Stormers vs Queensland Reds @ Newlands - 2011R08
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Peter Sullivan (51)
I think the Reds performance rivaled the intensity against the Bulls last season, from the first big hit they looked like they wanted it more. They just were flat out all day and worked as a pack, just about every tackle was a gang tackle and just hurt the Stormers.
Would the Reds be the fittest team in S15?
I think Harris is a good foil for QC (Quade Cooper), I dont know if the Stormers stood off QC (Quade Cooper) a little bit but he seemed to have more time and space than I would have predicted before the game, I wonder if it was because they wore worried a cutout to Harris would leave them short.
Digby was quiet by his standards and out of position in defence a couple of times (about 10 m!!!) he rushed out of the line on a couple of occasions. I think that the Stormers would have been watching him cloesly waiting for him to rove in field and by him staying on the wing the Stormers defence had to play the full width of the field leaving more gaps in the centre to attack.
The scrums were interesting, it seemed that when the ref was on the Reds loose side then the Stormers would collapse against Slipper, as soon as he switched sides Slipper would dominate. Was this because the Stormers 1 was trying to bore in? Does this indicate in a fair scrum that Slipper can match anyone? I have previously said that I would love to see the blind side touchie in attendance at the scrum so both sides are judged up close to get a fair contest. This may also stop the resetting of scrums.
Would the Reds be the fittest team in S15?
I think Harris is a good foil for QC (Quade Cooper), I dont know if the Stormers stood off QC (Quade Cooper) a little bit but he seemed to have more time and space than I would have predicted before the game, I wonder if it was because they wore worried a cutout to Harris would leave them short.
Digby was quiet by his standards and out of position in defence a couple of times (about 10 m!!!) he rushed out of the line on a couple of occasions. I think that the Stormers would have been watching him cloesly waiting for him to rove in field and by him staying on the wing the Stormers defence had to play the full width of the field leaving more gaps in the centre to attack.
The scrums were interesting, it seemed that when the ref was on the Reds loose side then the Stormers would collapse against Slipper, as soon as he switched sides Slipper would dominate. Was this because the Stormers 1 was trying to bore in? Does this indicate in a fair scrum that Slipper can match anyone? I have previously said that I would love to see the blind side touchie in attendance at the scrum so both sides are judged up close to get a fair contest. This may also stop the resetting of scrums.
aussie1st
Alfred Walker (16)
No question, can't wait for Reds v Crusaders as they are the top 2 teams in the competition atm.
Hawko
Tony Shaw (54)
I agree. Harris kicking would have meant an extra 10 points or so to my fantasy team and a chance to knock off the $1K for me after corrections kick in! Not happy Link.
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John Solomon (38)
At this rate the Reds V Crusaders is going to be an absolute cracker, and will break record attendance in super rugby. That's if it can break the record set in two weeks time by the waratahs game
whatty
Bob Loudon (25)
Wrong country dude, thats a NZ trait. Other team is never better we just play badly sometimes.
Beaten by a better team playing against a team who had there worst game of the season. Even with 14 men for 60 mins probably would have lost that.
Wake up call hopefully before the away games.
Well done Reds could not have lost to a more humble bunch of guys!!! pffft
Bowside
Peter Johnson (47)
After spending a few seasons on the bottom of the table, no one seems to care about being humble anymore.
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TOCC
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No, the Reds aren't even the best team in the 2010 competition, that mantle falls to the Crusaders.
There is however no denying that beating the Stormers in Newlands is a very good effort..
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
That's a great result for the Reds, hats off to them. I look forward to watching a replay later on. The most pleasing part are the reports of good composure shown by Genia and Cooper and the pack really fronting up. That can only be a positive for later on in the year. Just kep doing it fellas.
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allitsab
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Maybe slightly OT, but as a Reds fan living in Sydney, I'm constantly amazed by the disdain shown by the local rugby press - most evident with the way (in my eyes at least) that the SMH "journos" update the ladder on the rugbyheaven site.
The full ladder shows Reds 2nd on the table, rather than the 1st place they should be occupying (I think it goes points, then wins this year, rather than points then differential), but you might explain that a simple misunderstanding.... Except for the fact, that earlier in the year, the ladder updating process stopped as it would have meant elevating the Reds above the Tahs..
The full ladder shows Reds 2nd on the table, rather than the 1st place they should be occupying (I think it goes points, then wins this year, rather than points then differential), but you might explain that a simple misunderstanding.... Except for the fact, that earlier in the year, the ladder updating process stopped as it would have meant elevating the Reds above the Tahs..
James Buchanan
Trevor Allan (34)
The Stormers played as well as the Reds let them play in that game.
Reds took the initiative and controlled the game and forced it to be played the way they wanted it to. That in itself is worthy of respect. Unsurprisingly, wins usually follow the ability to do that.
Lee Grant
John Eales (66)
Was good to see three good Oz scrums this weekend. It was no surprise to see Slipper do well but Daley's good effort surprised me a bit. Then, getting off topic: Alexander was righteous in his game; Ma'afu also.
But it is no use feeling chuffed about the scrums when the lineout is problematic. Coping with Bekker is always difficult but the Reds have the Bulls next week and Mr.Matfield.
Methinks Mr.McKenzie will be looking at the tape of the Crusaders' success against Bulls' lineout with some interest when he gets home. The Reds will have any easy week training before that game because of the trip back, but they'll have bit of lineout homework and maybe a bit of detention.
But it is no use feeling chuffed about the scrums when the lineout is problematic. Coping with Bekker is always difficult but the Reds have the Bulls next week and Mr.Matfield.
Methinks Mr.McKenzie will be looking at the tape of the Crusaders' success against Bulls' lineout with some interest when he gets home. The Reds will have any easy week training before that game because of the trip back, but they'll have bit of lineout homework and maybe a bit of detention.
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Peter Sullivan (51)
In all fairness, I thought the Line outs were pretty even between the two teams. Whilst I have no idea on the actual statistics, but it felted and seemed that it was pretty much tit for tat at the line outs. That is, we'd lose a line out, but also steal one.
Whilst I do think you're right that there will be a greater focus on it this week at training, I do think saying the Line out wasn't up to scratch is a bit harsh.
All in all, I think the best outcome was the zero injuries from the South African tour! It'll be interesting to see whether Link drops someone to bring in Humphries to help combat the Bulls line outs though.
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
Lee, I'm glad you saw it and it wasn't just my imagination that the Aussie scrums did well this week. I even saw the Brumbies dominating the Canes a couple of times.
whatty
Bob Loudon (25)
As I said the better team won. although not sure how the tactics forced them to drop the ball under no pressure. Your point goes so far but not in entirety as you are indicating.
James Buchanan
Trevor Allan (34)
I'm not sure what point you're referring to in dropping the ball with no pressure. Most of the knock ons I saw stemmed from contact.
However, I could suggest that there are many forms of pressure. I'd also suggest that stormers are not used to being on the back foot, scoreboard wise or positionally wise. There is a very plausible possibility that those, combined with the intense harassment the Reds brought to bear at the break down could have caused players to push passes that weren't there and try to do 'too much' in order to come back; when that is happening, handling errors creep into games, we see it all the time over in Australia.
Lee Grant
John Eales (66)
You miss the point, not that I made it, that it's the Reds throw-in lineouts that have to be fixed. The fact that they won a few of the Stormers throw-ins, either during the lineout proper, or a few seconds later, is neither here nor there. Those steals should be cream, not milk.
PS maybe some young'uns don't know about the old milk bottles where the cream rose to the top.
PaarlBok
Rod McCall (65)
Congrats to the Reds supporters with your team. A well deserved and hard worked victory. They looked passionate and hunger in this one specially their forwards. The one thing I like about the Reds is that they can change their gameplan with Cooper. He spread it well and then they can change it and yesterday they pin us back with the boot. Muskiet havent had the best of days but so were most of the Stormers. That two yellows cost us dearly and we were lucky not to had a third one. Thought Baba was lucky not to get one for his trip. I did like the bit of Johann Sadie when he made his Stormers debut, look full of running and surely one to watch in the future, that next Jean of Paarl Gym. Also thought Dewaldt played well behind a struggling pack and clean out well. Habana struggled all game. Back to the drawing board for our lot still surely would take one loss at the start of the season after 7 rounds anyday. S15 aint about losing one match, its about getting back on winning ways after that loss, which is important and Lions at home wont be easy for us.
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