The Israel Folau saga

[Derpus]

Not all Christian's believe that. Its ignorance.

Point remains.

 

[Adam84]

He knows the reach of his social media when it suits him

 

[Dctarget]

Do we get to scratch Vunipola from the England rugby team too?
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/im-a...at-list-at-least-once-vunipola-defends-folau/

 

[Derpus]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BwJoJq7gW4Q/

Billy V out in support for Izzy.

 

[KOB1987]

 

[Derpus]

Do we get to scratch Vunipola from the England rugby team too?
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/im-a...at-list-at-least-once-vunipola-defends-folau/

Beat me ya bastard.

 

[Derpus]

Man i low key reckon losing Billy V would be a bigger blow than losing Izzy eh.

 

[KOB1987]

Beat me ya bastard.

I think we were all in sync!

 

[liquor box]

LOL. I know you're not really being serious, but why would World Rugby have to allow someone to be eligible to play test rugby for a second country if they were a refugee?

Like anyone changing nationality, you are only eligible if you haven't played for a previous country.

I think they would allow the change and there would be plenty of Pro-Bono lawyers prepared to fight for the cause.

Imagine some kid who played Rugby for Afghanistan and flees the country because the Taliban are going to kill him. He seeks and gets asylum in Brisbane and makes it in Super Rugby as a starting player. He publicly declares he wants to represent his new country.

Do you think the IRB would not allow him to play?

 

[Dctarget]

It's the quick and the dead around here fellas. Clearly we're all very original and witty too.

 

[Dctarget]

I think they would allow the change and there would be plenty of Pro-Bono lawyers prepared to fight for the cause.

Imagine some kid who played Rugby for Afghanistan and flees the country because the Taliban are going to kill him. He seeks and gets asylum in Brisbane and makes it in Super Rugby as a starting player. He publicly declares he wants to represent his new country.

Do you think the IRB would not allow him to play?

Doesn't this happen all the time already with the Olympics, where they play for non-country team or something. I'm sure it could've happened with soccer as well.

 

[sidelineview]

Actually, I'm aware of that one.... she was a contractor who wasn't an employee of the company.

So there's that one example, but like those few extreme examples in Aurelius' above post doesn't quite paint a picture of the poor persecuted Christian people.

And Chick-fil-A isn't receiving public backlash because they donated money to the Salvation Army.....

It's more the Christian faith rather than the poor old persecuted Christians.
Or anyone who takes a stand against politically correct tolerance.
For example, the baker in the States (or Canada?) who refused to make a wedding cake for a same sex couple because of his beliefs. That was his right, right? No, he was dragged through the courts for discrimination. He stuck to his guns and eventually won the right to refuse service to the couple.

As a Christian, does Izzy have the right to express his views even though they conflict with that of his employers?

 

[Strewthcobber]

Unlike the Baker, Australians, like Izzy don't have the right of freedom of speech

 

[KOB1987]

I think they would allow the change and there would be plenty of Pro-Bono lawyers prepared to fight for the cause.

Imagine some kid who played Rugby for Afghanistan and flees the country because the Taliban are going to kill him. He seeks and gets asylum in Brisbane and makes it in Super Rugby as a starting player. He publicly declares he wants to represent his new country.

Do you think the IRB would not allow him to play?

That’s a pretty extreme example that I think the whole rugby world would be prepared to grant an exemption if it happened!

 

[Slim 293]

As a Christian, does Izzy have the right to express his views even though they conflict with that of his employers?

When those personal views are made in a public setting.........

And includes discriminatory comments.........

And those comments are in contrast to the policies set out by his employer...............

And violate the terms of his contract..............

And he's received prior warning............

Then no, he does not have the right.......... or rather, he does but has to face the consequences of his actions.

 

[Derpus]

Unlike the Baker, Australians like Izzy don't have the right of freedom of speech

Correcto. I am curious. Here you can usually contract out of a legislative right. I wonder if you can contract out of a constitutional right in the US? i guess probably not.

 

[Derpus]

That’s a pretty extreme example that I think the whole rugby world would be prepared to grant an exemption if it happened!

There would surely be some discretionary power written into the rules for this kind of situation. Theres always a backdoor written in.

 

[Dctarget]

There would surely be some discretionary power written into the rules for this kind of situation. Theres always a backdoor written in.

why are you bringing me back to first year law. This isn't fun

 

[KOB1987]

It’s interesting to look at his twitter account. He only follows 43 others - a heap of other players, a few sponsors, the governing bodies and a couple of bible bashing mobs. No random followees whatsoever..

 

[Slim 293]

Theres always a backdoor written in.

Not in Folau's case.........