Up the Guts
Steve Williams (59)
Rennie not happy
Wales v Australia, Sunday 21st 4.30 am ADST.
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Kenny Powers
Ron Walden (29)
I watched thru Kayo and had the Welsh commentary and let me tell you they were Phil Kearns multiplied by 3!
kiap
Steve Williams (59)
As frustrated as he was, Dave shat the bed there.
Not doing himself any favours. Will probably cop a fine.
Thing is, if Beale had tackled the Welshman instead of pleading, hands up, to the ref, we wouldn't have conceded that 2nd half try.
Effort was there for us but still mixed in with too much dumb...
Kenny Powers
Ron Walden (29)
Also interesting that World Rugby has taken up some of the rule changes trialed down here but not the 20 minute red card. Change is hard for the home unions.
Sir Arthur Higgins
Dick Tooth (41)
Watched on Dazn in NA and they were atrocious.
Lightblue
Arch Winning (36)
Agree. The replacement after 20 minutes for a red is a no brainer….the offender doesn’t come back, but the game is not totally lopsided.
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
We got to be more consistent as got momentum after beating South Africa but let a lot of that get lost after this tour. Anyhow I think we learnt we are not a top 3 side at this point.
Up the Guts
Steve Williams (59)
Yes, if it was mid season then the blow up might put pressure on the officials in the remainder of the year. No one will remember it next year.
Up the Guts
Steve Williams (59)
A lot of personnel changes from those South African victories, I can see how momentum was lost.
Joe Blow
John Hipwell (52)
It was fair. They could have gone yellow but direct contact to the head and no mitigating circumstances. The laws say red. Its absolutely on Valetini. He was always too high in the tackle.
Thalium
Bill Watson (15)
Sometime during the week as we got done for it last weekend
Kenny Powers
Ron Walden (29)
The episode shows an interesting difference between refereeing in the North compared to the South.
In Super Rugby there is a lot of talk from the Referee to the players. Helps the players correct their actions and brings a flow to the game. In Super Rugby the ref would have called it knock back. Instead we had an incident of players stopping then going what you will see in U12s not in international rugby because referee didn’t call it. That was poor from the referee.
Regardless of what you may think of rule interpretations his game management was terrible.
I think the big decisions were correct.
Valetini definitely a red under current guidelines.
Beale obviously a yellow under current guidelines.
The Welsh fry was unfortunately a try because the law is a deliberate knock on.
perhaps a few peripheral things but the big rulings were accurate.
Mitchell and Merhtens need to up date themselves with the laws. Both were petulant and embarrassing.
but we almost won and it would have been an incredible win. If Paisami had found Tate inside then a fry under the posts rather than Daugunu out wide, gives us the lead. But another dumb penalty likely would have cost us.
JOC (James O'Connor) still doesn’t look a natural 10 but played well. Paisami was terrific while the pack worked hard lead by Rodda and Tupou with Leota impressive again.
a good bounce back effort by Ikitau who played a lot more sensibly. Also a word for the European 4 who had their respective best games this tour. Beale’s card a shocker and a little lose with the carry, but he was dangerous.
still, none id bend rules for to play again.
Valetini definitely a red under current guidelines.
Beale obviously a yellow under current guidelines.
The Welsh fry was unfortunately a try because the law is a deliberate knock on.
perhaps a few peripheral things but the big rulings were accurate.
Mitchell and Merhtens need to up date themselves with the laws. Both were petulant and embarrassing.
but we almost won and it would have been an incredible win. If Paisami had found Tate inside then a fry under the posts rather than Daugunu out wide, gives us the lead. But another dumb penalty likely would have cost us.
JOC (James O'Connor) still doesn’t look a natural 10 but played well. Paisami was terrific while the pack worked hard lead by Rodda and Tupou with Leota impressive again.
a good bounce back effort by Ikitau who played a lot more sensibly. Also a word for the European 4 who had their respective best games this tour. Beale’s card a shocker and a little lose with the carry, but he was dangerous.
still, none id bend rules for to play again.
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
Ok so let’s look at that and who would have made a difference. Kerevi yes.
boyo
Mark Ella (57)
So what?
he did it every throw. I thought the same every time.
Joe Blow
John Hipwell (52)
JOC (James O'Connor) made a feeble attempt at a tackle just prior to Beales yellow. If he makes a proper attempt and makes the tackle then no card.
Valetini tackle was too high and asking for trouble if there was head contact.
Good to see Swinton putting in some big hits below the waist. He has obviously learned.
Australia once again their own worst enemy. The ref had no control of the game and may have been influenced by the crowd? Still, our stupidity and lack of discipline cost us big time again. If I was Rennie I would be giving a few of our blokes a serious serious dressing down.
JOC (James O'Connor), Wright and possibly Ikitau do not need to be in this side. Repeating stupid mistakes week in and out. KBs yellow was debatable. He was making a tackle at their time and as said, JOCs missed tackle created the situation.
A disappointing end to maybe the worst EOYT I can remember.
edit - I have been watching them since the early 70s
Valetini tackle was too high and asking for trouble if there was head contact.
Good to see Swinton putting in some big hits below the waist. He has obviously learned.
Australia once again their own worst enemy. The ref had no control of the game and may have been influenced by the crowd? Still, our stupidity and lack of discipline cost us big time again. If I was Rennie I would be giving a few of our blokes a serious serious dressing down.
JOC (James O'Connor), Wright and possibly Ikitau do not need to be in this side. Repeating stupid mistakes week in and out. KBs yellow was debatable. He was making a tackle at their time and as said, JOCs missed tackle created the situation.
A disappointing end to maybe the worst EOYT I can remember.
edit - I have been watching them since the early 70s