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The dying - perhaps death - of Rugby in Australia.

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barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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Well the Reds drew 33,500 for the Force in round 2 last year!
Having members of the board supportive of a concept is not board approval.He has been very general in any comments regarding T3.
Let's wait for a formal announcement of something specific before we celebrate anything.

As was pointed out above, Round 2 after you won a title the previous year. A bit different.

I'm not celebrating anything, just think it is a positive that we have decent ideas on the table.
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Penguin

John Solomon (38)
Was there a good reason why the Reds played last night?
tonights prime time hole is a bad look + im bored


It was the Waratah's request to move to Friday night so their players could partake in the gay mardi gras on Saturday night. The Reds were already scheduled to play on Friday & had to be pushed back to the later time slot to accommodate this unusual request..... it sure didn't get the Tah's a bigger crowd!
 

I like to watch

David Codey (61)
They were coming off being Super Rugby champions. That would have been an. extraordinary year and now we're returning towards more normal crowd numbers.
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So a reduction of 6,500 in attendance figures or 16% is a positive result?
It might well be reasonable to expect a modest reduction from the previous high.But they had to resort to substantial give aways to struggle up to 84% of the previous year.If you believe that is a positive result, then we will have to agree to disagree.
 

Penguin

John Solomon (38)
The Reds pulled in 41,500 at Suncorp last year.This year they were giving away $20 or $30 of free merchandise when you bought a ticket for this game(some 1 game special membership, as obviously their membership drive is also well short of budget)
So IMO 35,000 is not a positive result.
My understanding is that the new guys' planning for a new 3rd tier is not yet at the back of the beer coaster stage of development/planning.
3rd tier will only be a positive, if it is a meaningful improvement of what currently exists.
If it was planned,approved and funded it would be a positive, but we are a long way from there yet.

:confused: It's a lot more positive than 11k!!!! Make all the excuses you like but the Reds will average 30k again this season, worry about the fickle Sydney crowd first mate.....
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
It was the Waratah's request to move to Friday night so their players could partake in the gay mardi gras on Saturday night. The Reds were already scheduled to play on Friday & had to be pushed back to the later time slot to accommodate this unusual request... it sure didn't get the Tah's a bigger crowd!
So they could get down here too?
 

Penguin

John Solomon (38)
Just face the facts. The Tah's changed the schedule, this is why there is no game on prime time tonight. The Reds would have had no interest in swapping nights. They still pulled a crowd of over 30k with crap weather about. You guys are clutching at straws, it's rather amusing.
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Just face the facts. The Tah's changed the schedule, this is why there is no game on prime time tonight. The Reds would have had no interest in swapping nights. They still pulled a crowd of over 30k with crap weather about. You guys are clutching at straws, it's rather amusing.
I think you take thing a little too seriously.
I'm sure only Reds officials needed to get down here tonight.
 

No4918

John Hipwell (52)
8.30 on a Friday night and they got 30k to the Reds in what has also been rubbish weather. Very good result considering crowds on Fridays and against non-Aus opposition don't usually do well. As much as I enjoyed seeing the Tahs struggle it's very bad for rugby. Thanks for the concern but it's time the Tahs got their shit together and started winning some games and reconnect with the fans.
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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Reds v Tahs at Suncorp was the game the Reds had to nail to get into the finals, they were on a roll, and was possibly their game of the season. I am not sure you can directly compare the crowd to game 1 at home as the context is quite different. Let alone make an argument that they have a problem with 35,000 punters at a home game!
As for the scheduling issue, well, SANZAR and the Tahs organisation stuffed up royally.
As for the sniggering about the Mardi Gras, I think that needs no comment other than grow up. It's a fantastic spectacle, and well worth seeing at least once.
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
5. There was a comprehensive two page analysis of Channel TEN's problems in today's Sydney Morning Herald. A fair bit of the analysis focused on the new CEO's intention to use sport as a catalyst for improved ratings. Sport, meaning AFL, NRL, or soccer. Not a single mention of our game, even in what will be the biggest year for a decade.

TEN of course are struggling, they are desperate for ratings. Unfortunately they are almost certainly not going to go with an Australia-wide live telecast, which means that Fox Sports will be able to go live, which in turn will decrease TEN's ratings. A vicious cycle.

If TEN drops our game, who will pick it up? Not Nine. Not Seven. Maybe SBS (until they start their A-League telecasts next season), but they wouldn't pay much, if anything. I suppose the ABC would put a game on in Eastern Australia, in the Shute Shield spot. I wonder whether we would have to pay them?

Why are Ten going to drop our game?

Because it wasn't mentioned in the article?

And what AFL and NRL are TEN going to show?

They don't have the rights to either sport.....

I think you're drawing a rather long bow here.......
 

Slim 293

Stirling Mortlock (74)
REALLY long bow wamberal.........

Despite McLennan's loud play for sports rights, a broad assessment of the landscape in Australia suggests he may have his work cut out for him. AFL, NRL and A-League are tied to other networks (Seven, Nine and SBS, respectively) leaving cricket and the Australian Open tennis in play. And in real terms, the chances of Nine allowing another network to take a sport it sees as its birthright, at any price, are slim.
 

Penguin

John Solomon (38)
As for the scheduling issue, well, SANZAR and the Tahs organisation stuffed up royally.
As for the sniggering about the Mardi Gras, I think that needs no comment other than grow up. It's a fantastic spectacle, and well worth seeing at least once.

Just having a little laugh Cyclo, it all should have been sorted way before the season started, I'm sure it affected the Tah's bottom line last night..... perhaps I should have added "Not that there's anything wrong with that" :)
 

WorkingClassRugger

Michael Lynagh (62)
I took a work colleague from the US to the tahs last night. He mentioned that grid iron games are blacked out in the city which they are played unless the game is a sell out. Blacked out means the game is not on live tv at all in that city. They sell out most games as a result. Maybe aus rugby needs to think about something drastic like this to get attendances up, say have a blackout if the stadium is less than half full. Alternatively, maybe they should offer ticket discounts for fox subscribers, maybe even something like a free ticket to one game a year.

What did your work colleague think about the game?
 

Blue

Andrew Slack (58)
I think full NFL crowds has a lot more to do with an awesome product than it does with blackout, which was only designed to fill stadiums in dead rubbers at the end of the season between no hopers.

As for 80% of the games, good luck if you think you're going to get a ticket. My family live in Boston and they have no hope for a Patriots unless they do a year of favors for a member and even then they will compete with a hundred people.

Green Bay has a 100 year waiting list.
 
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