State of Origin Rugby

[Hugh Jarse]

So the NZ Loig team could be quite good if they had all eligible players released, as could the Samoa and Tonga Country of Origin teams. That could make for some international credibility for that game (in their eyes), but ultimately that game isn't going to grow beyond where it currently is established.

 

[Braveheart81]

In terms of where people qualify to play for, much the same exists in rugby union.

You can play for your country of birth, your parents country of birth of your grandparents countries of birth.

There aren't a whole lot of people who aren't eligible for multiple countries on that basis.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

^^^ On that basis, I know of a lad who could represent Australia (Residency), Hong Kong (or China?) (born there), USA (Mother's Country of birth), New Zealand (Father's Country of Birth), England (Grandmother's Country of Birth), Scotland (Grandfather's Country of Birth), Australia - Again (other Grandmother's Country of Birth) and Ireland (Other Grandfather's Country of Birth).

Good thing he is just a normal kid and unlikely to become the subject of an international bidding war for his signature. Could get messy.

How does it work with adopted kids and the trace back to the Grandparents? Does it follow the birth or adopted lines, or both? A real can of worms.

 

[TOCC]

Wasn't Nick Cummins from Queensland?

He grew up in Logan, his dad won Queenslander Father of the year...
Nick Cummins is a Queenslander

 

[boyo]

IIRC he's from Port Macquarie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Cummins

 

[TOCC]

Born in NSW..

I won't tell you where I'm born but it means nothing to who I support and barrack for.. Kids will typically adopt the parochialism of their parents or friends(ie where they grew up)

 

[I like to watch]

It's a moot point.
Everyone knows Port Macquarie is in Qld!

 

[Scrubber2050]

Can play for QLd if they saw a map of the place at school ?

Seriously the concept shoukld be simple. Would not be trying to get every rugby player involved - Just first game after school (wherever). A bloke like Matt To'omua who went to State High but straight to the Brumbies would therefore be ineligible for Queensland.

Just like the idea of having blokes (like Mowen, Moore, Moggy etc etc being available for QLD. Reckon the players would love the concept and the ability of playing for THEIR State against NSW

 

[TOCC]

NRL has a reasonable setup at the moment, the point system..

I don't think the first game after school is practical given the number of players signed directly from school these days, it should be a simple process but as the NRL has demonstrated, it isn't.

Under NRL rules, Quade Cooper wouldn't be allowed to play as he moved to QLD as a 13yr old, Will Genia would be ok since he moved over as a 12yr old. David Pocock who arrived at 14 wouldn't be allowed to play either.

 

[SouthernX]

Thing I like about State of Origin is the pride shown towards the jersey.

Berrick Barnes & Drew Mitchell to me had pride in the Reds jersey.. But once they slipped on that baby sky blue pride & loyalty went out the window.

Gotta put food on your table.

 

[qwerty51]

Best eligibility is surely whoever you played State Schoolboys for given most players made that rep team - if you didn't it would be who you would've played for when if selected so if you were in year 11/12 in NZ/ACT/Vic whatever you're not eligible too bad.

 

[Dismal Pillock]

so bored i wanted to see how awesome the Auckland team would be if side was chosen strictly by state of actual origin..... (bloody Wellington!)

Is there some list online for aussies birthplaces? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11278276
Weren't Quade and Bieber born in Auckland? Kepu and some other munters?

Auckland
Sonny Bill Williams
Rene Ranger
C.Faumiana
C.Piutau
S.Luatua
Tuipulotu
Kieran Read (come on, Papakura, thats fuckin' Auckland)
T.Woodcock

Waikato
Sam Cane
Conrad Smith
Beauden Barrett
Mealamu
Perenara (Porirua is Chiefs land?)

Christchurch
Crockett
Colin Slade
Matt Todd
D. Carter (?)
Brodie Retallick

Wellington (jesus!)
1. Owen Franks (Motueka is Canes catchment?)
2. D.Coles
3. Toomaga Allen
4. Luke Romano (Nelson would have to be Canes land?)
5. Sam Whitelock
6. Thrush
7. Liam Messam (Blenheim too?)
8. Vito
9. Aaron Smith
10. Cruden
11. J.Savea
12. Nonu
13. Ryan Crotty (nelson)
14. Cory Jane
15. I.Dagg

Otago
Mccaw
Ben Smith (haha, this team is fucked, NO PRICK is from Otago haha

Melbourne
Ben Franks
Tawera Kerr-Barlow

 

[RugbyReg]

QC (Quade Cooper) born in Tokora apparently.

Lealiifano and Dean Mumm are Auckland born I believe.

JOC (James O'Connor) born on the GC.

Pek Cowan born in Wellington.

 

[Jagman]

Kepu is born in Sydney.


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[Strewthcobber]

Skelton's kiwi born too I think

Genia would turn out for PNG and Moore for Saudi Arabia.

 

[RugbyReg]

Skelton is born in Auckland, along with Louise and Falealii’s. Then from the Reds you have Fakaosilea, CFS, Hunt, JJT and Tui.

 

[Dismal Pillock]

thanks fellas, will add them in, quick root thru auss wiki site also reveals

Joe Tomane (palmy)
Peter Betham (welly)

the NSW side looks like it would be ax-murder. QLND/Vic/WA etc not so flash

Louise and Falealii’s. Then from the Reds you have Fakaosilea, CFS, Hunt, JJT and Tui.

gahh, i dont even know any of thsoe names!

Auckland
Sonny Bill Williams
Rene Ranger
C.Faumiana
C.Piutau
S.Luatua
Tuipulotu
Kieran Read (come on, Papakura, thats fuckin' Auckland)
T.Woodcock
W.Skelton
Christian Lealiifano
Dean Mumm

Waikato
Sam Cane
Conrad Smith
Beauden Barrett
Mealamu
Perenara (Porirua is Chiefs land?)
Quade Cooper

Christchurch
Crockett
Colin Slade
Matt Todd
D. Carter (?)
Brodie Retallick

Wellington (jesus!)
1. Owen Franks (Motueka is Canes catchment?)
2. D.Coles
3. Toomaga Allen
4. Luke Romano (Nelson would have to be Canes land?)
5. Sam Whitelock
6. Thrush
7. Liam Messam (Blenheim too?)
8. Vito
9. Aaron Smith
10. Cruden
11. J.Savea
12. Nonu
13. Ryan Crotty (nelson)
14. Cory Jane
15. I.Dagg

bench
Peter Betham
Pek Cowan
Joe Tomane

Otago
Mccaw
Ben Smith (haha, this team is fucked, NO PRICK is from Otago haha

Melbourne
Ben Franks
Tawera Kerr-Barlow

 

[Dismal Pillock]

NSW
1 Benn Robinson
2 Polota-Nau
3 Sekope Kepu
4 Sam Carter
5 Dave Dennis
6 Scott Fardy
7 Michael Hooper
8 Wycliff Palu
9 Nick Phipps
10 Bernard Foley
11 Beale
12 Rob Horne
13 Ashley-Cooper
14 Nick Cummins
15 Israel Folau

bench
Luke Jones
Matt Hodgson
Ben McCalman
Tom English

Victoria
Liam Gill
To'omua

W.A
Scott Higginbotham

QLND
James Slipper
James Hanson
James Horwill
James Simmons
James McMahon
James Schatz
James O'Connor

not too imaginative with their child-naming, those Queenslanders haha

 

[Scrubber2050]

NSW
1 Benn Robinson
2 Polota-Nau
3 Sekope Kepu
4 Sam Carter
5 Dave Dennis
6 Scott Fardy
7 Michael Hooper
8 Wycliff Palu
9 Nick Phipps
10 Bernard Foley
11 Beale
12 Rob Horne
13 Ashley-Cooper
14 Nick Cummins
15 Israel Folau

bench
Luke Jones
Matt Hodgson
Ben McCalman
Tom English

Victoria
Liam Gill
To'omua

W.A
Scott Higginbotham

QLND
James Slipper
James Hanson
James Horwill
James Simmons
James McMahon
James Schatz
James O'Connor

not too imaginative with their child-naming, those Queenslanders haha

Fuck it ! Those 7 Queenslanders should well and truly dust up the 19 New South Wales blokes.

The passion we have makes the difference

 

[Wilson]

Mowen is another to add to the qld born