The Orc has spoken: Saffas are dirty cheating cvnts!

[Spook]

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/south-african-behemoths-will-struggle-says-waugh-20100130-n5dz.html

''I think maybe South Africa will find it hardest," the 79-Test veteran said of the new interpretations announced by SANZAR last week. "The South Africans tend to lie around and do a bit of manhandling of the tackled player on the ground, so having to roll away all the time could maybe disadvantage them more so than other sides. I think the decision to make the breakdown more of a contest is great for the game and for the players - it will reward good technique. I think the players who are smart will get an advantage from it.
Is Orc implying Saffas aren't smart :lmao:?
''I think the South Africans will still adjust but players lying around in that tackle area will be forced to get out of that area, which will certainly advantage teams who are willing to play with the ball."

 

[PaarlBok]

Pretty shite taste coming from one that do the same thing. Suppose your dirty cheating c... is one you made up yourself, your going from bad to worse and make TB look like a hero for his dig at the Aussies at TSF. I use to like Waugh a lot but when he talks like this it make sense for Deans not to pick this arsehole for the Wallabies.

 

[waratahjesus]

he didnt say anything bad paarl, he just spoke his mind, the south africans including the coach say much worse crap so calling a true hero in waugh a name doesnt fly that well.

everyone in the world including south africa know they cheat and play dirty, they get away with it so good luck to em, but lets not make personnal attacks on australias version of nelson mandela.

 

[Scarfman]

PaarlBok vs waratahjesus. Sprinboks vs Waratahs.

This should be a stimulating debate.

 

[fatprop]

South African behemoths will struggle, says Waugh
JOSH RAKIC
January 31, 2010

WARATAHS skipper Phil Waugh has fired the first barb at rival South African teams ahead of next week's start of the Super 14 season, labelling their breakdown technique as illegal "man-handling".

Waugh said SANZAR's crackdown on breakdown infringements for the new season would bring the top South African sides back to the pack.

''I think maybe South Africa will find it hardest," the 79-Test veteran said of the new interpretations announced by SANZAR last week. "The South Africans tend to lie around and do a bit of manhandling of the tackled player on the ground, so having to roll away all the time could maybe disadvantage them more so than other sides. I think the decision to make the breakdown more of a contest is great for the game and for the players - it will reward good technique. I think the players who are smart will get an advantage from it.

''I think the South Africans will still adjust but players lying around in that tackle area will be forced to get out of that area, which will certainly advantage teams who are willing to play with the ball."

Playing the ball is high on every Australian franchise's agenda in 2010 after a meeting with the ARU late last year highlighted the importance of returning to an entertaining, running style of rugby. And while Brumbies and fellow Wallabies breakaway George Smith said the new law interpretations would not change his side's attacking focus, he admitted it would make their task easier.

"It allows the ball-carrier to actually place the ball back, so it gives the attacking team a bit more time to play with the ball, with a bit more security there," he said. ''It makes you more aware of your technique and more aware of your reaction to get back on your feet and allow the ball-carrier as little time as possible to get the ball away, but at the same time making sure you adhere to the law.

''My game won't change dramatically, I'll just be more aware of what the situation at the breakdown."

Both players agreed the move would make for a more entertaining and satisfying spectacle. As did Australian rugby's referees coach, Andrew Cole.

''The referees have been instructed to be particularly hard on any tackler who's trying to slow down the ball - whether he's clearing to his feet or simply lying there, he must clearly get away from the ball, release and get to his feet before he plays at the ball,'' Cole said. ''If not, it's a penalty situation.

''The genesis of it was that in the post-Super 14 review in August last year there was a coach and referee representative from each of the three countries … and the feeling from the coaches was that the breakdown was an issue and that the ball was being slowed down illegally. We wanted to not favour one team or another, but just to shift the focus so it was more even and therefore in doing that reward the attacking team if they were able to hold onto the ball.''

Waugh said he relished the opportunity to challenge himself even further at the breakdown and help spark some creative play for his Waratahs outfit, which was heavily criticised for its lack of try-scoring flair in 2009.

''It certainly frees it up for the broken side attack," Waugh said.

''With the focus being on cleaning up the defensive infringements, it's going to be to the attacking team's advantage and you should see more teams willing to attack rather than kick away possession."

I think Paarl may have overreacted a tad due to the exaggeration used in the title, the article is pretty innocuous

 

[Blue]

PaarlBok vs waratahjesus. Sprinboks vs Waratahs.

This should be a stimulating debate.

Quite right.

One is delusional ane one out of his mind. I ain't saying which is which. Forum rules and all that.

:fishing

PS the article is harmless.

 

[waratahjesus]

dont see either of those applying to me blue, supporting my team impartially is something i strive hard to do and i dont feel the need to presonally attack and belittle others including players to make my point, the thread title should be changed, Phil Waughs opinion should be accepted and cheered as a revelation that we all knew anyway

 

[Ash]

I don't know about Waugh slowing down much ball at the breakdown over the last two years - I mean, he has to get to it first...

 

[Blue]

dont see either of those applying to me blue, supporting my team impartially is something i strive hard to do and i dont feel the need to presonally attack and belittle others including players to make my point, the thread title should be changed, Phil Waughs opinion should be accepted and cheered as a revelation that we all knew anyway

If we all knew it, it's not a revelation bnut let's not get too technical.

You call ALL South African players cheats and then preach about generalising? Get real son.

 

[waratahjesus]

dont see either of those applying to me blue, supporting my team impartially is something i strive hard to do and i dont feel the need to presonally attack and belittle others including players to make my point, the thread title should be changed, Phil Waughs opinion should be accepted and cheered as a revelation that we all knew anyway

If we all knew it, it's not a revelation bnut let's not get too technical.

You call ALL South African players cheats and then preach about generalising? Get real son.

sorry, ad subtlety of humour to a list of things saffas arnt good at.

 

[Blue]

dont see either of those applying to me blue, supporting my team impartially is something i strive hard to do and i dont feel the need to presonally attack and belittle others including players to make my point, the thread title should be changed, Phil Waughs opinion should be accepted and cheered as a revelation that we all knew anyway

If we all knew it, it's not a revelation bnut let's not get too technical.

You call ALL South African players cheats and then preach about generalising? Get real son.

:lmao:

sorry, ad subtlety of humour to a list of things saffas arnt good at.

You crack me up man. Seeing as I am obviously unable to laugh at myself I'll just read your posts for my laughs.

Waratahjesus and subtle in the same post. You're a right funny guy.

Anyhow, I just hope for Phil's sake the Tah back row adapt to the new interpretation real quick or he will have a lot of egg on his face. I think ALL teams are going to struggle for a few rounds.

 

[waratahjesus]

dont see either of those applying to me blue, supporting my team impartially is something i strive hard to do and i dont feel the need to presonally attack and belittle others including players to make my point, the thread title should be changed, Phil Waughs opinion should be accepted and cheered as a revelation that we all knew anyway

If we all knew it, it's not a revelation bnut let's not get too technical.

You call ALL South African players cheats and then preach about generalising? Get real son.

:lmao:

sorry, ad subtlety of humour to a list of things saffas arnt good at.

You crack me up man. Seeing as I am obviously unable to laugh at myself I'll just read your posts for my laughs.

Waratahjesus and subtle in the same post. You're a right funny guy.

Anyhow, I just hope for Phil's sake the Tah back row adapt to the new interpretation real quick or he will have a lot of egg on his face. I think ALL teams are going to struggle for a few rounds.

glad i could be of help matey,

i agree to, its going to be interesting to see exactly how the rules are inforced, i would suggest having more speed in the back row will be of a greater advantage, i hope it doesnt spell the end of counter rucking though, if a teams attack is crap they deserve to be punished all night long.

 

[PaarlBok]

I don't know about Waugh slowing down much ball at the breakdown over the last two years - I mean, he has to get to it first...

Exactly , thats why I use to like him. Last time he played against Bakkies he got Bakkies cited for a few weeks when he got cleaned out after slowing down pill and on the recieving end throwing a tanty to the ref. Hopeful this new rule will help our clean out supremos like Bakkies and the culprit receiving the penalty.

Then he generilse about the Saffers forget every single Aus S14 franchise have slow down pill experts in their teams, Braid (they even import from NZ) for the Reds, Smith for the Brumbies, himself and PoCock from the Force.

but this just show the starter of this thread accusing me of double standards measurements and Blue thanks for your compliment Boet.

 

[Biffo]

I don't know about Waugh slowing down much ball at the breakdown over the last two years - I mean, he has to get to it first...

Exactly , thats why I use to like him. Last time he played against Bakkies he got Bakkies cited for a few weeks when he got cleaned out after slowing down pill and on the recieving end throwing a tanty to the ref. Hopeful this new rule will help our clean out supremos like Bakkies and the culprit receiving the penalty.

Then he generilse about the Saffers forget every single Aus S14 franchise have slow down pill experts in their teams, Braid (they even import from NZ) for the Reds, Smith for the Brumbies, himself and PoCock from the Force.

but this just show the starter of this thread accusing me of double standards measurements and Blue thanks for your compliment Boet.

PB, does this mean what I think it means?

 

[PaarlBok]

Dunno what your question is, fact is the job of the opensiders was to poach and slow down. Every single team have these specialist and he knows that well. To start picking on the Saffers about the rule change is a bit far fetch and the heading of this thread is just way beyond thinking.

Geuss I start a thread here and calling teams or countries players cynts where I'll end?

 

[waratahjesus]

if you read the article he isnt saying other teams dont do it, he is saying that in his opinion the south african teams will find it harder to adjust. He has played at the top level for a fair few years, if your not going to take his opinion, then taking bakkies will surely give you a more rounded variety of information.

 

[Biffo]

Dunno what your question is, fact is the job of the opensiders was to poach and slow down. Every single team have these specialist and he knows that well. To start picking on the Saffers about the rule change is a bit far fetch and the heading of this thread is just way beyond thinking.

Geuss I start a thread here and calling teams or countries players cynts where I'll end?

Are you writing that those Bakkies belts are the guilty parties and Bakkies is their victim?

 

[cyclopath]

PB, you should really read the article carefully, and not just the headline. It really isn't that bad.
Waugh never actually accuses anyone of anything heinous, and perhaps he knows a bit more about the different styles employed in the depths of the breakdown by different teams to make a comment. More perhaps than a bunch of computer-terminal experts.
Relax, boet, not worth getting uptight about this. And not with wj.

 

[PaarlBok]

PB, you should really read the article carefully, and not just the headline. It really isn't that bad.
Waugh never actually accuses anyone of anything heinous, and perhaps he knows a bit more about the different styles employed in the depths of the breakdown by different teams to make a comment. More perhaps than a bunch of computer-terminal experts.
Relax, boet, not worth getting uptight about this. And not with wj.

Ja , ja, ja like usual Cyc is right,

 

[JJJ]

PB, you should really read the article carefully, and not just the headline. It really isn't that bad.
Waugh never actually accuses anyone of anything heinous, and perhaps he knows a bit more about the different styles employed in the depths of the breakdown by different teams to make a comment. More perhaps than a bunch of computer-terminal experts.
Relax, boet, not worth getting uptight about this. And not with wj.

He's not the only one who put a nice inflammatory twist on it. Check out the misplaced quotation marks in this (SA) write-up of it: http://www.rugby365.com/tournaments/super14/news/2196420.htm