Thoughts about the Brumbies

[Gagger]

The Brumbies surely put this team together on the smell of an oily rag. Imagine what could happen if they open up the war chest

 

[Empire]

The Brumbies surely put this team together on the smell of an oily rag. Imagine what could happen if they open up the war chest

I'm sceptical about a 'war chest' - they probably burned quite a bit last year with Elsom, Giteau and co. They also frequently need a local club to stump up cash to assist with getting rep sides on the park - not really the way the relationship is meant to work.

A few AGM reports wouldn't go astray, but as you may know, the Brumbies aren't known for their transperency regarding this issue.

Maybe Jake could change this?

 

[Linebacker_41]

The Brumbies surely put this team together on the smell of an oily rag. Imagine what could happen if they open up the war chest

Apparently they spent the war chest on a "kitchen"!

Sorry - couldnt resist that one.

Honestly - I would find it hard to imagine that they have a large war chest. Their season last year was terrible - they paid a number of players a lot of money with no success and the crowds didnt come to the game.

Someone more Brumbies orientated please correct me if I am wrong, but I dont think that the crowd numbers have been consistently large enough to recoup the losses of last year.

 

[Slim 293]

Crowds seemed to pick up this year but would still be considered a disappointment compared to years gone by.......

It didn't help that we dropped a few home games this year.

They just need to keep winning next year, but more importantly make Canberra Stadium the fortress it once was.......

 

[Ghibli]

Hats off to White and the young Brumbies, they played a season beyond anyone expectations.
They've learned a few lessons along the way, including the one with the Blues (and the Tahs for mine, where they should have really pulverised the opposition but instead they played a percentage game). In the end they had a very astute game plan, which worked most of the times. To play finals & win, however, you need more. You need players to take more responsibility on the pitch, to be able to make decisions that move away from the game plan if that is what is neeeded, because the plan is not working. Against the Blues the Brums' kicking game was suicide, but they frustratingly persisted till the end.

You also need to play with your hart, and intensity. The game plan alone will not take you over the line.
You need players willing to take the game by the scruff of the neck and change its momentum.
For me the turning point of the Brums' season was the loss of Lilo. It was never the same after that.
This said, an outstanding season for a team expected to pick up the wooden spoon by many experts.

 

[RoffsChoice]

What the Brumbies showed this year (and the Reds in 2010) is that Australia does have the cattle. What we are lacking is quality coaching and utilising the cattle we have efficiently.

The coaches are just in the wrong place. Foley is the best defensive coach I know in Super Rugby and McKenzie doesn't have the same effect at a game when he is talking through a walkie-talkie.

We are in no way short on cattle. The only place we're a bit lacking is Hookers, Scrum Halves and Opensides.

I'd also like to see an effort to address the unbalanced nature of the John I Dent Cup, but I won't hold my breath on this, especially with the Vikings being significant sponsors of the Brumbies.

Gungahlin is giving them a run for their money this year. Shame about Royals and Uni Norths, they both really fell apart in the last three years.

It was quite distressing seeing Holmes play yesterday with his arm hanging off a buggered shoulder. He just couldn't tackle. Painful all round.

I happened to be on the bench after winning a competition with the Canberra Times, Tony (the Manager) kept asking if Holmes was okay and asked Bernie to check on him. He didn't want to come off and though he was still okay.

Would love to see coleman have a run at 12 outside lilo next season.

McCabe at 13, or on the bench? I think Coleman is a very talented fullback, he should be there more often. A reliable 7.5 is better than a 5 that sometimes hits 9.

Someone more Brumbies orientated please correct me if I am wrong, but I dont think that the crowd numbers have been consistently large enough to recoup the losses of last year.

About 14000 a match. Not in as much trouble as the Waratahs. If I'm not mistaken, UC really saved the team.

 

[Ash]

The Brumbies' sponsorship dollars would've also been much lower this year - can't imagine they'd get a lot from Canberra University and SG Fleet (the government car fleet body). I can't imagine they'd have a big war chest, despite them probably having the lowest wage bill.

First on the Brumbies' shopping list should be a nice big corporate sponsor, and with their improved performance this year you'd think they should be able to find one. Then put the sponsorship dollars to good use and get the Pococks to fill their holes.

 

[Bowside]

McCabe at 13, or on the bench? I think Coleman is a very talented fullback, he should be there more often. A reliable 7.5 is better than a 5 that sometimes hits 9.

Coleman lit up the U20's at 12 a couple of years ago, I wouldn't drop McCabe for him but maybe shift him to 13.

Do any of the insiders know if they brumbies have a new sponsor in the pipeline?

 

[Slim 293]

Winning the Australian conference would've made this sweeter, but I guess it's already sweet enough:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/s...tralias-brumbies/story-e6frf4qu-1226273898513

2012 Super Rugby season preview with Fox Sports rugby expert Greg Clark: Australia's Brumbies

We continue our countdown to the Super Rugby season by looking at the Brumbies, the team Greg Clark predicts will finish fifth in the Australian conference.

The Adjudicator: There’s some dark clouds forming in Canberra and I’m not talking about the ones hovering above the red-haired woman who favours the pant-suit. That’s right, folks, The Adjudicator has a few concerns about the 2012 edition of Australia’s most-successful Super Rugby franchise. Sure, Jake White has won a Rugby World Cup, but Super Rugby is a vastly different beast and with so many Gen Ys in the squad, I’m not sure he knows enough about iPads and Flo Rida to get the best out of his playing group. What’s a computer and recording artist got to do with rugby you ask? Well, folks, these crazy kids like to listen to music before they run on. Will they listen to White though? I have my doubts.

 

[Brumbies Guy]

Also this one from Growden.

It's not all White at the Brumbies
Greg Growden March 09, 2012
http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/its-not-all-white-at-the-brumbies-20120308-1uncv.html

Gone are the days when the Brumbies were the trendsetters of Australian rugby. Now they have turned into the Bumbling Brumbies comedy act, losing players, fans and struggling for coaching stability. Last year, the Brumbies got rid of their coach Andy Friend after a few rounds, and this year their coach Jake White may soon get rid of them. The Brumbies sent out an intriguing media release yesterday explaining that White had told them he had been ''sounded out'' for the England coaching job. Brumbies chief executive Andrew Fagan admitted he was ''naturally disappointed with the disruption'' caused by the speculation. White, who startled Brumbies elders by not making Stephen Moore his captain, was not at yesterday's team announcement, and will also be absent from today's captain's run. The media were yesterday told to limit their questions to one - and to skipper Ben Mowen only. This directive apparently came from ''the coaching staff''. In spite of White's disappearing act, the word remains another South African - Nick Mallett - will coach England. And White remaining Brumbies coach until the end of 2015? Yeah right.

 

[mudskipper]

the brumbies had a great season, pity about the end but the Reds, bulls and sharks pulled it together just enough to claw their why back up the table, Congrats to them all and I hope the reds win this coming weekend against the Sharks.

Even at the start of the season I was worried about the Brumbies last game against the Blues. It reminded me of the Highlanders game a few seasons ago where they lost and didn't make the finals by a point. I've seen those unpredictable NZers fire up for their last season match before and play their best rugby as they're playing for contracts and pride...

Saturday was the only Brumbies match I missed this year as I took the kids to the snow (school holidays) Standing in a blizzard on top of the Snowy Mountains I a change felt in the weather and a change in their luck... I can’t explain it I just felt it… On the way back I didn’t want to know the score as I just had a bad feeling about this match... I guess I'll catch a rerun during the week and suck it up as a proud brumbies supporter...

Notwithstanding I was very impressed with the new Brumbies 2012 squad and Coaching team and as a fan I congratulate them all for an exciting season... I can't wait for 2013 kick off, where the lads will be even better and more experienced... They really unearthed some real rugby talent this season. They will get stronger and they will learn from last Saturday...

Looking back at the season, it was the Reds win in Canberra that was the key loss the Brumbies couldn’t afford... IF they denied the Reds those points they would have had a home semis... they lost that match by a single point 13-12.

They together have brought back a new found respect to the Brumbies jersey from Fans to Opponents... and that’s wonderful... Furthermore I hear their preseason has already started and Pocock is speaking to Julia ...


http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...bies-in-canberra/story-fn8t7efs-1226367913143

 

[TOCC]

The Brumbies success is a good thing for the wider Australian rugby community

 

[PaarlBok]

Hard luck to the Brumbies, they were full value all season and came one game short to a well deserve play off spot. Pretty sure they will be back next season.

 

[Gagger]

Apparently they spent the war chest on a "kitchen"!

Sorry - couldnt resist that one.

Honestly - I would find it hard to imagine that they have a large war chest. Their season last year was terrible - they paid a number of players a lot of money with no success and the crowds didnt come to the game.

Someone more Brumbies orientated please correct me if I am wrong, but I dont think that the crowd numbers have been consistently large enough to recoup the losses of last year.

I've been told that Uni deal is actually pretty bloody big and that the land sale re-development is going to have them richer than jesus

 

[Braveheart81]

Yeah, I've heard they splurged on Spokey Dokeys for Dan Palmer and Matt To'omua's postie bikes.

 

[Linebacker_41]

I've been told that Uni deal is actually pretty bloody big and that the land sale re-development is going to have them richer than jesus

Well that certainly makes more sense then.

 

[Jnor]

Yeah, I've heard they splurged on Spokey Dokeys for Dan Palmer and Matt To'omua's postie bikes.

I feel sorry for that poor Honda. For the sake of mechanical sympathy get something with a few more horses (brumbies) Dan!

 

[Empire]

I've been told that Uni deal is actually pretty bloody big and that the land sale re-development is going to have them richer than jesus

The question around the traps is not that the development is worth a considerable amount, but who will get what from the resulting product. Owing to the fact that the Brumbies didn't have a huge amount of capital, developers have come to the party - so how much the Brumbies actually end up with is anyone's guess.

I hope that the money resulting is spent carefully. Very carefully.

 

[mudskipper]

I'd like to see them stay in Griffith... it’s become a part of their culture having a HQ in the leafy Manuka district...the players love it...

The land development consortium has specialist partners which is needed to ensure the project is successful. The Brumbies are astutely using an asset to create long-term wealth for the club, a first in OZ super rugby.... They chose to do this over putting in a poker machine place and call it a rugby club which is responsible…

I’d also like to see Canberra stadium finished or better still a new purpose built (covered) rectangular field built closer to the city, that would be fantastic... Perhaps around near the old Canberra pool…

 

[Brumbies Guy]

I'd like to see them stay in Griffith. it’s become a part of their culture having a HQ in the leafy Manuka district.the players love it.

The land development consortium has specialist partners which is needed to ensure the project is successful. The Brumbies are astutely using an asset to create long-term wealth for the club, a first in OZ super rugby.. They chose to do this over putting in a poker machine place and call it a rugby club which is responsible…

I’d also like to see Canberra stadium finished or better still a new purpose built (covered) rectangular field built closer to the city, that would be fantastic. Perhaps around near the old Canberra pool…

City promised new stadium with roof by 2020
Chris Dutton March 03, 2012

Forsyth Barr Stadium in Dunedin has a roof similar to the one envisioned for the new Canberra Stadium. Photo: Supplied

Canberra will have a new rectangular stadium with a clear, polymer roof by the end of the decade.
The Canberra Times can reveal the ACT government has started working with architects on designing a replacement for Canberra Stadium, with the University of Canberra emerging as a surprise potential location.
Sport Minister Andrew Barr was in New Zealand with Territory Venues general manager Neale Guthrie this week on a fact-finding mission at Forsyth Barr Stadium in Dunedin.

He said the capital could benefit from copying the design for a multi-sport and multi-purpose venue, adding a roof was essential for the new venue.
The $A150 million Forsyth Barr Stadium has a permanent capacity of 20,000 with the ability to increase to 30,500 seats with a 37-metre high roof made of a strong fluorine-based plastic. It can host rugby union, rugby league and soccer matches as well as concerts and conventions.
Mr Barr is keen to start a ''stadium fund'' for the planning and building process which is expected to be complete in 2018 or 2019.
The first priority is settling on a location and the Government has five options:
■ Build on the current Canberra Stadium site;
■ Build adjacent to Canberra Stadium;
■ Create a new precinct at West Basin with a potential convention complex and the proposed Australia Forum;
■ Build a stadium on the site of the Civic Pool adjacent to the convention centre, or;
■ Create a sporting precinct at UC.
Mr Barr was impressed by Forsyth Barr Stadium and its close relationship with the University of Otago. UC has expressed its desire to become the sporting hub of Canberra and the ACT Brumbies could move their base to the campus in the coming years.
He will meet new federal sports minister Kate Lundy in the coming weeks about proposed upgrades at Manuka Oval and the new rectangular venue.
''It's an absolute no brainer of getting a facility that provides that level of spectator comfort,'' Mr Barr said.
''When you're indoors, it opens up facility use for different purposes.''
The stadium would need to be able to create revenue with a hotel on site as well as becoming a possible transport hub.
The stadium would also sell corporate suites in advance to guarantee revenue and Mr Barr wants private sector support to boost public funding.
''You would have the co-location of a hotel on site so there's capacity for revenue coming in 365 days, not just game day,'' Mr Barr said.
''We're using the same architects as Dunedin and we'll learn from their experiences.''
The government will continue minor upgrades to Canberra Stadium and Manuka Oval will also get a significant revamp. The first priority is to get lights at Manuka Oval as part of a $30-40 million upgrade over four years including new stands and covered seating.