Stormers vs Brumbies @ Newlands

[PaarlBok]

I don't recall this supposed intimidation gameplan?

There were quite a few series of handbags throughout the match, some of which were instigated by cheap shots from the Stormers early on...

The hyperbole being spat out by the commentators was pathetic....

Ja the commentators play rugby and the players tuned in. Awesome.

 

[PaarlBok]

I call it retaliation.

There is a rule for that, go check the rulebook.

 

[PaarlBok]

In my opinion the Brumbies were lucky not to be penalised more. Their scrum was a shower and they should have conceded a penalty try for collapsing the scrum.

Sure you love the Stormers scrumming.

 

[southsider]

i was very disappointed by the SA commentators, i am by no means a brumbies fan and the stormers are my favourite SA team, but their usual level headed unbiased commentary was not on show on the weekend and i think helped magnify the poor game Stuart Berry had.

 

[ChargerWA]

The SA commentators have devolved significantly the last two seasons. In 2013 they were considered the most neutral, now I'd have them last.

 

[PROPPY]

No chicken run for the Smiths mate, whole family immigrated already around 2006, plan was always to join their family

 

[PROPPY]

And look now what difference the twins made against the Lions 2nd half maybe just need more game time

 

[Viking]

And look now what difference the twins made against the Lions 2nd half maybe just need more game time

Didn't JP get schooled against the Stormers at scrum time - but then both Smith brothers looked good against the Lions. Hard to bloody tell what's going on.

 

[Slim 293]

Lions also replaced their front row?

 

[PaarlBok]

Lions also replaced their front row?

Lions scrum surely is one of the best in the competition. The Twins dominate them. Thats where the Brumbies won the match.

JP getting schooled? Malherbe/Koch schooled all LH's this season.

@ Proppy: I know them well , my kid was in the same class as the twins from WA Joubert to Gim.

 

[Viking]

Lions scrum surely is one of the best in the competition. The Twins dominate them. Thats where the Brumbies won the match.

JP getting schooled? Malherbe/Koch schooled all LH's this season.

@ Proppy: I know them well , my kid was in the same class as the twins from WA Joubert to Gim.

I thought the Stormers scrum looked stronger then the Lions... at least against the Brumbies anyway. Both strong though.

 

[PaarlBok]

I thought the Stormers scrum looked stronger then the Lions. at least against the Brumbies anyway. Both strong though.

I agree. Interesting thing is that the Stormers still havent contracted Vincent Koch. He is at the Pumas on contract and only got to the Stormers because the Lions havent shown interest in him. He'll play CC for the Pumas and may go to the Lions next year before getting off contract at the end of 2016.
Sport24

Koch shock for WP


Cape Town - Star Stormers prop Vincent Koch will not be available for Western Province in this year’s Currie Cup.
According to Netwerk24, Koch’s contract with the Pumas lasts until the end of 2016 and his home union has no intention of letting him go.
“He will play (Currie Cup rugby) for me in 2015 and 2016,” said Pumas president Hein Mentz.
“Our viewpoint is that we give players opportunities to improve. Therefore, we made Vincent available to the Stormers and Renaldo Bothma and Giant Mtyanda to the Sharks.
“Vincent was loaned to the Stormers because the Lions, our franchise partner, didn’t regard him as good enough.”
Mentz added that there is still uncertainty regarding the franchise composition for next year’s expanded Super Rugby competition.
Should the Pumas again form part of the Lions franchise, then that franchise would have first option to utilise Koch, otherwise he could return to play for the Stormers.
When probed about the possibility of selling Koch to Western Province on a permanent basis, Mentz said: “Money can’t buy everything. We have a long-term vision here. If you make short-term decisions, it could cost you in the long run.”
Koch has been a standout performer for the Stormers this year and with Frans Malherbe likely away at the Boks, his absence would be felt by WP in the Currie Cup.

 

[qwerty51]

He won't play CC - he'll play for the Boks won't he?

 

[PaarlBok]

He won't play CC - he'll play for the Boks won't he?

He is in the sqaud, but you never know what Meyer is going to do with the Dr Doep and his liking for the old age home Springboks. We havent had THs like Koch & Malherbe in years.

 

[Brumbieman]

Ok RE the scrums:

I don't rate JP, he doesn't seem to be up to this level, YET. I don't think it's technique, he just doesn't seem strong enough yet, which isn't reason to flick him, it just means that like all props, he needs time for his muscles to gain that extra hardness and strength that the late twenties provides.

Ruan is a beast, he's a very good, very strong tighthead who I think is actually better than Benny A at TH.

Alaaalaltoalaoaltotoala: Monster. Hugely strong, with good technique, and very solid round the park. At this stage, better than JP.

The twins came on after 50 odd minutes, against the tired first choice Lions row to begin with, and then against their reserve props.

So the previous week, we had JP and Benny A = poor combo against a very good combo

This week: Allan A + Benny A = solid combo against a very good Lions front row, and the scrums reflected that in the first half. Second half, the twins came on, but scrummed against the Lions reserve front row for the most part, and got the wood over them.

 

[PaarlBok]

No chicken run for the Smiths mate, whole family immigrated already around 2006, plan was always to join their family

Well JP then chicken run back to his roots.

http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/blog/details/smith-returns-to-wp