Wallabies 2023

[Joe Blow]

What World Cup has Morne Steyn ever steered anyone to?

He has not won a senior RWC but he has won Rugby Championships, Curry Cups and everything else there is to win. My point is he is an experienced winning 10 who can kick goals and was retained because of it.
His RWC record is 5 wins and one loss. I’d take it.
He might not be the best example but I gather you get the idea. Sub Andre Pollard for Steyn if it makes you feel better.

 

[DropGoal]

We need Beale back in the side asap .. he’s a X factor

If we lose cooper and Beale must be brought in immediately

You all laughed at me last week

well your not laughing now

 

[Tomthumb]

He has not won a senior RWC but he has won Rugby Championships, Curry Cups and everything else there is to win. My point is he is an experienced winning 10 who can kick goals and was retained because of it.
His RWC record is 5 wins and one loss. I’d take it.
He might not be the best example but I gather you get the idea. Sub Andre Pollard for Steyn if it makes you feel better.

The point you are missing is that all these 10s you mention all won behind dominant forward packs

Put Morne Steyn out there vs Fiji and he’s just as inept as Gordon. We were dominated up front in the rucks

 

[HooperPocockSmith]

Structure of other countries is pretty irrelevant to what is happening in Australia. Not having to compete with league and Aussie rules would fix every single problem but with those continuing to seperate and be even more dominant the future is very grim, with the set-ups outside of elite private schools very difficult to cut through to any talent outside the system. Throwing names up good because it does seem Rugby Australia is willing to compete financially however hard to see one person ever fixing things, at least they are trying through planned centralisation model, but at the end of the day extremely difficult to improve in elite level sport

I don’t think that is entirely true. My comment about Ireland’s structure relates to developing the talent that we currently have. I’m not talking about competition for viewers.
In terms of participation numbers, rugby ranks 4th behind Gaelic football, hurling and soccer. It’s not like they’re blessed with the cream of the crop in a population of 5m. But they work with the talent they have. I’m sure in 10-15 years, rugby will have grown to schools outside of the elite programs that currently provide the vast majority of Irish test representatives. The reason for this? Success at a national level.

 

[Goosestep]

I don’t think that is entirely true. My comment about Ireland’s structure relates to developing the talent that we currently have. I’m not talking about competition for viewers.
In terms of participation numbers, rugby ranks 4th behind Gaelic football, hurling and soccer. It’s not like they’re blessed with the cream of the crop in a population of 5m. But they work with the talent they have. I’m sure in 10-15 years, rugby will have grown to schools outside of the elite programs that currently provide the vast majority of Irish test representatives. The reason for this? Success at a national level.

Exactly success is the best promotion for growing the game

 

[Dismal Pillock]

Nucifora is apparently not interested...

Fine then, I'll do it.

Jesus, do I have to do everything around here?

Here is my team, all of whom will be on MASSIVE contract$$ from Rugby Australia.

You want the best you fucking pay us.

Treasurer: @Dismal Pillock
All The Dull Shitwork Going Around the Clubs Trying To Get All The Arseholes On The Same Page: @Pfitzy
Selectors: @Tomikin @Brumby Runner Responsible for fast-tracking all ACT Brumbies players directly into the Wallabies. Don't complain, nobody else in Australian rugby knows how to win.
Relentlessly Upbeat and Positive Social Media manager: @Derpus
Bondi Beach talent scout: @zer0
Bondi Beach talent scout: @Dismal Pillock

 

[Pfitzy]

All The Dull Shitwork Going Around the Clubs Trying To Get All The Arseholes On The Same Page: @Pfitzy

As long as I also get a blank cheque on decisions and repercussions, an electric car, and an embossed cudgel.

Won't take more than the off-season.

 

[Dismal Pillock]

As long as I also get a blank cheque on decisions and repercussions, an electric car, and an embossed cudgel.

Haven't heard Cyclo called that before.

Will enter it in my rolodex under Insults To Use On Cyclo.

 

[Derpus]

Fine then, I'll do it.

Jesus, do I have to do everything around here?

Here is my team, all of whom will be on MASSIVE contract$$ from Rugby Australia.

You want the best you fucking pay us.

Treasurer: @Dismal Pillock
All The Dull Shitwork Going Around the Clubs Trying To Get All The Arseholes On The Same Page: @Pfitzy
Selectors: @Tomikin @Brumby Runner Responsible for fast-tracking all ACT Brumbies players directly into the Wallabies. Don't complain, nobody else in Australian rugby knows how to win.
Relentlessly Upbeat and Positive Social Media manager: @Derpus
Bondi Beach talent scout: @zer0
Bondi Beach talent scout: @Dismal Pillock

I was hoping for the role of document shredder but I'll take it.

 

[Joe Blow]

The point you are missing is that all these 10s you mention all won behind dominant forward packs

Put Morne Steyn out there vs Fiji and he’s just as inept as Gordon. We were dominated up front in the rucks

You are missing the point I reckon. Our pack on paper is big and pretty decent but what are they being coached to play? The selections of team and coaches have been off. The game plan is off.
The remaining experienced players look lost and frustrated. Trying to implement a new game plan a couple of months out from a RWC is fraught with danger. It obviously did not work.
Now if we can miraculously pull off a win against Wales then all will not be lost but how much further can we realistically go? Hope for the best and prepare for the worst

 

[Ignoto]

Johnny Wilkinson, Dan Carter, Morne Steyn etc etc. History doesn’t lie.

But history also showed us New Zealand won the 2011 WC with a third string 10 who'd been on a fishing trip piss up getting served pies from Weepu.

You can win the World Cup if your forwards dominate the opposition.

 

[John S]

You all laughed at me last week

well your not laughing now

You still realise that Beale is in the middle of court action - he's but going anywhere.

And if you don't that's why you must realise we're still laughing at you

 

[John S]

I was hoping for the role of document shredder but I'll take it.

As an accountant I think I'm qualified to use one of those

 

[dillyboy]

You all laughed at me last week

well your not laughing now

You realise that Beale likely isn't allowed out of the country as part of his bail conditions......

 

[Tomthumb]

You are missing the point I reckon. Our pack on paper is big and pretty decent but what are they being coached to play? The selections of team and coaches have been off. The game plan is off.
The remaining experienced players look lost and frustrated. Trying to implement a new game plan a couple of months out from a RWC is fraught with danger. It obviously did not work.
Now if we can miraculously pull off a win against Wales then all will not be lost but how much further can we realistically go? Hope for the best and prepare for the worst

I don’t care how big the forwards are, their work around the rucks was abysmal. Players going into contact by themselves with other players far more interested in standing off than getting tight and keeping the Fijians from Pilfering every single ruck

 

[HogansHeros]

I don’t think that is entirely true. My comment about Ireland’s structure relates to developing the talent that we currently have. I’m not talking about competition for viewers.
In terms of participation numbers, rugby ranks 4th behind Gaelic football, hurling and soccer. It’s not like they’re blessed with the cream of the crop in a population of 5m. But they work with the talent they have. I’m sure in 10-15 years, rugby will have grown to schools outside of the elite programs that currently provide the vast majority of Irish test representatives. The reason for this? Success at a national level.

I agree, Its always been such a cop out that we have to compete with other sports. Bar Fiji, NZ, Georgia and funnily enough Madagascar everyone is competing with other sports.

 

[Goosestep]

I agree, Its always been such a cop out that we have to compete with other sports. Bar Fiji, NZ, Georgia and funnily enough Madagascar everyone is competing with other sports.

True .. the only real country that doesn’t have to compete is NZ

 

[Out of the woodwork]

All of the negativity around Jones has been reduced to silence, Steve Hansen is a winner, Eddie Jones is a winner.
Our Wallabies are on the verge of history. As custodians, we need to be positive and support our team playing the Australian way.
France 2023.

Maybe S3at got banned for this and not for breaking the Chrichton story haha.
Has not aged well.

 

[Silverado]

True .. the only real country that doesn’t have to compete is NZ

Warriors are starting to challenge that.

 

[Goosestep]

Warriors are starting to challenge that.

The warriors are to NZ what the swans are to Sydney

people only care when they’re good