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The ranting at Deans/ARU/O'Neill/Players thread

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Darby Loudon (17)
Sack JON if you can find him (check the boardroom of Star Casino), Sack Matt Carroll if you can find him, sack Nucifora the brilliant director of High Perfomance who coached our under 20s to 8th in the under 20 world cup, stuffed up the academies and assisted Deans at the world cup and then supposebly reviewed the performance. Sack Deans.
Mr John Eales (great player and great captain.) You are on the ARU board you were there when Deans was re appointed pre the world cup, you were there when Jon took on the role of Chairman of Echo whilst a so called full time employee of the ARU. Please stand up and explain to the rugby supporters of Australia, what the hell the board is doing! Who the hell is running rugby in this country? What is the vision of the ARU for the Wallabies, Super Rugby, Australian Sevens rugby, Academies and under 20s and grass roots club rugby. Who is going to be the next ceo, what is the process for replacing Jon and when. We dont want to hear that it takes money etc etc we all understand that but tell us what the fuck the plan is. This isnt a question just because of the latest wallaby result this is because I havnt heard from anyone in Australian Rugby that actually knows? Please Mr Eales fill us all in. Please assure us the board are all over this and have a master plan.
 
Inside Shoulder

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Something we should all agree on:

"Deans's five-year reign in charge of the Wallabies will end, with Ewen McKenzie the man who should take over

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/a...fter-latest-kiwi-debacle-20120826-24uel.html#"

I thought this was the best short example of how bad GG is.
In one breath he asserts as a fact that deans reign will end: you could be forgiven for thinking he has been given a tip.
In the next he speculates as to a replacement, negating, in my view, any suggestion that the first proposition has any greater basis than the view being expressed on GGR - he's just speculating.
What rubbish journalism: the first sentence makes it a news story but the second is mere opinion.
If this clean out comes to pass can GG be part of the deal?
And how come every other senior journalist at the SMH has gone but not GG?
Not having an intelligent independent voice in the mainstream media to keep the ARU on its toes is not helping Oz rugby either.




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gel

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Ken Catchpole (46)
I really hope that what I have been reading about the Wallabies (thinking that the all black performance was the best in the last 10 years and any side would have lost against them) is not true.

If it is, then I feel that Deans and the Wallabies are in for a serious reality lesson at the hands of the Boks and Pumas in the coming weeks.

That display by the ABs on the weekend was far from their best.
 
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Ward Prentice (10)
gel said:
I really hope that what I have been reading about the Wallabies (thinking that the all black performance was the best in the last 10 years and any side would have lost against them) is not true.

If it is, then I feel that Deans and the Wallabies are in for a serious reality lesson at the hands of the Boks and Pumas in the coming weeks.

That display by the ABs on the weekend was far from their best.
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Agree totally. I mean wtf?! Why bother running onto the field at all. Seems like the coach and many of the Wallabies have just given up because the All Blacks are too good. Basically, if the All Blacks play well, we accept we can't beat them. Where are the plans to disrupt the All Blacks game and put some pressure on them. Not even a hint of "well we came into this game thinking that if we do [insert some sort of plan], we could give them a real test and see if they deserve that no.1 tag". More like "well we tried, but come on, these guys are much bigger, stronger and more talented than us and we have a lot of injuries and were bit jet lagged and my fingers were sore from crunching out 78 tweets before the game. At least we are no.2 and we got some great autographs after the game."
 
Pedrolicus

Pedrolicus

Dick Tooth (41)
I really feel Deans has to go, I can't stand all this talk about how we should wait and judge on the entire championship. Everyone knows if you sack a coach the team wins the next match, do it now and give us a chance about the Boks. I was all for Deans until the WC where he showed a real lack of creativity, it was worse than boring old Connelly, but at least he knew when to leave.
 
Lior

Lior

Herbert Moran (7)
His stats are very, very poor. We have better coaches on offer here in the name of Ewen McKenzie. We also have lost against Scotland and Samoa AT home. Deans' record is piss poor.

What pisses most Australians off is the way in which he was reappointed. Before the RWC, where we were very, very lucky to even be in that Semi-Final and he had his contract re-signed after such a poor 4 years. I think the way John O'Neil treated the process was unbelievable where he didn't even instigate a review headed by someone like Clive Woodward or Jake White with John Eales or someone like that involved. Someone needs to pull these current Wallabies head in. We have a good bunch of players, who are just generally more preoccupied with their brand and their Twitter accounts. Look at how Quade Cooper acts it is nothing short of disgusting at times. His spat with Richie McCaw could have shown how he could have been better than him. But instead he went further in the gutter than McCaw ever did. (Being said NZ don't exactly have the greatest hospitality towards Australian's these days. RWC was an embarrassment with much of their conduct)

The Wallabies have produced such amazing players before ranging from the most dignified in John Eales. To someone who shows humility and was a team player in Stephen Larkham. They legitimately made you feel proud to be a Wallabies supporter, whether it was watching Eales' show graciousness in defeat and in win or whether it was Stephen Larkham scoring a freakish try and just putting the ball down and not being a grandstanding clown like we see in Quade Cooper or in Chris Ashton. It's like we need those blokes in to really show what it is to play for the Wallabies, who on their day used to be one of Australia's most loved teams.

I don't dispute that the AB's are better than us but we should be competitive. We should be able to come close to them.

Deans cannot possibly be allowed to continue with his despicable record and his shithouse strategies which are exposed as fraudulent and transparent at the same time (who on earth knew you could combine those two words in the same sentence). Sack him immediately after the Rugby Championship.
 
Swat

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Chilla Wilson (44)
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BarneySF

BarneySF

Bob Loudon (25)
Back to the topic of coaches at the end of their careers -- just read on the Roar some article that Spiro wrote on the end of McQueen's reign, saying he suffered ridicule and scorn from the senior players in the end. Is this a well documented story? I thought McQueens time was nothing but wine and roses leading up to Eddie???
 
vidiot

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John Solomon (38)
I am as happy as the next guy (maybe not Gnostic) to blame Robbie Deans for all that ails Australian rugby, but I did have a couple of thoughts as I watched the second half this arvo.

1) I personally think Cooper at 85% is better at 10 than Barnes, and in some ways Cooper in his shell is a better player than Cooper when he is most disinhibited. But even I can see that he is not at peak fitness, and I can see why Deans was reluctant to run him.

2) So many wallabies are not in form and/or fit. That is not his fault. Beale, O'Connor, Cooper; Robinson, Horwill, Palu, Pocock; Barnes, McCabe, Mitchell..... Even those he can drag on to the field are either not at peak fitness or are coming off ordinary seasons of wretched form in franchises that seem to be self-destructing. Or both.

3) The lack of composure in Bled 1 and 2 feeds off 2). Composure and decision-making as a side in the massive games that are bledisloe cup games cannot be coached in a couple of camps, when the players didn't show it through the entire season. They're young and they are off balance. The all blacks don't give a sucker an even break.

Anyhow, that's about enough of that. We seem to re-enacting Gallipoli every game against the All Blacks because our coach thinks the Turks have the high ground and we have no answer. I would like for our coach to have a better plan than that, even if it fails.
 
Gagger

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
Staff member
Inside Shoulder said:
A former Wallabies' rugby coach says attacks on Robbie Deans are unfair.​

The associated poll asks "
Should the Wallabies ditch Robbie Deans as coach?"​

Its running 39% yes - 55% no and 6% undecided: should we trust them?
BTW - i was relieved to see it added up to 100%)
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Check out the Bone-Ometer on the front page for the real measure. Currently running at 83% saying GO
 
BDA

BDA

Jim Lenehan (48)
At this point, Deans' a bit like an old pair of sneakers. no matter how long we leave him in the sun to air, he'll always have a bad smell about him. its time for a new pair... and there's nothing quite like that first run in a pair of new sneakers. All of a sudden you feel like bryan habana...I want that feeling again.

Deans and the Wallabies are clearly in a bad rut. They both need a shake up and that starts with them parting ways.

Most of all I think its abundantly clear that hiring a foreigner to coach our team was in hindsight not the way to go. he was the best option 4 years ago, fair enough, but Link can take it from here.

Underlining this whole issue is something more sinister. I must have watched 10 to 15 Aussie Super derbies this year and I cant remember any that entertained. It was boring, negative tactics. A similar style to that which the wallabies have inexplicably adopted. Forget the free to air broadcasting issues or the unavailability of the game to kids in public schools, the players and coaches at international and provincial level seem to have forgotten why aussies like this game in the first place and that's the major issue in my eyes.
 
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