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[rodha]

You can cross Deans off the list...

'You don't go back': Deans distances himself from Wallabies return as he echoes Waugh's comments on Jones era

Robbie Deans has offered Rugby Australia some sage advice after becoming the first big name to rule himself out as a contender to replace…

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But the 64-year-old was happy to offer some suggestions for RA and whoever they appoint as next Wallabies coach.

“You turn up for work, think about your players, think about your playing group. It’s a player game,” Deans said.

“There’s not enough people thinking about the fact that it’s a player’s game and not enough people thinking beyond their time, beyond their term.

“Leadership is looking beyond where you are in any given moment.

“You’ve got be building to go somewhere beyond where you are.”

And this is why I was a huge advocate of Rennie's. He was always building & cognizant of the future and had a coherent plan even if Wallabies fans couldn't see it. Sure he didn't get automatic results but he was always a pragmatist who (unlike Eddie) kept a very measured approach with a clear strategy leading towards the 2023 World Cup.

 

[The Red Baron]

You can cross Deans off the list...

'You don't go back': Deans distances himself from Wallabies return as he echoes Waugh's comments on Jones era

Robbie Deans has offered Rugby Australia some sage advice after becoming the first big name to rule himself out as a contender to replace…

www.theroar.com.au

Not surprised by that in the least. He'd be mad to come back.

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

Absolutely certifiable to get back involved, but his comments were measured and cogent.

 

[shanky]

$10 says he keeps Hooper on the bench for 75 minutes.

 

[Tomthumb]

And this is why I was a huge advocate of Rennie's. He was always building & cognizant of the future and had a coherent plan even if Wallabies fans couldn't see it. Sure he didn't get automatic results but he was always a pragmatist who (unlike Eddie) kept a very measured approach with a clear strategy leading into the 2023 World Cup.

Ah yes, the master plan that no one can actually explain that involved winning 38% of your games for 3 years

Someone needs to tell Rassie and Andy Farrell they are doing it all wrong by winning all those games

 

[noscrumnolife]

Ah yes, the master plan that no one can actually explain that involved winning 38% of your games for 3 years

Someone needs to tell Rassie and Andy Farrell they are doing it all wrong by winning all those games

You don't understand tomthumb. You just couldn't see it. But it was a very coherent plan.

He was always building and being cognizant of the future by picking a 35 year old ten who hadn't played test rugby for six years.

Rennie fanboys never fail to produce a chuckle. Their capacity to shunt effusive praise for him into seemingly any topic is incredible.

 

[Penriff_boy]

If you guys prefer the mess we have with Eddie now, then suit yourselves.

He set up a team that would habe most likely made it to the Qf/Sf of the world cup.

Eddie came in and completely destroyed the team. It's laughable to even compare.

 

[rodha]

You don't understand tomthumb. You just couldn't see it. But it was a very coherent plan.

He was always building and being cognizant of the future by picking a 35 year old ten who hadn't played test rugby for six years.

Rennie fanboys never fail to produce a chuckle. Their capacity to shunt effusive praise for him into seemingly any topic is incredible.

Rennie was only a few points off having a 71% win ratio due to the sheer amount of narrow losses & also bear in mind Rennie had the toughest fixtures of any Wallabies coach since McKenzie. No tests against minnow nations.

 

[noscrumnolife]

I'm not making any comparisons to Eddie. His results speak for themselves. I think it was wrong to sack Rennie a year out.

I also don't need to delude myself into pretending he was a master coach to have those opinions.

 

[Linerunner2023]

You don't understand tomthumb. You just couldn't see it. But it was a very coherent plan.

He was always building and being cognizant of the future by picking a 35 year old ten who hadn't played test rugby for six years.

Rennie fanboys never fail to produce a chuckle. Their capacity to shunt effusive praise for him into seemingly any topic is incredible.

No one things Rennie was the saving grace and a master coach but the results and % prove he completely outcoached jones
And yes I would take a 35 year old 80 test match Cooper who won back to back tests v SA in 2021 over 2 young players who were completely out of their depth in international rugby and one barley a super rugby player
Do Donaldson and gorden even know the rules? They kicked out of their 22 out on the full and failed to find touch on penalties
I would take loosing to Ireland and France by 1 point over in Europe with over 20 players missing rhen loosing to 40 by a 9th placing wales side

 

[John S]

Look, DR wasn't setting the world alight, but there at least seemed to be a semblance of structure.

Hindsight is wonderful isn't it. At the time, I was wanting to see it work seeing as we had such dismal performances with DR, I did wonder at the thinking behind sacking a coach one year out.
I didn't see any improvements only saw EJ (Eddie Jones) smash the Wallabies and grab all hope from the fans.

 

[Linerunner2023]

Rennie was only a few points off having a 71% win ratio due to the sheer amount of narrow losses & also bear in mind Rennie had the toughest fixtures of any Wallabies coach since McKenzie. No tests against minnow nations.

Exactly jones would be 0% if not for a World Cup year
He wouldn’t have even got off the board

 

[Slim 293]

you’re the one trying to pretend Rennie is Rod McQueen for some unknown reason

No one is…

But it’s pretty clear that firing Rennie a year early was the wrong decision.

 

[Tomthumb]

Rennie was only a few points off having a 71% win ratio due to the sheer amount of narrow losses

Yeah and I’m only a few decimal points away from being a billionaire

 

[Tomthumb]

No one is…

But it’s pretty clear that firing Rennie a year early was the wrong decision.

No.

It was the wrong decision to hire Eddie Jones. As Wales and England proved, firing an underperforming coach a year out isn’t a problem, you just have to get the hire right

 

[Slim 293]

No.

It was the wrong decision to hire Eddie Jones. As Wales and England proved, firing an underperforming coach a year out isn’t a problem, you just have to get the hire right

Ah, so now we’re dealing in hypotheticals…

 

[Tomthumb]

Ah, so now we’re dealing in hypotheticals…

I’m unsure if this is an Eddie joke, Because as you know, he doesn’t deal in those

But seriously, no, we are talking about two seperate decisions

Were wales wrong to sack Pivac? He had the same win record as Rennie and won a 6 nations and a triple crown

Were England wrong to sack Jones? He beat Rennie in a test series last year and drew with NZ

 

[Rebel man]

Rennie was only a few points off having a 71% win ratio due to the sheer amount of narrow losses & also bear in mind Rennie had the toughest fixtures of any Wallabies coach since McKenzie. No tests against minnow nations.

Eddie is a few points of being a wallabies World Cup winning coach lol

 

[Penriff_boy]

Wow, all the way to the Quarter final!? Hang the banner!

Eddie is a coward that failed miserably, but he wouldn’t have got the job in the first place if Rennie actually had a plan that involved winning games every now and then

I’m happy to admit Eddie was a failure, you’re the one trying to pretend Rennie is Rod McQueen for some unknown reason

I'm saying he was a much better option than Rennie, and they made a big mistake getting rid of him before the World Cup.

 

[Rebel man]

I'm saying he was a much better option than Rennie, and they made a nig mistake getting rid of him before the World Cup.

Rennie was a flop, also this is meant to be about future coaching appointments. The constant fan girling over Rennie adds nothing to that conversation