Enjoying the dismal turn this thread has taken.This is a nice warm cup of depresso.
Mate, I was by the phone after the Super Rugby Final but you never called.Enjoying the dismal turn this thread has taken.
I fixed that for you.Yeah.
I always thought Link was capable of using the same playing group and putting into play completely different game plans for each opponent. He demonstrated this ability while at the Reds with vastly different plans (I assume they came from the coach) against different styles of play. When playing a lineout champion team like the Bulls it would be a vastly different plan to a team that relies on kick returns from broken play. The game plan v B&I Lions looked good for half of the game until a partly second string Reds were overrun by quality opposition.The Link vs Beale thing is a hard hypothetical, mainly because we still don't know what was really happening behind the scenes. Which is funny these days when dirty laundry is aired minutes after a coach/player leaving the room.
Was the Beale thing indicative of broader problems in the dressing room, which his departure may have exacerbated? Or would KBs leaving help the general dynamic? It's impossible to know the answer unless you were there. Which none of us were.
The boring answer is I don't think either would have made an enormous difference to our fortunes today. The McKenzie Wallabies were really no better or worse than the Deans Wallabies, and the Cheika Wallabies afterwards (barring the World Cup run). Taking Beale out of that mix probably wouldn't have helped or hindered that.
totally agree, we should hold off discussing previous coaches abilities until we know if we win. If we lose the flood gates will probably open againFFS! Everything that is ever going to be said about Link and Cheika has been tossed over one hundred times. It's old news and boring as fuck! There's a fucking test in five fucking days. Move on.
They are going to have a hard time winning period.Maybe the moderators could prevent input that is not related to the thread heading?
If the Wallabies lose the first test in Perth, they're going to have a hard time winning the series, unless the coaching team dramatically change tactics.
So another clean sweep by Pommies. InterestingThey are going to have a hard time winning period.
Their pack is, particularly without Tupou, better and more experienced than ours and as Fatprop is always at pains to point out, this is where the game is won or lost.
I would take Lawes and Itoje over any of our 4, 5, 6 options.
As much as I love Hoops you'd be hard pressed not to pick Underhill over him for his dominance on the defensive side of the ball.
Their first choice hooker isn't uncapped.
Our one area of strength, THP, is now potentially another area of weakness.
As exciting as Valetini and Wilson are - Billy V has 60 caps and is apparently in damaging form.
Etc - as usual we are going to struggle.
I'm not saying we have no chance. I think we will break the losing streak at the very least. If we do win the series it will be a huge success for Rennie.So another clean sweep by Pommies. Interesting
They are going to have a hard time winning period.
Their pack is, particularly without Tupou, better and more experienced than ours and as Fatprop is always at pains to point out, this is where the game is won or lost.
I would take Lawes and Itoje over any of our 4, 5, 6 options.
As much as I love Hoops you'd be hard pressed not to pick Underhill over him for his dominance on the defensive side of the ball.
Their first choice hooker isn't uncapped.
Our one area of strength, THP, is now potentially another area of weakness.
As exciting as Valetini and Wilson are - Billy V has 60 caps and is apparently in damaging form.
Etc - as usual we are going to struggle.
totally agree, we should hold off discussing previous coaches abilities until we know if we win. If we lose the flood gates will probably open again
I think it will be 2-1. Which way is what I currently can't decide.
It reminds me of the media outrage that follows the calendar.This is like the Stan’s classics collection where if we have slow rugby day we can rehash the 1000 different where to for super rugby day arguments, discuss the last 10 poor wallabies coaches, or any other zillion circular threads that get rehashed on here. Often wondered if G&GR threads are a great example of the circular economy in action.