B Smith –11T - 7A/4D
Crotty – 10T – 9A/1D

TOP TACKLERS
Wallabies:
Foley – 15 made/1 missed; McMahon – 11/1; TPN - 11/3; Robertson & Hanigan - 9/1; Arnold - 9/3; Hooper - 9/6
All Blacks
B Barrett – 9 made/1 missed; A Savea & Whitelock – 8/1; Retallick – 7/1; Read - 7/2


(Tackle numbers corrected - Thanks Braveheart)

 

[Joe Blow]

Pretty impressive numbers for both Foley and Beale. Watching the replay I noticed both making some crucial tackles.
That is our 10/12/13 axis moving forward with Hunt to back it up. There is no doubting their attacking ability and these numbers show they contribute well in defense as well.

 

[jimmydubs]

Hooper - 3/6

Is that correct or a typo? Made 3 and missed 6??

 

[fatprop]

Is that correct or a typo? Made 3 and missed 6??

He only gets those kind of figures usually when he is used as the shooter, where his role is as much to harass and slow as it is to make the tackle

 

[Sully]

3 hit the post, it wasn't like he was shanking to the corner post

It isn't like we have other options that are better anyway

It isn't AFL! There is no consolation prize for hitting the post.

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[tragic]

He only gets those kind of figures usually when he is used as the shooter, where his role is as much to harass and slow as it is to make the tackle

Cheika is that you?
Right on cue.
Must..support..hooper..and foley.
He missed too many tackles. At least one miss resulted in a try.
Blue glasses off.

 

[Strewthcobber]

I wonder if there is a correlation between Foley doing a shitload of defence in the front line, and his inaccurate goal kicking.

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[ACT Crusader]

Cheika is that you?
Right on cue.
Must..support..hooper..and foley.
He missed too many tackles. At least one miss resulted in a try.
Blue glasses off.

And right on cue, a poster with a marooooon bear in the corner turns this into a provincial thing. Predictable as ever

 

[Scrubber2050]

Congrats to the Wallabies. Congrats for bringing a new attitude.

Sure we lost but when comparing our performance last week to this week it was a remarkable turnaround.

The only real negative (there are plenty but) was the shit performance of our front row, tight 5 at scrum time for most of the match.

The AB's were off their game (thankfully) and we played above expectation. We had some lucky moments that went our way. Worst game I have seen SBW play.

A major worry is Foley's kicking. Why is he so shithouse after being our primary kicker for a number of years ?

Jeez Cheika's antics in the coaching box are a terrible look.

It will be interesting to see if the performance last Saturday becomes a consistent feature of Wallaby culture. One game is a tad too early.

PS. At the end of the day and in reality, we still lost the game

 

[Derpus]

Would you look at that. Foley with 14 tackles missing only 1. From the supposed weakest defender on the field.

 

[Derpus]

Pretty impressive numbers for both Foley and Beale. Watching the replay I noticed both making some crucial tackles.
That is our 10/12/13 axis moving forward with Hunt to back it up. There is no doubting their attacking ability and these numbers show they contribute well in defense as well.

Question is, Hunt or Hodge on the bench? or both with Kerevi gone altogether?

 

[Up the Guts]

TOP TACKLERS
Wallabies:
Foley – 14 made/1 missed;

This can't be right, Kaopointman's eloquent polemics convinced me Foley was a terrible defender.

 

[Scrubber2050]

Question is, Hunt or Hodge on the bench? or both with Kerevi gone altogether?

Kerevi should be gone altogether. His defence is barely up to Super level let alone Test level.

His attacking abilities (although his skills are shit) don't compensate his defensive liabilities. TK is a much better option.

 

[tragic]

And right on cue, a poster with a marooooon bear in the corner turns this into a provincial thing. Predictable as ever

Mate I just call it as it is.
Backing foleys kicking last game because they didn't miss by much, and excusing hoopers missed tackles because he was acting as a shooter is laughable. It's either provincialism or it's lack of insight.
I'm just giving the benefit of the doubt.
With pocock out Hooper is the best 7 - no question. But when he has poor ruck involvement he's following orders, when he misses tackles it's because he's a designated shooter.
Yet when higgers plays a wide game he's seagulling, and when kerevi rushes up and misses tackles he's a defensive liability.
You explain it because I can't.
And before you level the same thing back first note I've been advocating Beale to have another shot at 10, hodge at fullback and kurudrani at 13 without a red in sight.

 

[Derpus]

Mate I just call it as it is.
Backing foleys kicking last game because they didn't miss by much, and excusing hoopers missed tackles because he was acting as a shooter is laughable. It's either provincialism or it's lack of insight.
I'm just giving the benefit of the doubt.
With pocock out Hooper is the best 7 - no question. But when he has poor ruck involvement he's following orders, when he misses tackles it's because he's a designated shooter.
Yet when higgers plays a wide game he's seagulling, and when kerevi rushes up and misses tackles he's a defensive liability.
You explain it because I can't.
And before you level the same thing back first note I've been advocating Beale to have another shot at 10, hodge at fullback and kurudrani at 13 without a red in sight.

Mate I just call it as it is.

Subjective rambling

 

[Brumby Runner]

It really isn't provincialism to point out the mistakes made by Hooper in this game and then to question the motives of a poster who invariably sees excuses for any misdeeds of players from his favourite franchise.

Hooper certainly missed too many tackles and not all by shooting out of the line. However, I can allow that as I think he had his best game for the Wallabies for some time. He actually looked like he was part of the forward pack, playing much tighter than usual and having more influence and presence at the breakdown. If he can now temper his rush a little bit to make most of the attempted tackles, he will be performing a much more valuable role for the Wallabies than he has done so before under Cheika.