The one and only Wallaby Coach thread

[noscrumnolife]

The difference between England, Wales and Australia is that Borthwick had worked under Eddie for 8 years, been in the premiership as a HC for 3 and had strong working relationships with the senior players in the camp. Gatland had been the coach who bought most of the players through into Test Rugby and was the dominant figure in Welsh Rugby since 2007. They had a complete awareness of who the players were, what the environment was, what play style worked for those players and good working relationships with the senior figures.

I could not imagine two more different coaches than Rennie and Eddie. It was an intense amount of change. If McLennan was convinced Eddie was the man for the job and that Rennie would have failed, the sensible thing to do would have been to let the World Cup play out with Rennie as coach. If it was a failure like he expected, Eddie would have made perfect sense with change obviously called for. If the Rennie environment produced better results than expected, it would have been simple to promote McKellar as planned and continue onwards. There would have been no fall back on the Hammer in the event of failure under Rennie because he was a Raelene pick.

Instead he got nervy about losing Eddie to the USA and screwed the pooch, losing three years of work from one coach and burning through the guy he actually wanted.

 

[Linerunner2023]

England sack Eddie a year out and make the SF and 1 point off the final
Wallabies take on Eddie and get their worst ever yea and RWC result not making it out of the pool stage and not recording a W v a top nation
And it was a pool that was very poor

 

[Penriff_boy]

Rennie was a flop

Then what is Eddie? And what are the Rebels?

 

[Tomthumb]

England sack Eddie a year out and make the SF and 1 point off the final
Wallabies take on Eddie and get their worst ever yea and RWC result not making it out of the pool stage and not recording a W v a top nation
And it was a pool that was very poor

You could say Eddie had England set up to win it all and you couldn’t prove it wrong

 

[Tomthumb]

Then what is Eddie? And what are the Rebels?

A flop.

No one is arguing for Eddie

 

[RugbyReg]

Then what is Eddie? And what are the Rebels?

keep on topic.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Eddie is a few points of being a wallabies World Cup winning coach lol

Yeah about 150 points off it.

 

[LeCheese]

QC (Quade Cooper) with a bit of a receipt - reads like something from a snake oil merchant on LinkedIn, but he's not too far off

 

[Rebel man]

Yeah about 150 points off it.

4 points

 

[Highlander35]

Fair enough if QC (Quade Cooper) dislikes his desire to win being questioned, I'd hate that as much as anyone else.

But I don't think anyone could reasonably suggest that the form across his most recent 5 games (RC + Tour match v rebels) was anywhere close to international standard.

 

[dusk]

But I don't think anyone could reasonably suggest that the form across his most recent 5 games (RC + Tour match v rebels) was anywhere close to international standard.

Oh right because 20-year-olds Carter Gordon and Donaldson showed international standards in super rugby! It's the same shitty logic that Eddie used and tried to justify but did nothing but blow up in his face.

 

[dusk]

Rennie was a flop, also this is meant to be about future coaching appointments. The constant fan girling over Rennie adds nothing to that conversation

Where is this "constant fan-girling"

 

[Tomthumb]

I can see Eddie losing his rag if Quade’s answer as to why he dropped the ball vs NZ was: “it’s ok coach, I prepared well” haha

 

[Derpus]

Rennie was a flop, also this is meant to be about future coaching appointments. The constant fan girling over Rennie adds nothing to that conversation

Gotta wonder if he was. In light of recent results he might not have been. Have to say it, I was one saying he should be moved on after Italy. Thinking I was wrong eh.

 

[Tomthumb]

Gotta wonder if he was. In light of recent results he might not have been. Have to say it, I was one saying he should be moved on after Italy. Thinking I was wrong eh.

He was.

If the next wallabies coach comes in and does worse, does that mean Eddie did a good job?

 

[Derpus]

He was.

If the next wallabies coach come in and does worse, does that mean Eddie did a good job?

Seems hard to do worse but I concede, fair point.

 

[eastman]

Gotta wonder if he was. In light of recent results he might not have been. Have to say it, I was one saying he should be moved on after Italy. Thinking I was wrong eh.

I struggle to understand the hysteria around the Italy loss- I can’t emphasize this enough - he picked a second string team.

Rennie’s team beat Scotland and Wales and literally just lost to Ireland and France. That seems like a pretty good fucking tour in hindsight right.

 

[John S]

So getting rid of Rennie was the right move and putting Eddie in was the wrong move. Who was available to take on HC one year out that wasn't Eddie?

Hamish gambled it all on Eddie and lost it all.

Who knows, Rennie may have done better this year, maybe not - but looking back now it looks rash from RA to dump him last year.

 

[eastman]

Where is this "constant fan-girling"

Tomthumb, Rebel Man and Noscrumlife are accounts run by the same dude- don‘t bother arguing.

 

[Derpus]

So getting rid of Rennie was the right move and putting Eddie in was the wrong move. Who was available to take on HC one year out that wasn't Eddie?

Hamish gambled it all on Eddie and lost it all.

Who knows, Rennie may have done better this year, maybe not - but looking back now it looks rash from Rugby Australia to dump him last year.

Ya hindsight is wonderful. I guess the issue is probably mostly about the nature of the call. He went all in and lost.