Sydney Subbies 2025

[Ref_Ted]

Whilst we are all watching the league instead of the Lions. I’ve had a crack at the divisions for next year to make a more even spread.

Outside of Div 1 the only 8 team Div. Everyone else is a 7 team comp, so there will be 2 byes to fit the 14 round season. Colts are still an issue but trying to fit the grade sides the best with like for like.

Div 1 5 Grades and Colts
Keeping the 8 team comp. With only UNSW possible to challenge the status quo. Newport deserve a 2nd year in Division 1 if they want it
1. Hunters
2. Mosman
3. Waverley
4. Colleagues
5. Mountains
6. Newport
7. Lindfield/Drummoyne/UNSW
8. Lindfield/Drummoyne/UNSW

Div 2 4 Grades and Colts
Hills with 3 grades this year and strong through the grades are the obvious ones to move up. Though I’ve moved Colleagues Colts to play with Irish as it’s a better fit travel wise.
1. Lindfield/Drummoyne/UNSW
2. Petersham
3. Forest
4. St Pats
5. Briars
6. Sydney Irish- With Colleagues colts 2.
7. Hills- No colts?

Div 3 2 Grades & Colts
The struggle with this division is finding enough teams with Colts and keeping Div 5 viable. It may be that if those clubs want to push up with Colts then we have a bigger Div 4 & 6. Hoping one of the bottom 3 find colts but potentially Brothers Colts could fit with Redfield if they don’t have a senior side?
1. Beecroft
2. Knox
3. LCOI
4. Hornsby
5. Redfield- No Colts?
6. Valley- No Colts?
7. Raptors- No Colts?
Brothers Colts?

Div 4- 2 Grades
Similar to this year but the top 3 clubs have been moved up to boost Div 3. Swapped this Div with Div 5 as it links more with Div 3. Harbour have been paired with Convicts given there location and Harbours strength in a 1 team comp.
1. Blacktown
2. Harlequins
3. Renegades
4. Epping
5. Canterbury
6. Harbour/Convicts
7. Manly

Div 5 1 Grade and Colts
The old Div 4… Some of these clubs may be eyeing a spot in Div 3 with 2 Grades. Though move anyone up you struggle to properly fill this Div. Hoping to see Barker back in Grade.
1. Wakehurst
2. Mac Uni
3. Chatswood
4. Kings
5. Balmain
6. Barker
7. Burraneer- Burra Seniors alongside Burra Colts but still 2 clubs…

Div 6 1 Grade
Not to many changes from this year other than Maccabi and St Ives moving back down as a 1 team club.
1. Merrylands
2. North Cronulla
3. Oatley
4. Georges River
5. Penrith
6. Maccabi
7. St Ives

Apologies if I’ve missed anyone….. Based off the current split and assuming numbers for clubs are similar to this year.

Rumour mill, North Cronulla to take over Burra Colts and move to Div 5, maybe Div 3? Big numbers in grade this year, not quite enough for 2 grades though. Desperately needs support from Souths who are afraid they will take players. However, North Cronulla are only interested in those that would otherwise stop playing if they missed out at Souths.
Burraneer will go back to focussing on juniors only.

 

[Odyssey_Park the 2nd]

Rumour mill, North Cronulla to take over Burra Colts and move to Div 5, maybe Div 3? Big numbers in grade this year, not quite enough for 2 grades though. Desperately needs support from Souths who are afraid they will take players. However, North Cronulla are only interested in those that would otherwise stop playing if they missed out at Souths.
Burraneer will go back to focussing on juniors only.

Either way thought it was a better fit than having them drive an hour up to Latham. Better fit with a local side and hopefully see some growth in the 1 club sides in that area. Still leaves us with the Burra senior abd junior split

 

[Prodigy]

Div 5 predictions
Maccabi v Raptors - the boys from the west will be looking to finish strong. Finals bound and seeking momentum.
Renegades v HVRU - still down on personnel, we're going to find this tough going against a settled lineup. Valley by a few.
Epping v Canterbury - shouldn't be a surprise here.
Harlequins v Redfield - Quins were in it for a long part of the game last time but ROBRs have all their stars back and will be a different prospect.

Canterbury over Epping???
Aren’t the Berries eggs in the second grade basket now?

 

[Pfitzy]

Canterbury over Epping???

Whoops my bad. Was so busy using bold on away teams I lost my train of thought

Aren’t the Berries eggs in the second grade basket now?

Did first grade ever get given any eggs?

 

[Fletch]

Whilst we are all watching the league instead of the Lions. I’ve had a crack at the divisions for next year to make a more even spread.

Outside of Div 1 the only 8 team Div. Everyone else is a 7 team comp, so there will be 2 byes to fit the 14 round season. Colts are still an issue but trying to fit the grade sides the best with like for like.

Div 1 5 Grades and Colts
Keeping the 8 team comp. With only UNSW possible to challenge the status quo. Newport deserve a 2nd year in Division 1 if they want it
1. Hunters
2. Mosman
3. Waverley
4. Colleagues
5. Mountains
6. Newport
7. Lindfield/Drummoyne/UNSW
8. Lindfield/Drummoyne/UNSW

Div 2 4 Grades and Colts
Hills with 3 grades this year and strong through the grades are the obvious ones to move up. Though I’ve moved Colleagues Colts to play with Irish as it’s a better fit travel wise.
1. Lindfield/Drummoyne/UNSW
2. Petersham
3. Forest
4. St Pats
5. Briars
6. Sydney Irish- With Colleagues colts 2.
7. Hills- No colts?

Div 3 2 Grades & Colts
The struggle with this division is finding enough teams with Colts and keeping Div 5 viable. It may be that if those clubs want to push up with Colts then we have a bigger Div 4 & 6. Hoping one of the bottom 3 find colts but potentially Brothers Colts could fit with Redfield if they don’t have a senior side?
1. Beecroft
2. Knox
3. LCOI
4. Hornsby
5. Redfield- No Colts?
6. Valley- No Colts?
7. Raptors- No Colts?
Brothers Colts?

Div 4- 2 Grades
Similar to this year but the top 3 clubs have been moved up to boost Div 3. Swapped this Div with Div 5 as it links more with Div 3. Harbour have been paired with Convicts given there location and Harbours strength in a 1 team comp.
1. Blacktown
2. Harlequins
3. Renegades
4. Epping
5. Canterbury
6. Harbour/Convicts
7. Manly

Div 5 1 Grade and Colts
The old Div 4… Some of these clubs may be eyeing a spot in Div 3 with 2 Grades. Though move anyone up you struggle to properly fill this Div. Hoping to see Barker back in Grade.
1. Wakehurst
2. Mac Uni
3. Chatswood
4. Kings
5. Balmain
6. Barker
7. Burraneer- Burra Seniors alongside Burra Colts but still 2 clubs…

Div 6 1 Grade
Not to many changes from this year other than Maccabi and St Ives moving back down as a 1 team club.
1. Merrylands
2. North Cronulla
3. Oatley
4. Georges River
5. Penrith
6. Maccabi
7. St Ives

Apologies if I’ve missed anyone….. Based off the current split and assuming numbers for clubs are similar to this year.

Reasonably confident Penrith should have 2 teams next year.

 

[Fletch]

Gee, looks like Emus might have found their spot (got to be a lot better than consistently losing by cricket scores at any rate).

Four YCs seems like there's still some poor discipline issues though.

It's a tough old game some days.The video tells the story.