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Mark Ella (57)
I didn't say they are the greatest ever - I said they should have been.
Oh I missed that. I 100% agree. I actually feel a bit sad about 'what could have been'.
I didn't say they are the greatest ever - I said they should have been.
It depends on the time frame - "ever" is a long time. We have produced some very good fly-halves over the years.I didn't say they are the greatest ever - I said they should have been.
Okay - I actually said 'some of the greatest ever'. Feel like you guys are missing the general point of my post.It depends on the time frame - "ever" is a long time. We have produced some very good fly-halves over the years.
Problem with his indiscretions is that he wasnt appropriately dealt with at the time. All of Quade, OConnor and Beale were generational talents that should now be recognized as some of the greatest ever but we failed to effectively implement a no-dickhead policy.
Rennie seems to have cultivated a much healthier work environment. Shame he doesn't have the generational talent to go with it.
When you remember some of the performances Beale had during his John Eales medal year it hurts.
Am interested to see how he's used at the Tahs next year.
See what you mean about JOC (James O'Connor) but I really don't think the Tahs should be held responsible for Beale's totally unacceptable behaviour as a Wallaby on the plane to/from Argentina. Some Tahs players, sure for backing him against Link, but not the Tahs club.I agree with everything you've said except I think you're giving Rennie too much credit for his heathier work environment.
He's only had to deal with the three amigos at the back end of their career's. Not much drama there, also to my knowledge there aren't players in his current squad who are 'troublemakers'.
As an aside, I don't think it's the job of the head of coach of the national team to set the standard of behaviours. Players are with their Super Rugby teams, in their home states for much longer periods of the year. Some of the behaviours the above three learned happened in that environment. For example JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor) clearly didn't know how to handle being the marquee player for the Western Force straight out of high school and should have received more guidance.
Richard Graham was Skills Coach? Easy job with those naturally gifted players.The footy we were playing in 2010 at times was sensational. Cooper at 10. JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor) on the wing. Beal at fullback. Giteau and AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) (Adam Ashley-Cooper) in the centres. Genia sniping. Poey and Rocky in the backrow. It was amazing at times. Deans coach and I THINK Richard Graham skills coach?
After last night's game Swain should be dropped for good.
Not sure he had intent but I think WR (World Rugby)/SANZAAR will take that out of our hands.After last night's game Swain should be dropped for good.
Agree on Swain and Wright. Time to give Vunivalu a crack IMONot sure he had intent but I think WR (World Rugby)/SANZAAR will take that out of our hands.
Tom Wright can go too. His discipline is appalling.
Foketi has replicated Paisami's game quite well. Not sure Hunter would slot straight back in.
I believe we will be very competitive at Eden Park. It is surely time. If not now, when?Agree on Swain and Wright. Time to give Vunivalu a crack IMO
Only thing I’ll say on Paisami is he offers a better kicking option then Foketi, from what I’ve seen
Not sure he had intent but I think WR (World Rugby)/SANZAAR will take that out of our hands.
Tom Wright can go too. His discipline is appalling.
Foketi has replicated Paisami's game quite well. Not sure Hunter would slot straight back in.
Credit where it's due, Lalakai was good over the ball - won a couple of penalties, and I didn't notice any glaring defensive misses.
Foketi was great but he could actually see and hear the ref from where he was standing but Foley couldn't....that's why the three in that gif doing the rounds were yelling at him.I was really impressed with Foketi, few solid runs too. He was also the one yelling at Foley to kick the ball out so that shows he can read the game and ref pretty well - well at least better then Foley did at the time.
Foketi was great but he could actually see and hear the ref from where he was standing but Foley couldn't....that's why the three in that gif doing the rounds were yelling at him.