Wallabies 2021

[emuarse]

If they're adding Arnold and Skelton though, they had to ditch at least one lock. LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) is the easiest to leave out given he hasn't been there for a few weeks anyway.

I guess they could make the argument that Swain would benefit from staying home for the preseason but at the same time, his good form has probably seen him jump up the pecking order.

That, combined with a Brumbies coach also being the assistant Wallabies forward coach. What could be construed in the legal world as "a conflict of interest"

 

[fatprop]

If they're adding Arnold and Skelton though, they had to ditch at least one lock. LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) is the easiest to leave out given he hasn't been there for a few weeks anyway.

I guess they could make the argument that Swain would benefit from staying home for the preseason but at the same time, his good form has probably seen him jump up the pecking order.

It is interesting to see how quickly gaps are filled up, last year we were wondering if we would ever have quality locks again, now we are looking at letting one of our best young locks get a full pre season

 

[kiap]

We are really quite bare in the IRB/World Rugby Awards.

There a reason for that.

I reckon that will happen anyway.

Who do you predict will host the 2027 RWC?

 

[Derpus]

Wrong hemisphere?

 

[kiap]

Wrong hemisphere?

Well, … the kiwis were better, innit.

Many, including me, talk about a decade-plus decline here. We can't just forget saying that.

But your wrong hemisphere idea can come into play on tight decisions. 50-50 with weight added becomes 45-55.

 

[Tomikin]

If they're adding Arnold and Skelton though, they had to ditch at least one lock. LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) is the easiest to leave out given he hasn't been there for a few weeks anyway.

I guess they could make the argument that Swain would benefit from staying home for the preseason but at the same time, his good form has probably seen him jump up the pecking order.

I dont get this, Swain been around the Brumbies for a few years doing preseasons, his better off playing some rugby in the north.

 

[Derpus]

Well, … the kiwis were better, innit.

Many, including me, talk about a decade-plus decline here. We can't just forget saying that.

But your wrong hemisphere idea can come into play on tight decisions. 50-50 with weight added becomes 45-55.

Saw a Welsh player in the list so just assumed its 90% nonsense.

 

[Braveheart81]

I dont get this, Swain been around the Brumbies for a few years doing preseasons, his better off playing some rugby in the north.

So has Salakaia-Loto.

My only point was that if it was still considered that LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) was ahead of or level with Swain then they could have left Swain behind under the guise of him now having played a lot of test rugby this year and the Wallabies coaching staff thinking his body would benefit from a break from that and a proper preseason.

The thing Swain has never done is play through the domestic test season, go on the EOYT and then come back in December and have a much shorter preseason before needing to play again.

 

[Adam84]

I think Swain is still playing 5kg of muscle too light, lost a few too many collisions in defence and when running the ball, needs to bulk up a bit more which is slow for those tall blokes

 

[Joe Blow]

Let’s be clear, anybody who is left behind to get a full pre-season will essentially feel that they have been dropped. One minute you are in the squad and then you are not. Not required, surplus to requirements, not selected in the top 36 etc etc etc.

 

[Derpus]

Let’s be clear, anybody who is left behind to get a full pre-season will essentially feel that they have been dropped. One minute you are in the squad and then you are not. Not required, surplus to requirements, not selected in the top 36 etc etc etc.

Yeah - Wilson's fall from grace has been a little surprising to me.

 

[Joe Blow]

Yeah - Wilson's fall from grace has been a little surprising to me.

They all want to go on the tour. If not selected they will need to apply themselves and go a level up for next year. A good thing no doubt but still maybe a little bitter sweet if replaced by an OS non-Giteau law qualified player.

 

[Ignoto]

Let’s be clear, anybody who is left behind to get a full pre-season will essentially feel that they have been dropped. One minute you are in the squad and then you are not. Not required, surplus to requirements, not selected in the top 36 etc etc etc.

I dunno, it's kind of refreshing to have the opposite of the Australian Cricket team of it being harder to get 'out' of the team than 'in' it.

 

[PhilClinton]

We are really quite bare in the IRB/World Rugby Awards. Discounting the "Chairman's Awards" this is our trophy list:

Rod McQueen - Coach of the Year 2001
TPN - U21 POTY 2005
Josh Holmes - U19 POTY 2006
Emilee Cherry - Womens 7s POTY 2014
Michel Cheika - Coach of the Year 2015
Charlotte Caslick- Womens 7s POTY 2016

Geez how young was Caslick when she won that POTY... must have only been 18 or 19

 

[Rugby Head]

I think Swain is still playing 5kg of muscle too light, lost a few too many collisions in defence and when running the ball, needs to bulk up a bit more which is slow for those fall blokes

100% agree, he's very good in the maul and gets around the park well. But too often he is losing the collision. He should stay in Aus and put some weight on, I don't see him getting any game time anyway. Skelton/ Arnold/ Phillip/ Rodda will all be selected ahead of him. Even if we had an injury, heck I'd bring in Adam Coleman.

 

[Braveheart81]

Geez how young was Caslick when she won that POTY... must have only been 18 or 19

21. She's 26 now.

 

[Brumby Runner]

100% agree, he's very good in the maul and gets around the park well. But too often he is losing the collision. He should stay in Aus and put some weight on, I don't see him getting any game time anyway. Skelton/ Arnold/ Phillip/ Rodda will all be selected ahead of him. Even if we had an injury, heck I'd bring in Adam Coleman.

Horses for courses RH. If Arnold goes down and the coaches want a maul disrupter then Swain might be the go to man.

 

[Derpus]

Horses for courses RH. If Arnold goes down and the coaches want a maul disrupter then Swain might be the go to man.

Swain is great at the maul work. Really enjoy it.

I fucking hate mauls and anyone who can ruin them is alright in my books.

 

[RugbyReg]

it was always a strength of Skelton's too. Not sure if it still is but I'd imagine so given the forward focus over there

 

[Tomikin]

So has Salakaia-Loto.

My only point was that if it was still considered that LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) was ahead of or level with Swain then they could have left Swain behind under the guise of him now having played a lot of test rugby this year and the Wallabies coaching staff thinking his body would benefit from a break from that and a proper preseason.

The thing Swain has never done is play through the domestic test season, go on the EOYT and then come back in December and have a much shorter preseason before needing to play again.

But Im guessing LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) has wanted to stay behind with his baby.. I could be wrong.