Super Round 2, 2018 - Rebels V Reds @ AAMI Park

[Pfitzy]

I’m not sure whether Higgers likely being suspended next week benefits the Brumbies or the Reds...

Someone saw him on the way to the airport.

 

[RugbyReg]

yeah, I said it somewhere. My concern with Higgers' appointment as captain is that I've never seen a lot of rugby intelligence in him. He demonstrated that a couple of times last night.

He played wonderfully as Rebels captain, but that's about it.

 

[Ruggo]

Happy with the refs decisions on the cards. He clearly demonstrated the logic to his decision. It is round 1 and their brief would be zero tolerance on player safety. Can't ask for more than that.

The yellow was the tipping point for the Reds. They were holding in well before that and it just become a little too much with 13. Rebels grew in confidence during that 10 minutes and the Reds were chasing shit up hill from that point on.

Higgers and Tui will be gone next week. Douglas in for Tui and Scott Young in for Higgers with Timu shifting to 8.

Fark knows who takes the captaincy. Kerevi is inept and Slipper at prop is in a compromised position. That banished Quade fella has some experience and leadership attributes demonstrated in the past.

 

[liquor box]

Happy with the refs decisions on the cards. He clearly demonstrated the logic to his decision. It is round 1 and their brief would be zero tolerance on player safety. Can't ask for more than that.

The yellow was the tipping point for the Reds. They were holding in well before that and it just become a little too much with 13. Rebels grew in confidence during that 10 minutes and the Reds were chasing shit up hill from that point on.

Higgers and Tui will be gone next week. Douglas in for Tui and Scott Young in for Higgers with Timu shifting to 8.

Fark knows who takes the captaincy. Kerevi is inept and Slipper at prop is in a compromised position. That banished Quade fella has some experience and leadership attributes demonstrated in the past.

Ready or Duncan P

 

[Dismal Pillock]

Someone saw him on the way to the airport.

already shaved the beard and just cleared customs in Rarotonga

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must say, the Reds number 1's are very snazzy this year

 

[Dismal Pillock]

Kerevi is inept

all at sea on D. yes, one light in the forwards but the Reds backline D made the Melbourne Rebels backline look like the 2003 Auckland Blues.....

 

[Rebel man]

I went last night it was only my second ever Rebels game and first in ages but it was a great night

 

[Dan54]

@Dan

You may be right in comparing Genia and Smith but I suspect you are being harsh on Will last night. I thought he was one of the few players on the field that was capable of reading the game and doing something about it. His quick decision making at penalties was spot on against a short crew and acted immediately. Some of his kicking was right on the nail. Dispossessing Higgers from the base of the scrum showed nous, knowledge and courage.

As usual he did well in marshalling the pigs when they needed direction. Reckon Coleman would be very pleased to have him starting.

Easily my MOTM.

Yep perhaps I agree dru, and I was comparing him with Smith who really did some top quality stuff, and when I think back Rebels probably wouldn't of gone anywhere near as good without Genia there. I think I keep looking for him to be real sharp on the pass, and hit runners further out, which maybe not where hi strength is. Anyway I certainly would on reflection say he was MOTM, but still not really convinced that it was high bar had been set to win it. Anyway let's hope both teams improve and as someone living in Qld, let's hope the Reds improve the most, by geez they need to.

 

[Dan54]

I assume the red card thing has been done to death. My opinion: it was fucking red, and the angle from behind Philip proves it. If you don't understand why, we can't have a discussion.

Its Higginbotham's denial that should be cause for most concern: "Just a tackle mate been doing that the last 12 years".

Yes, you tit. But the laws have changed and that's why The Universe According to Higgers is no longer a thing.

Agree pfitzy, I could not believe that Higgers said he did nothing wrong! Certainly seems a bit of empty space upstairs with him.

 

[Up the Guts]

Tui’s shot looks horrible on replay. Long time out for him I expect.

 

[dru]

I think it is also far too early to judge Brad as a rookie coach. I think people should cut him some slack and give him a bit of time personally.

We've been giving the QRU and Reds coaching slack since 2013. I'm done with slack, I'm done with time.

 

[dru]

He certainly can't be held accountable for the fact Higgers is not the sharpest knife in the drawer. But he can be held accountable for making him captain.

Pfitzty, the "culture" piece is Brad. Whether that is aggression or thugby is something that is not unreasonable to hold him accountable for.

 

[Sully]

I don't think Higgers will get suspended. The Reds will say he used his arm and he's already been red carded. Tui is gone for god knows how many weeks. I'd say three weeks but they could give him anything.

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[Rugbynutter39]

Fox sports commentators reckon Tui gone for 6-8 weeks. It looked pretty bad from where I sit so could see that for sure.

 

[Strewthcobber]

I don't think Higgers will get suspended. The Reds will say he used his arm and he's already been red carded. Tui is gone for god knows how many weeks. I'd say three weeks but they could give him anything.

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To decide an appropriate sanction (PK, YC or RC), referees should be considering:
o Contact point – where did the tackle start/finish, was contact with hand, arm or shoulder?
o Action – was the tackling action accidental, reckless or deliberate?
o Degree of force – severity of impact, does the tackler ‘carry on’ through the tackle, e.g. around the neck?

I reckon, even accepting he was attempting a tackle (and with the way he braced I'm not convinced especially the front on view), that was contacting his head with his shoulder, recklessly, and then Higgers carried on by dragging him round the neck to bring him to ground (basically a neck roll).

He's going to get some time off under the new WR (World Rugby) guidelines - and it's going to be longer than most think

 

[Scooter]

Tui’s shot looks horrible on replay. Long time out for him I expect.

Tui's shot looked horrible live too.

 

[Highlander35]

I reckon Higgers will be gone for a couple, but Tui will be lucky if he's playing before the bye. Who knows with match review, Higgers could be out for 4 a la SBW and Tui could somehow escape punishment altogether.

 

[KevinO]

Tui card has been upgraded to a Red. Find out his fate tonight

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[James Pettifer]

Tui card has been upgraded to a Red. Find out his fate tonight

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Not surprised. Everyone there knew it was red including the referee. Ok, maybe Higgers thought it should have been a penalty the other way.

 

[Scrubber2050]

JP Smith is the Reds' best pilferer in the absence of G Smith. Showed it in the Tens, the trials, and now showing it again.

I'd like to see him play prop