Wallabies 2023

[Brumby Runner]

And, BR, perhaps less so with
Uelese over Lonergan
Arnold over Neville
Gleeson over Samu
IFL over Lonergan
Donaldson over Lolesio
Jorgensen over Wright
If so, I might add, in most cases I would agree with you

Froggy, I have long since accepted those selections by Jones, even agreeing with some of them.

I am happy to acknowledge IFL as the third No 9 in Eddie's game plan, but I also think Ryan Lonergan might replace Nic White in the running for a spot in 2024.

I think Neville was very unlucky to miss out but Richie A is going ok and clearly offers what Eddie wants, probably height in the lineout.

I was more put out by Ben Donaldson's selection but not necessarily because it was at Noah's expense, but because I thought that there were better options, eg Tom Wright.

 

[Goosestep]

Anyone aware of the chances of Jorgensen starting (without anyone else being injured)

Bit rough if they Feed him to Fiji for a first test match lol

 

[Tomikin]

Froggy, I have long since accepted those selections by Jones, even agreeing with some of them.

I am happy to acknowledge IFL as the third No 9 in Eddie's game plan, but I also think Ryan Lonergan might replace Nic White in the running for a spot in 2024.

I think Neville was very unlucky to miss out but Richie A is going ok and clearly offers what Eddie wants, probably height in the lineout.

I was more put out by Ben Donaldson's selection but not necessarily because it was at Noah's expense, but because I thought that there were better options, eg Tom Wright.

Dont feed it mate. People will always assume your bias even though most the time you justify your positions.

 

[Derpus]

Froggy, I have long since accepted those selections by Jones, even agreeing with some of them.

I am happy to acknowledge IFL as the third No 9 in Eddie's game plan, but I also think Ryan Lonergan might replace Nic White in the running for a spot in 2024.

I think Neville was very unlucky to miss out but Richie A is going ok and clearly offers what Eddie wants, probably height in the lineout.

I was more put out by Ben Donaldson's selection but not necessarily because it was at Noah's expense, but because I thought that there were better options, eg Tom Wright.

Tom Wright firmly played himself out of a gig but I agree Noah would be a good inclusion. But anyway, this is the squad we have now.

 

[Linerunner2023]

Tom Wright firmly played himself out of a gig but I agree Noah would be a good inclusion. But anyway, this is the squad we have now.

I think Tom Wright still had a chance for winger and could have been there
If kellaway not injured early on Wright would have played wing and maybe played well
And If Beale played he could have been too

 

[rodha]

Id have swapped Pocock. Malcolm Marx seems a very similar build and skill set.

Um, but they don't really? Pocock 1.83/103kg, Marx 189cm/115kg.

Australia's best no.2 since Pocock started - Moore, TPN, Latu, BPN, all of these guys were 117kg+ the latter were all massive explosive ball carriers and added much needed weight to Australia's scrum.

Pocock is considered small for an international openside today & his lack of size would be even more problematic at no2.

 

[Goosestep]

Um, but they don't really? Pocock 1.83/103kg, Marx 189cm/115kg.

Australia's best no.2 since Pocock started - Moore, TPN (Tatafu Polota-Nau), Latu, BPN, all of these guys were 117kg+ the latter were all massive explosive ball carriers and added much needed weight to Australia's scrum.

Pocock is considered small for an international openside today & his lack of size would be even more problematic at no2.

It’s not so much the lack of size, (some counties have smaller/ more mobilise number 2s) the real issue would have been the lack of scrummaging .. you need to start that shit young .. can’t be picking it up at the professional level .

 

[KOB1987]

It’s not so much the lack of size, (some counties have smaller/ more mobilise number 2s) the real issue would have been the lack of scrummaging .. you need to start that shit young .. can’t be picking it up at the professional level .

Richard Harry would like a word

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

I think you want to be very careful about converting players into front rowers, given the strength required and technical aspects. Chat about Hooper or Pocock at hooker is fanciful IMHO. It's not like converting a fullback to a five eighth like we did with Larkham.

 

[Drew]

Tom Wright firmly played himself out of a gig but I agree Noah would be a good inclusion. But anyway, this is the squad we have now.

I think Donaldson and Noah suffered from their Super Rugby teams playmaking from 9. Without the ball playing aspect of the 10 role, they’re just kind of small guys kicking for touch and goal. It’s weird that that game plan has gone out of favour all of a sudden.

 

[Derpus]

I think you want to be very careful about converting players into front rowers, given the strength required and technical aspects. Chat about Hooper or Pocock at hooker is fanciful IMHO. It's not like converting a fullback to a five eighth like we did with Larkham.

Are you implying Pocock wouldn't have been strong enough? Bold.

 

[Goosestep]

Richard Harry would like a word

True he did well, but was still pretty young when he switched . …plus it wasn’t the professional area back then in the early 90s

he also dropped to 5th grade club rugby to learn his craft lol .. I doubt many modern players would be willing to do that

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Are you implying Pocock wouldn't have been strong enough? Bold.

Different kind of strength from playing openside, Derp. It's all the core, spine and neck strength that builds up over years of playing in the front row.

 

[Goosestep]

Are you implying Pocock wouldn't have been strong enough? Bold.

Mate if you threw Payne haas in a professional scrum without any experience he’d snap his neck

…it’s got little to do with how much u bench in the weight room

Rather, Front row has lots of skill, reps, strength & technique that takes years to develop.. there’s a reason why you MUST have an extra prop on the bench… no other position is compulsory ..

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[Yoda]

I think Donaldson and Noah suffered from their Super Rugby teams playmaking from 9. Without the ball playing aspect of the 10 role, they’re just kind of small guys kicking for touch and goal. It’s weird that that game plan has gone out of favour all of a sudden.

Spot on Drew. Coleman and Larkham thought it a good way to go? Don’t understand those tactics. Especially from one of the greatest 10’s Australia has produced in Larkham.

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

I think Tom Wright still had a chance for winger and could have been there
If kellaway not injured early on Wright would have played wing and maybe played well
And If Beale played he could have been too

Wright was a chance at Wing until Marky turned it on and slammed the door on him. Vuni had a gifted run it seemed as well as he has done.

Spot on Drew. Coleman and Larkham thought it a good way to go? Don’t understand those tactics. Especially from one of the greatest 10’s Australia has produced in Larkham.

It probably tells you a fair bit about ability/ability to win matches. They see them a lot more than we do. The Brums used Jack Deb as their primary 10.

 

[Sir Arthur Higgins]

I watched the game again yesterday and Donaldson did not put a foot wrong outside of a couple of missed tackles. His positional play was flawless and his kicking very good for the most part. He was right there to score two, almost three, tries, saved another certain try and showed a very good turn of pace.
Both Cooper and Foley were horrible in defense when initially selected for the Wallabies and now they are decent in that area, often putting their bodies on the line to make tackles. Donaldson needs to be given a little direction in this part of his game.
I have not been a fan of his selection but good luck to him and well played.

Cooper was horrible in defense for 10 years. Let’s hope we don’t wait that long

 

[Yoda]

Cooper was horrible in defense for 10 years. Let’s hope we don’t wait that long

SAH. Yes. People seem to forget that about QC (Quade Cooper).

 

[qwerty51]

 

[wamberal99]

SAH. Yes. People seem to forget that about QC (Quade Cooper) (Quade Cooper).

Who could forget???