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VRU 2013

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KevinO

Geoff Shaw (53)
Box Hill must be glad there season is over. Seems Boroondara folding meant the top of the table levelled out a bit and the bottom two got weaker.

Last round of the season and finals places still not settled. Really just depends on Souths as you would think powerhouse to defeat uni.
 

elementfreak

Trevor Allan (34)
Last round of the year. And the following things could happen.

The games:
Home Team v Away Team Location Time
Harlequin v Endeavour Hills Harlequin / Field 1 3:10
Sth Districts v Melbourne Southern Districts / Field 1 3:10
Melbourne Uni v Power House Melbourne University / Field 1 3:10
Moorabbin v Footscray Moorabbin / Field 1 3:10
Box Hill v Bye TBA


Top 3:

Scenario 1:
1. Quins
2. Moorabbin
3. Melbourne
- All 3 teams win

Scenario 2:
1. Quins
2. Melbourne
3. Moorabbin
- Melbourne win with no BP.
- Moorabbin lose
- Quins can lose, but need a BP if Melbourne gets one.

Scenario 3:
1. Moorabbin
2. Melbourne
3. Quins
- Moorabbin and Melbourne win with bonus points
- Quins lose without a BP

Scenario 4:
1. Melbourne
2. Quins
3. Moorabbin
- Melbourne win with a BP
- Quins and Moorabbin lost without a BP



Positions 4-6

Scenario 1:
4. Footscray
5. House
6. Souths
- House need to beat Uni with Souths losing to Melbourne

Scenario 2:
4. House
5. Footscray
6. Souths
- House need to beat Uni with a BP
- Souths lose to Melbourne
- Footscray lose to Moorabbin
- The House need to win by at least 28 and have Footscray lose by at least 17

Scenario 3:
4. Souths
5. Footscray
6. House
For this to happen
- Souths need to beat Melbourne.
- House can to beat Uni with a bonus point
- Footscray can lose to Moorabbin
- The points difference between the House/Uni game and the points difference in the Moorabbin/Footscray game can't add up to more than 45 points in the winners favour.

Scenario 4:
4. Souths
5. House
6. Footscray
For this to happen
- Souths need to beat Melbourne.
- House need to beat Uni with a bonus point
- Moorabbin need to beat Footscray without Footscray getting a bonus point.
- The points difference between the House/Uni game needs to be at least 28 points and the difference in the Moorabbin/Footscray game needs to be at least 17 points.




I have probably missed some but the main message is nothing is set in stone until 4:50 on Saturday.
 

KevinO

Geoff Shaw (53)
Last round of the year. And the following things could happen.





Positions 4-6

Scenario 1:
4. Footscray
5. House
6. Souths
- House need to beat Uni with Souths losing to Melbourne


Would assume this is the way it's going to play out. Possible Morrabbin to smash Footscray as they did in Round 9 though. Going to be some interesting games.

Powerhouse - Have to win by as much as possible, pretty simple.

Souths - Know if they lose they are pretty much out.

Footscray - Can afford to lose but need to try keep it as tight as possible. Very dangerous if they try to play a tight defensive game they are not used to against Morrabbin who are in pretty good form. (Have not lost since round 8)
 

elementfreak

Trevor Allan (34)
Would assume this is the way it's going to play out. Possible Morrabbin to smash Footscray as they did in Round 9 though. Going to be some interesting games.

Powerhouse - Have to win by as much as possible, pretty simple.

Souths - Know if they lose they are pretty much out.

Footscray - Can afford to lose but need to try keep it as tight as possible. Very dangerous if they try to play a tight defensive game they are not used to against Morrabbin who are in pretty good form. (Have not lost since round 8)

You are probably right. Some of the games are going to be rip snorters.

Kev did you play at Melbourne at the weekend?
 

KevinO

Geoff Shaw (53)
You are probably right. Some of the games are going to be rip snorters.

Kev did you play at Melbourne at the weekend?


Nope, was linesman for the 2nd half of the 4ths game (Other venue). Sprained my ankle 5 weeks ago and hoping to get back this week. Only started training last week and the pitch on Saturday was to inconsistent so would have been a bit of a risk.
 

pablo

Darby Loudon (17)
Would assume this is the way it's going to play out. Possible Morrabbin to smash Footscray as they did in Round 9 though. Going to be some interesting games.

Powerhouse - Have to win by as much as possible, pretty simple.

Souths - Know if they lose they are pretty much out.

Footscray - Can afford to lose but need to try keep it as tight as possible. Very dangerous if they try to play a tight defensive game they are not used to against Morrabbin who are in pretty good form. (Have not lost since round 8)

Correct I think this is how it will play out. Can't see Souths beating Melbourne (71-0 at this stage last year I think it was, yes vastly different teams I know).

As for the top three, it doesn't really matter who goes where, the week after is going to be tough as all 4 that get through will be capable of beating each other - just the way it should be!
 

pablo

Darby Loudon (17)
Nope, was linesman for the 2nd half of the 4ths game (Other venue). Sprained my ankle 5 weeks ago and hoping to get back this week. Only started training last week and the pitch on Saturday was to inconsistent so would have been a bit of a risk.

Cracking game that one! Melbourne supporters were pretty vocal all the way up until the final whistle then stone cold silence....
 

KevinO

Geoff Shaw (53)
Cracking game that one! Melbourne supporters were pretty vocal all the way up until the final whistle then stone cold silence..

Was a good game, Ref could have done a bit more to control the game. He lost control in the Powerhouse v Moorabbin game the previous week.

Some very bad calls both ways, will be glad to get decent Ref's come finals time who actually watch the breakdown instead of taking a guess.
 

elementfreak

Trevor Allan (34)
Some very bad calls both ways, will be glad to get decent Ref's come finals time who actually watch the breakdown instead of taking a guess.


The referees have generally improved across the board, however it comes down to a numbers issue. We try to provide good referees as far down the games as possible, however with nearly 80 games a weekend when juniors and schools are on, with only 100 registered referees, it gets difficult.

Also, as terrible as it sounds, it was a 4th grade game. The VRU ranks the games in terms of importance and the last document I saw had the games ranked:
  1. Prem 1 (4 games)
  2. Prem 2 (4 games)
  3. Colts (3 games)
  4. Div 2A (3-4 games)
  5. U18 (5 games)
  6. 3rd Divison (3 games)
  7. Prem 3 (4 games)
  8. Div 2B (3-4 games)
  9. Prem 4 (4 games)
So when you look at it like that you have 30 or so games ranked before the Prem 4 games. Whist our ranks are getting better and better the depth can only go so far.

So in theory a 4th grade game should get the 31st, 32nd, 33rd, 34th ranked referees appointed to it, although with people unavailable due to injury, commitments outside of rugby, family, work etc that probably doesn't happen.

One way to get better referees is to head to a green shirt program and give it a go. I went down to help out my old club whilst I was injured and refereed for 6 months whilst playing and decided I would give up playing I enjoyed it that much.
 

KevinO

Geoff Shaw (53)
So in theory a 4th grade game should get the 31st, 32nd, 33rd, 34th ranked referees appointed to it, although with people unavailable due to injury, commitments outside of rugby, family, work etc that probably doesn't happen.

One way to get better referees is to head to a green shirt program and give it a go. I went down to help out my old club whilst I was injured and refereed for 6 months whilst playing and decided I would give up playing I enjoyed it that much.

Yeah I know it's ranked low, at least he was bad both ways. Not ready to give up playing for the whistle just yet.
 

elementfreak

Trevor Allan (34)
SOUTHERN DISTRICTS v MELBOURNE Riviera Park Eel Race Rd Seaford
The Dewar Shield match of the day is Southern Districts v Melbourne to be played at Riviera Park at 3:10pm. The match will be televised on Ch. 31 on Wednesday 28 August at 9:00pm. Southern Districts are currently in fifth position on the Dewar Shield Ladder, two points clear of sixth placed Power House. Southern Districts must win this match to ensure they finish in the top 5. If Southern Districts lose they will need to rely on results going their way. Melbourne still have the opportunity to finish in the top two, however they will require Moorabbin and Harlequin losing. Rebels’ Jason Woodward will start at Outside Centre for Southern Districts.
SOUTHERN DISTRICTS
1. Israel Lord, 2. Jarrod Eberhart, 3. Alex Lawson, 4. Dallas Kennedy, 5. Teariki Daymond, 6. Lia Noa, 7. Glen Salter, 8. Rawiri Garmonsway ©, 9. Barry Te Hiko , 10. Jarrod Dowie, 11. Noa Noa, 12. Mike Tahitua, 13. Jason Woodward, 14. Alipate Ratubuli, 15. Heine McFarland
MELBOURNE
1. Dan Corcoran, 2. Mitch Andrews, 3. Killian O'Neill, 4. Craig Charters, 5. Tim Emery, 6. Marcus Slade (C), 7. Fred Austin, 8. Peter TieTie, 9. Michael Gibson, 10. Ben Jones, 11. Esala Wikale, 12. Matt Pollen, 13. Chris Slade, 14. Karl Balemi, 15. Tim LeNevez,
REFERE Matthew Hall


MOORABBIN v FOOTSCRAY Keys Rd Reserve 90A Keys Rd Cheltenham North
Moorabbin will host Footscray in round 18 of the Dewar Shield. Moorabbin, who are currently in second position drew with Harlequin in Round 17 and will be hard to beat at home. Footscray defeated Melbourne Uni by one point in Round 17 and will need to win this match to keep their finals chances alive. Last time the two teams met, Moorabbin won by 21 points.
MOORABBIN
1 Nathaniel Iona, 2 Tui Tuiatua, 3 Lepani Naituku, 4 James King, 5 Jim Leonard, 6 Jordan Fowles, 7 Nick Sachelli, 8 Simon Brown, 9 Lualua Vailoaloa, 10 Neli Sasulu, 11 Andy Brown, 12 Frank Va’aua, 13 Brendan Todd ©, 14 Orisi Kabuyawa, 15 Malo Young-Yen
FOOTSCRAY
1 Alan Imo, 2 Sisiua Ngauamo, 3 Soane Naufahu, 4 Ikuna Tukuafu, 5 Perenise Nikolao, 6 Soasaia Tufui, 7 Tim Diack, 8 Tuipine Apineru, 9 Keisuke Yamada, 10 Martin Naufahu, 11 Isaako Tuifea, 12 Tonu Filipo, 13 Sonatane Tovia, 14 Mercy Lufe, 15 Leon Tufuga
REFEREE Beau-Dean Gosper

MELBOURNE UNI v POWER HOUSE HG Smith Oval MacArthur Rd Parkville
Melbourne Uni will host Power House in Round 18 of the Dewar Shield. Power House currently in sixth position must win this match to make the top five. Melbourne Uni lost to Footscray in Round 17 in the last play of the match. Last time these two teams met, Power House won by five points.
MELBOURNE UNI
1. James Pakoti, 2. Reg Stowers, 3. Matthew Onesemo, 4. Netani Qicatabua, 5. Mitch Dean, 6. Eddie Lusala, 7. Ryan O'Sullivan, 8. Siologa Leota, 9. Hector Thompson, 10 James Nettleton, 11. Malaki Enosa, 12. Isamaeli Time, 13. Jimmy Yates, 14. Danny Kingan, 15. Antony James
POWER HOUSE
1 Alan Latu, 2 Tom Gilbert, 3 Lucian Lauofo, 4 Tom Broughton, 5 Bryan Scott ( C ), 6 Jack Thompkins, 7 Shane Kilgour, 8 Tama Sweetman, 9 Mark Bouma, 10 Makesi Stowers, 11 Danny Hicken, 12 Albert Aiopolotea, 13 Steve Kemp, 14 Nathan Sweetman, 15 James Ben Unu
REFEREE Caleb Hamilton

HARLEQUIN v ENDEAVOUR HILLSAshwood Reserve Power Ave Ashwood
Harlequin will host Endeavour Hills in Round 18 of the Dewar Shield. Harlequin drew with Moorabbin in Round 17. Harlequin is two points clear of second placed Moorabbin and will want to win this match to secure the Minor Premiership.
HARLEQUIN
1. Dale Stevenson, 2. James Api, 3. Tim Ridgeway, 4. Paul Graham, 5. Angus Hamilton, 6. Zac Dixon, 7. Jack De Guingand, 8. Niko Lauina, 9. Craig McGrath, 10. Maradona Farao, 11. Victor Vitaliano, 12. Majokah Schuster, 13. Basil Api, 14. Justin Tavea, 15. Justin Marsters
ENDEAVOUR HILLS
1. David Savea, 2. Mathew Logofiti, 3. Ata Manu, 4. Tim O’Bryan, 5. Connor Hallewell, 6..Poieva Sita, 7 Fenika Amataga, 8. MannI T’eo, 9. Junior Paila, 10. Milfi Taileipu, 11. Iviolo Ivilio, 12. Lemi Faimoa, 13. Quinten Williams, 14. Jason Lam, 15. Micheal Tupai
REFEREE Darren O'Brien

DEWAR SHIELD LADDER After ROUND 17​
P​
W​
D​
L​
F​
A​
BP 4t​
BP <7p​
Bye​
Pts​
%
Harlequin
15​
12​
1​
2​
559​
275​
10​
0​
2​
68​
203.27%
Moorabbin
15​
11​
1​
3​
546​
284​
11​
1​
2​
66​
192.25%
Melbourne
15​
11​
0​
4​
528​
278​
11​
1​
2​
64​
189.93%
Footscray
15​
10​
0​
5​
472​
279​
6​
2​
2​
56​
169.18%
Sth Districts
15​
7​
2​
6​
534​
389​
10​
3​
2​
53​
137.28%
Power House
15​
8​
1​
6​
435​
297​
6​
3​
2​
51​
146.46%
Melbourne Uni
15​
4​
1​
10​
340​
517​
7​
4​
2​
37​
65.76%
Endeavour Hills
15​
2​
0​
13​
237​
598​
3​
1​
2​
20​
39.63%
Box Hill
16​
0​
0​
16​
173​
907​
1​
0​
1​
5​
19.07%
 

elementfreak

Trevor Allan (34)
Ladder has finished like this:
Team P BYE W D L F A BP PTS %
1st Harlequin 18 2 13 1 2 600 296 11 73 202.70
2nd Melbourne 18 2 12 4 559 305 13 69 183.3
3rd Moorabbin 18 2 11 1 4 570 311 14 68 183.28
4th Footscray 18 2 11 5 499 303 9 61 164.69
5th Power House 18 2 9 1 6 473 322 10 56 146.89
6th Southern Districts 18 2 7 2 8 561 420 14 54 133.57
7th Melbourne Uni 18 2 4 1 11 365 555 11 37 65.77
8th Endeavour Hills 18 2 2 14 258 639 4 20 40.38
9th Box Hill 18 2 16 173 907 1 9 19.07

Footscray v Power House this weekend.
 

elementfreak

Trevor Allan (34)
Finals games this weekend that I think are happening.

U18
Power House v Souths
Moorabbin v Endeavour Hills

Premier 1
Footscray v Power House

Premier 2
Footscray v Melbourne Uni

Premier 3
Moorabbin v Endeavour Hills
 

KevinO

Geoff Shaw (53)
Finals games this weekend that I think are happening.

U18
Power House v Souths
Moorabbin v Endeavour Hills

Premier 1
Footscray v Power House

Premier 2
Footscray v Melbourne Uni

Premier 3
Moorabbin v Endeavour Hills


The Three premier games are all at Footscray.

Premier 3 - 11:45am
Premier 2 - 1:15pm
Premier 1 - 3:00pm

The under 18's are both at Moorabbin at 12:30pm
 

elementfreak

Trevor Allan (34)
You heading down to Footscray Kev?


DEWAR SHIELD
Harlequin has claimed the Dewar Shield Minor Premiership after defeating Endeavour Hills 41-21 at home in the final home and away round of 2013.
Harlequin, who has been dominant for the majority of the 2013, scored seven tries to Endeavor Hills’ three to wrap up the 20 point victory.
Junior Paila, Fred Sa and Lemi Faimo stood out for Endeavour Hills in their final match of the season, with the side finishing eighth on the ladder with two wins and 14 losses for 2013.
Zachary Dixon, Basil Api Ulugia and Dale Stevenson were best on ground for Harlequin, who finished comfortably on top of the ladder with 73 points from 13 wins, one draw and two losses.
Southern Districts have narrowly missed out on a finals position in this week’s Match of the Round after a tough loss to second placed Melbourne at home.
Southern Districts lead Melbourne 17-12 at half time, however were unable to hold on to the lead in a seesawing second half, with Melbourne eventually taking a 27-31 victory over the Pirates. This has left them in 6th position and only one point out of the Dewar Shield Finals.
Highlights from the match can be seen on Rugby Time, 9pm Wednesday night on Channel 31.
Power House locked up their position in the finals after defeating Melbourne University 25-38.
Albert Aiopoletea scored three tries for the visitors, with Shane Kilgour, Tama Sweetman and Nathan Sweetman also scoring for Power House. Makesi Stowers extended their lead with four conversions.
Moli Sooaemalelagi crossed the line twice for Mebourne University with Malaki Enosa and Danny Kingan also scoring for the home side. Forwards Eddie Lusala and Ryan O’Sullivan joined Sooaemalelagi amongst the best for Melbourne University. Shane Kilgour, Bryan Scott and Gab Navuni all impressed for Power House.
In the final match of round 18, Moorabbin hosted Footscray, narrowly going down to the visitors 24-27. The win secures fourth place for Footscray, while Moorabbin have dropped to third position and will now play away to Melbourne in the Semi Finals on September 14.
Footscray will host Power House in this week’s Qualifying Final, with the winner to play Harlequin in the Semi Finals.
SECOND DIVISION
Northern have locked away the Second Division A Grade Minor Premiership with a round to go after defeating Eltham 10-52.
Northern scored eight tries to Eltham’s one in a dominant performance. Eddie Paletoga scored three tries for the visitors with Ilaisa Makoni accurate in front of goal with six conversions. Gert Venter was the sole try scorer for Eltham.
Geelong travelled to Monash University where they have recorded a comprehensive 0-79 victory.
Eltham will have the bye in Round 19, while Geelong will host Melbourne and Northern will host Monash University.
In the B grade Northern defeated Eltham 5-46, Maroondah have retained the Westgate Cup in a big win over Geelong and Melton beat Melbourne.
The Second Division plays a 19 round home and away season, with their finals commencing on September 7.
REGIONAL
Border Army have recorder their third win of the season with a big victory over Ballarat at home, 48-29.
Chris Carlton, Brendan Maley and Bradley Nayler scored two tries each, with Carlton also scoring three conversions. Mat Dewar scored three tries for Ballarat in the loss.
Shepparton have continued their strong form, securing the Minor Premiership after travelling to Warrnambool to record a 0-28 victory.
Bendigo hosted Puckapunyal, defeating the visitors 28-0.
Next week Warrnambool host Puckapunyal, Bendigo travel to Ballarat and Border Army take on Shepparton, with the first round of Regional Finals to begin on September 7.
WOMENS
Power House has hosted Endeavour Hills in Round 14 of the Women’s competition, recording a comprehensive 78-0 victory.
Michelle Witte scored four tries for the home side, with Niki Cook scoring nine conversions. Carolyn Gray and Nina Foaese also stood out for Power House.
Velma George, Awhina Montgomery and Stacey Vernon stood out for Endeavour Hills in the loss.
In the other women’s matches, Northern went down to Melbourne 0-28 at home, and Western Districts defeated the combined Southern Districts Box Hill side 7-14.
 

KevinO

Geoff Shaw (53)
Was a great game of rugby yesterday, Powerhouse defeated Footscray 15-12. Footscray had the chances early but struggled get the points. Powerhouse scored 2 try's early in the second half and than defended as Footscray attacked from everywhere.

Any chance Hegarty is able to play finals, Powerhouse number 10 was knocked out and it didn't look to good for him.
 
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