Wallabies 2020

[Silverado]

9-15: White, To'omua, Koroibete, JOC (James O'Connor), Petaia, T.Wright, Banks.
21-23: Tate, Lolesio, Hodge.

I like Lolesio, but if both JOC (James O'Connor) and To'omua in the team, 5/8 well covered. I'd have TK on the bench

 

[TSR]

I think Petaia is our long term 13, probably as early as next year, but I’d be quite happy to retain Kuridrani at the moment. He’s a proven test player, gets over the gain line and defends well. Petaia is excellent on the wing too, so I would retain him there.

JOC (James O'Connor) has been my preferred 12 all season. I don’t care he isn’t playing there for the Reds - he is a proven international too and he’ll be fine.

However Simone has changed my view. He has been outstanding IMO and already has a combination with TK.

I’d have JOC (James O'Connor) at 10, particularly if he can keep playing like last night, but To'omua is in the same bracket.

I’ll reserve judgement on half until we actually see White in action. But assuming he is in form I’d guess Rennie will start him and bring McDermott off the bench. Interesting though that with Powell the Brumbies incumbent and McDemott being rotated to the bench Powell may currently hold the whip hand in this tussle.

So I’d see -
White, JOC (James O'Connor), Koroibete, Simone, TK, Petaia & Banks/DHP (I’d lean to DHP I’d he’s fit)

 

[Hammertime]

I still find it hard to believe people on the forum are still picking players that have earnt us the 7th position in the world. Out with the old in the the new.

Backline:
JMcdermot
JOC (James O'Connor)
simone
Petia
Korbiete
Dugane
Banks

Can't be any worse then what we have come to expect

 

[KOB1987]

I have to say Banks at 15 is pretty uninspiring. None of the fullbacks are really lighting the world on fire at the moment.

Banks has gone completely off the boil.

I'm with you two. I get that he's recovering from a foot injury and that's a bit of a shit for him but unless he actually gets over it and finds some prior form he won't be seeing much time in gold.

Banks has done nothing wrong and the Reds defence last night was hitting a sweat spot rarely seen. He or DHP will do nicely.

No he hasn't done anything wrong but he has been far from inspiring too. As was discussed last week on this topic, if he's going to put his hand up to displace DHP and be the first choice fullback then he needs to do a bit more. DHP also has an injury to get over but he has incumbency on his side. If DHP doesn't recover in the timeframe they are talking (4-6 weeks) then that's a different story, but I still don't think Tom has been the best of the other 4 fullbacks. At the risk of sounding like I'm trying to do a Cheika and fit the best players on the pitch in any old position, I think JOC (James O'Connor) would be the best option for 15 at this point in time. Some players can excel in more than one position, he's one of them, so it matters not what position he is playing at the moment. I agree that he's the frontrunner for 10 right now though. It's good to actually have options!

 

[KOB1987]

I still find it hard to believe people on the forum are still picking players that have earnt us the 7th position in the world. Out with the old in the the new.

Backline:
9 JMcdermot
10 JOC (James O'Connor)
11 simone
12 Petia
13 Korbiete
14 Dugane
15 Banks

Can't be any worse then what we have come to expect

Welcome, might need to brush up your spelling there old mate. And learn McDermott's first name. You might trot that backline out, I don't think too many other people would though. Just to clarify I've put the numbers in front of the names to check you meant it like you wrote it.

I assume you actually meant it like this though.

9 T McDermott
10 JOC (James O'Connor)
11 Daugunu
12 Simone
13 Petaia
14 Koroibete
15 Banks

I don't mind that longer term, to trot it out first up in a Bledisloe might not end so well though.

 

[Up the Guts]

Welcome, might need to brush up your spelling there old mate. And learn McDermott's first name. You might trot that backline out, I don't think too many other people would though. Just to clarify I've put the numbers in front of the names to check you meant it like you wrote it.

I assume you actually meant it like this though.

9 T McDermott
10 JOC (James O'Connor)
11 Daugunu
12 Simone
13 Petaia
14 Koroibete
15 Banks

I don't mind that longer term, to trot it out first up in a Bledisloe might not end so well though.

I get the sentiment behind not wanting to start too many rookies against the ABs but I don’t think it’s as much of an issue this year. The ABs will have new combinations themselves—it’s not like they’ll be lining up against Nonu and Smith. The ABs also have a new coach so they might not be like Hansen’s well oiled machine in the first match. Finally, a lot of the rookies have had success in u20s against the ABs and aren’t mired by constant Super losses so aren’t likely to be as intimidated.

 

[KOB1987]

I get the sentiment behind not wanting to start too many rookies against the ABs but I don’t think it’s as much of an issue this year. The ABs will have new combinations themselves—it’s not like they’ll be lining up against Nonu and Smith. The ABs also have a new coach so they might not be like Hansen’s well oiled machine in the first match. Finally, a lot of the rookies have had success in u20s against the ABs and aren’t mired by constant Super losses so aren’t likely to be as intimidated.

True. Put To'omua at 12, Kuridrani at 13, and DHP at 15 if fit to start with though. Probably Petaia on the wing over Daugunu. Bring him, Simone, Banks/Maddocks and one or both of the young 10's into the fold off the bench v the ABs.

 

[Up the Guts]

True. Put To'omua at 12, Kuridrani at 13, and DHP at 15 if fit to start with though. Probably Petaia on the wing over Daugunu. Bring him, Simone, Banks/Maddocks and one or both of the young 10's into the fold off the bench v the ABs.

I only want to see one of Banks, DHP, and Maddocks in the 23. Preferably DHP. I’d rather have Wright or Daugunu on the bench.

 

[Rebels3]

I don’t like the thought of JOC (James O'Connor) at 10. He still looks like a centre playing 10. To'omua is similar but exhibits a lot more control over the match than JOC (James O'Connor) does. His kicking isn’t great and at times very loose with the ball in hand, don’t get me wrong he has been in solid form but I think he’s been playing solid for a 12 that happens to have 10 on his back.

 

[Bobby Sands]

I only want to see one of Banks, DHP, and Maddocks in the 23. Preferably DHP. I’d rather have Wright or Daugunu on the bench.

Agree with this.

 

[Rebels3]

I only want to see one of Banks, DHP, and Maddocks in the 23. Preferably DHP. I’d rather have Wright or Daugunu on the bench.

Don’t want Daugunu on the bench either. Bench back needs to be versatile, for me it’s out of Hodge and Wright with Wright leading that 2 horse race for a decent margin currently.

 

[Derpus]

True. Put To'omua at 12, Kuridrani at 13, and DHP at 15 if fit to start with though. Probably Petaia on the wing over Daugunu. Bring him, Simone, Banks/Maddocks and one or both of the young 10's into the fold off the bench v the ABs.

Just fills me with meh. TK i could handle because he brings a great defensive game to 13 and we have other attacking weapons we can use elsewhere. But To'omua? he's playing 10 and not particularly brilliantly.

 

[Derpus]

I don’t like the thought of JOC (James O'Connor) at 10. He still looks like a centre playing 10. To'omua is similar but exhibits a lot more control over the match than JOC (James O'Connor) does. His kicking isn’t great and at times very loose with the ball in hand, don’t get me wrong he has been in solid form but I think he’s been playing solid for a 12 that happens to have 10 on his back.

I really disagree with this. JOC (James O'Connor) has as much control as To'omua but creates far more. Goalkicking about par.

To'omua obviously brings a better defensive game but 10 is about the only position where that's at the bottom of the requirements.

 

[Up the Guts]

I don’t like the thought of JOC (James O'Connor) at 10. He still looks like a centre playing 10. To'omua is similar but exhibits a lot more control over the match than JOC (James O'Connor) does. His kicking isn’t great and at times very loose with the ball in hand, don’t get me wrong he has been in solid form but I think he’s been playing solid for a 12 that happens to have 10 on his back.

Petaia, JOC (James O'Connor) and MT will be in the 23 who can all cover multiple positions (JOC (James O'Connor) gives you cover for every position). That said, I’d probably favour Wright over Daugunu on the bench. I really don’t think Hodge has done anything to get near the 23.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

I really disagree with this. JOC (James O'Connor) has as much control as To'omua but creates far more. Goalkicking about par.

To'omua obviously brings a better defensive game but 10 is about the only position where that's at the bottom of the requirements.

JOC (James O'Connor) 10 and To’omua 12 and allow them to rotate - both deserve to be starting and no other obvious candidates ahead of either for 10 or 12...Simone been good but not going to start him ahead of JOC (James O'Connor) or To’omua at 12 and actually given form of both quite salvitating thought to see them at 10 and 12

 

[Derpus]

JOC (James O'Connor) 10 and To’omua 12 and allow them to rotate - both deserve to be starting and no other obvious candidates ahead of either for 10 or 12.Simone been good but not going to start him ahead of JOC (James O'Connor) or To’omua at 12 and actually given form of both quite salvitating thought to see them at 10 and 12

I would start Simone, myself.

 

[Rugbynutter39]

I would start Simone, myself.

Yeh nah....

 

[Derpus]

Yeh nah..

Starting players out of position has been a Wallabies curse for the last 10 years. Time for a player to start in the position he plays or not at all.

 

[TSR]

I would start Simone, myself.

He certainly can’t do much more to push his case. He’s been very bloody good.

 

[Sully]

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