Is Scott Fardy an alcoholic but in denial?
Poor Rob Simmons. Goes from the first XV to being the squad reject. Didn't he get an invite to dinner?
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Is Scott Fardy an alcoholic but in denial?
Poor Rob Simmons. Goes from the first XV to being the squad reject. Didn't he get an invite to dinner?
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Arch Winning (36)
Ok: 3 days (72hrs) after one test match, 3 days (72hrs) before the next. The players would've known on the Tuesday if they were in the 23.
They went out & got hammered.
I think the suspensions were handed down to those named to play Ireland because drinking 72hrs after one game & 72hrs before the next is fucking stupid no matter which way you looked at it. Certainly not the actions of a playing group under pressure doing all they could to perform better. And it isn't like we were in form so good at the time that would warrant a knees-up. We'd beaten Italy & been bent over by England everywhere but on the scoreboard.
Beyond the players who had been named, I think it was simple drunken fuckwittery.
If we'd lost to Ireland we would've been on these forums calling for players to be sent home & for Ewen to be sacked.
They went out & got hammered.
I think the suspensions were handed down to those named to play Ireland because drinking 72hrs after one game & 72hrs before the next is fucking stupid no matter which way you looked at it. Certainly not the actions of a playing group under pressure doing all they could to perform better. And it isn't like we were in form so good at the time that would warrant a knees-up. We'd beaten Italy & been bent over by England everywhere but on the scoreboard.
Beyond the players who had been named, I think it was simple drunken fuckwittery.
If we'd lost to Ireland we would've been on these forums calling for players to be sent home & for Ewen to be sacked.
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Dick Tooth (41)
Great bunch of lads. Wish I'd been there. Would have been a top night.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
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Jim Lenehan (48)
I'm assuming the players that were in the 23 that were drinking were suspended. I'm guessing the ones who got written warnings were as guilty as the suspended players, but as they were not scheduled to play it was seen as less serious.
The verbal warning were probably for being out too late (which included Fardy).
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Jim Lenehan (48)
I must admit it is hard for a young bloke who is travelling through the UK with his mates not to enjoy the local scenery every now and then. If I was over there for work Id be doing the same. to be honest, the only reason im not drunk right now is its a Monday...and Ewen wont let me drink on Mondays
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Nev Cottrell (35)
This.
Most of us bitched about Deans giving players plenty of latitude to play up with any consequences, so it's a bit rough to complain when McKenzie pulls these blokes up on a tight leash.
It's a breach of team protocols according to the article, and if there hadn't been so many starting players involved I doubt anyone would have taken any notice of it. Think it's being blown up into something bigger than it really is.
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David Codey (61)
Either there was a ban on drinking, and there was a curfew.
Or there were no fucking protocols about these issues.
They both cannot be right.
Or there were no fucking protocols about these issues.
They both cannot be right.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
There's obviously a set of standards the team has in place that has been breached, and I would assume that the leadership group would have approved the decision to sanction players.......
I think there's a clear distinction between enjoying a glass of wine with dinner and pullin an all nighter.........
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Just because they didn't break any preset rules doesn't mean that what they did wasn't in the wrong....
They aren't their on a holiday and have nights out with the boys, they are their to play rugby and represent their country, and getting paid handsomely to do so($75'000 in match fees alone) to do so.
Think about the context of events as well, people were upset when a sober KB (Kurtley Beale) and JOC (James O'Connor) were at a burger joint at 2am in the days prior to a test match, now you have some senior players drinking alcohol and presumably getting drunk in the days prior to a test... Links hand was forced
They aren't their on a holiday and have nights out with the boys, they are their to play rugby and represent their country, and getting paid handsomely to do so($75'000 in match fees alone) to do so.
Think about the context of events as well, people were upset when a sober KB (Kurtley Beale) and JOC (James O'Connor) were at a burger joint at 2am in the days prior to a test match, now you have some senior players drinking alcohol and presumably getting drunk in the days prior to a test... Links hand was forced
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Train Without a Station
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Well said. There's a clear scientific link between alcohol consumption and both recovery and athletic performance. Now I'm no sports scientist, but I'd assume have more than a couple of drinks would affect the intended recovery of a rest day.
These blokes are paid to be professional athletes, they are expected to maintain a reasonable standard of professionalism for certain periods of time. This is one of them.
It does sound a bit harsh but from the quotes, it appears they were allowed to have a few drinks and enjoy dinner out, but engaging in activity which would affect athletic performance was frowned upon. Well done for striving to maintain the highest professional standards.
Considering the goals of this time, the fair question on Tuesday night would have been, what would the All Blacks do?
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Already passed out - didn't get caught.
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
You rarely hear of any All Black doing this - let alone the core of the team.
As ever, when faced with an issue in rugby I ask myself what would the AB's do.
As ever, when faced with an issue in rugby I ask myself what would the AB's do.
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Train Without a Station
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Also, as a note, as I mentioned on the main page. The World Health Organization considers greater than 4 standard drinks in one session to be a binge and unhealthy levels for even irregular consumption. I'd assume team protocols would be around that levels.
Considering they are paid for athletic performance, I guess taking care of their bodies is part of their responsibilities.
I also like a drink, but you cannot say it did them no harm. Studies clearly show it does and it is the players responsibility to keep themselves in peak physical condition. They're not paid for their IP, their paid for their athletic performance.
Considering they are paid for athletic performance, I guess taking care of their bodies is part of their responsibilities.
I also like a drink, but you cannot say it did them no harm. Studies clearly show it does and it is the players responsibility to keep themselves in peak physical condition. They're not paid for their IP, their paid for their athletic performance.
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Mark Ella (57)
I agree. I should of clarified it as a storm in a tea cup from the media.
These fella's just need to use some common sense. I don't think anybody would begrudge them a discrete outing to the pub if they call it a night at a responsible hour. We all deserve and need a chance to wind down.
The matter has been handled and dealt with, so let that be the end of it and move on.
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