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UCal drops Rugby from top tier of sports funding

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RugbyFuture

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Apparently the team was one of the most successful varsity teams of any sport in the united states, witha 90% pass rate of its players at the uni and has an average GPA of 3.0 (i dunno what its out of) but they're cutting and most of the comments seem to be blaming something called "title 9" the good news is that its not being cut completely and apparently it was close to self sustaining anyway.

Will this have an effect on USA Rugby?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/09/28/SPP31FL0IP.DTL

Cal eliminates baseball; rugby loses varsity status

John Crumpacker, Chronicle Staff Writer
San Francisco Chronicle September 28, 2010 01:40 PM Copyright San Francisco Chronicle. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Baseball and three other varsity sports teams are being eliminated and men's rugby is being reassigned to "varsity club" status by Cal as part of moves that will save the athletic department $4 million.

In a 2:30 p.m. news conference today on the Berkeley campus, Chancellor Robert Birgeneau and athletic director Sandy Barbour will jointly announce that men's and women's gymnastics and lacrosse (women) will also be cut, leaving Cal with 22 varsity sports.

All told, 163 of the university's 814 intercollegiate student-athletes will be impacted by today's decision. As well, 13 full-time coaches will be out of jobs, saving the department $1.1 million. "Clearly, this is a painful outcome after months of deliberation, analysis and the examination of every viable alternative," Barbour said in a statement released by the university. "I deeply regret the impact this will have on so many valued members of our community."

The athletic department under Barbour has operated at a deficit of $10-13 million for several years, a gap made up by the chancellor's discretionary fund and student fees. The university's goal is to reduce campus sport to athletics to $5 million by 2014, a total it believes is "sustainable."

According to the university, Cal's athletic department budget for 2010 was $69 million. University officials anticipate greater revenue to be realized from a new television contract to be negotiated in 2011 that will reflect the expansion to the Pac-12 Conference with the additions of Utah and Colorado.

Men's rugby, the most successful sports team in school history with 25 national championships since 1980, received special consideration by the highest levels of the university and a new category was created for it, a "varsity club" tier.

While rugby will no longer be part of intercollegiate athletics at Cal after the 2010-11 academic year, it will continue to receive campus support. The rugby team will have access to existing training facilities and sports medicine services, and admission slots will be made available for recruited, non-scholarship students.

"This will allow rugby to compete at and maintain the same high level of national and international excellence which it currently enjoys while becoming self-sustaining," Birgeneau wrote in a letter addressed to "students, faculty, staff, alumni, supporters and friends of Cal."

"In addition to these ... reductions, Intercollegiate Athletics will continue to work to reduce the growth of expenses ... and to raise income through fundraising and other avenues of targeted investment such as television revenue."

The university will continue to honor scholarship commitments to student-athletes in the affected sports who choose to remain at Berkeley, up to four years. Athletes in sports that will be eliminated are also free to transfer to another school and be eligible to compete right away, without having to sit out a year as is normally required of transfer students.

While rugby is well funded and nearly self-sustaining, its roster of 61 men further skewed the athletic department's figures regarding gender equity, giving Cal about 150 more male athletes than female.

Today's cuts will eliminate 118 male student-athletes all told, 61 in rugby, 38 in baseball and 19 in men's gymnastics. Forty-five women are affected by the move as well, 30 in lacrosse and 15 in gymnastics.
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
According to Cal Coach Jack Clark Cal Rugby is completely self funded via its alumni and commercial interests. From what I have been able to muster this won't actually impact their program too significantly. What is surprising is that Cal cut its Baseball program. Shows the prestige in which holds at the school. According to one American Rugby fan if they had cut Rugby completely as they have with Baseball the backlash would have been severe as many of Cal's biggest and most successful Alumni who contribute regularly are directly linked with the Rugby program.

As for the 3.0 GPA. It's out of 4.0. For an athletic program to achieve these results is evidently quite impressive academically.
 

Newb

Trevor Allan (34)
that's disappointing from a yank point of view. they really are the premier usa college program and many of their players go on to representative honors.

a peak at the list of former champs will make their dominance obvious http://www.calbears.com/sports/m-rugby/archive/cal-m-rygby-champs.html

it's good to hear that they won't be going under because of it. i would think they'd have enough outside support that they weren't ever in much trouble of that. overall, i don't think it will change much, but the danger is if other less-sustainable programs also get budget cuts. college programs are very important over here for building development and spreading the game.

side note: Title IX is an initiative that started out to eliminate gender preference. a large affect of this has been seen in high school and college sports, though not specifically mentioned as part of the initiative. the reason is that funding for male and female sports programs has to be "balanced". i'm not sure of the ratio or even how it's figured out. but what happens is that sometimes to shift more funding towards women's sports, a male sports program suffers.
 

stoff

Trevor Allan (34)
The season results for those guys are pretty incredible. 32 games with 1 loss, 1807 points for, 221 points against. Obviously there is a huge gap between the best and the worst in US college Rugby, but that is still impressive. Let alone winning 25 from 31 national titles.

So apart from BYU who seemed to have featured pretty heavily in the last 6 or so years, how many other US colleges get seriously into Rugby?
 

en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
The season results for those guys are pretty incredible. 32 games with 1 loss, 1807 points for, 221 points against. Obviously there is a huge gap between the best and the worst in US college Rugby, but that is still impressive. Let alone winning 25 from 31 national titles.

So apart from BYU who seemed to have featured pretty heavily in the last 6 or so years, how many other US colleges get seriously into Rugby?

This record will change quite a bit with the new college league structure. Which will be great for USA rugby.

I'm considering going on exchange to one of the colleges in 2012 and have been looking into it.
 

Lindommer

Simon Poidevin (60)
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Title IX is an initiative that started out to eliminate gender preference. A large effect of this has been seen in high school and college sports, though not specifically mentioned as part of the initiative. The reason is that funding for male and female sports programs has to be "balanced". I'm not sure of the ratio or even how it's figured out. But what happens is that sometimes to shift more funding towards women's sports a male sports program suffers.

This has an interesting, and unexpected, side-effect in Australia. US universities have many and varied sports scholarships open to all comers. To get the gender balance even some Septic unis have ploughed significant resources into women's rowing, which has opened up opportunites for young elite female Australian rowers to have an education their male peers don't have the equivalent access to. There're quite a few ex-students from Pymble Ladies' College, Merton Hall, etc. paddling around North American lakes. But very few, if any, Old Boys from Shore, Scotch or Hale in the boys' boats.
 

RugbyFuture

Lord Logo
This record will change quite a bit with the new college league structure. Which will be great for USA rugby.

I'm considering going on exchange to one of the colleges in 2012 and have been looking into it.

yeh my mate has been looking into it too (even though he's a leaguey) and trying to get me to have a look (even though im mediocre at best), but i have an uncle who is fairly high up at Boston Uni so theres the advantage maybe.
 

en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
yeh my mate has been looking into it too (even though he's a leaguey) and trying to get me to have a look (even though im mediocre at best), but i have an uncle who is fairly high up at Boston Uni so theres the advantage maybe.

Want to hook me up? Haha.

But seriously there is only 1 college in the league who is a direct affiliate with my Uni so that's the one I'm most considering.
 

RugbyFuture

Lord Logo
yeh but i go to the university of western sydney, so you can't avoid those types of things, plus im making headway in getting him to convert and repent
 

en_force_er

Geoff Shaw (53)
yeh but i go to the university of western sydney, so you can't avoid those types of things, plus im making headway in getting him to convert and repent

Haha, do it! What club do you play at?

I'm sure your not that bad of a player. Plus you said you are a prop?

A prop that is a good technical scrummager is just a good conditioning program away from being a good player.
 

RugbyFuture

Lord Logo
don't play for a club currently, havent found the right one...

need to get my fitness back up though, its all gone since leaving school

i wish i was dan palmer (cept for the playing for southern districts part)
 

RugbyFuture

Lord Logo
yeh, i do know that most of the boys from my school end up playing for lindfield in sydney as they do for comenarra cricket club in cricket, sorta like the old boys club without any officiality, but don't wanna play for them. i'll be living in norths territory soon.
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
i wish i was dan palmer

Don't we all? Good ol' Potplant lives the good life. Stumble around the field yawning and such, then wander over to a scrum to smash your opposite number.

Quit procrastinating and get this UWS team off the ground!
 

RugbyFuture

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HAC are so politically opposed to it and the NSWRU restructured in the middle of my plans, way to hard for one person, only have 2 years left now.

I tried getting in contact with UWSHAC rugby to see if theyd like to form an internal feeder team and associated club system, where they set up teams at the various campuses and use them as lower grade teams, whilst retaining the HAC team as the top tier team, but they didn't answer
 

DPK

Peter Sullivan (51)
That's sad to hear. It's obviously a monumental challenge for one man to set up a team on his own though. I'd help but I have no idea what to do ::)
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
enforcer

Utah and Colorado take it reasonably seriously these days. St Mary's has a good history of competiveness as well. Penn State are always at the pointy end of the National Championship. We'll have to wait and see if the CPL benfits Rugby in the States. Melville recently hinted at a few interesting announcement regarding the League so hopefully that means both sponsorship and broadcasting.
 
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