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SRP (Super Rugby Pacific) 2023 General Chat

Derpus

Nathan Sharpe (72)
I don't think it's a punishment, it's a really strong setup for attacking play and if a team can't get back up to the red zone off of it I'm not sure they deserve to be there. The alternative was a mess of reset scrums on a patch of turf that was often already chewed to shit.
Is it? Its turning a red zone possession into a midfield possession. 'Really strong' position seems an exaggeration.

I suppose I agree though that less scrums is good.
 

Wilson

Phil Kearns (64)
Is it? Its turning a red zone possession into a midfield possession. 'Really strong' position seems an exaggeration.

I suppose I agree though that less scrums is good.
It's midfield possession (usually within the oppositions half) with the defence coming from the try line, with a wide open field to run your attack from. The starter plays teams have been running off this have improved massively over the last couple of years since the rule came in and it's really not that lofty a goal to be back inside the 22 in a couple of phases. It also potentially provides great setup for a drop goal, or possibly a 50-22 off the back of a really long drop out.

As a fan I can't really think of any times I've thought oh no, not another goal line drop out when my team was receiving, where as I've definitely been frustrated or at the very least disengaged by another 5m scrum for my team - and I like scrums.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
I like the goal line dropout specifically because it rewards the defence for holding up the attacking team. I like that it flipped it around from being a clear reward to the attacking team (a 5m attacking scrum is one of the best attacking platforms you can have) to something that is far more neutral and gives the defence a chance.
 

HogansHeros

Jim Clark (26)
Not sure how recieving the ball within the half your attacking with the opposition having to run from their try line isnt an attacking opportunity?
Like BH said, rewards the defensive efforts of the defensive team and puts the attacking team in an attacking position. Win Win.
 

HogansHeros

Jim Clark (26)
I don't like the shot clock for kicks at all, it shouldn't be a specific limit rather just an onus on the referee to speed it up.

By making it a specific limit, it now allows kickers to use *all* the time rather than kick it when they're ready. I think it'll have the opposite effect really with more time wasted and players strategically using all their allocation near the end of games when otherwise they might not have. 60/90 is A LOT of time gone. Cobra effect if you get me.
Ya joking if you think this isnt going to speed up play.

The only time a kick was made within the now enforced timeframes was when a team was coming from behind, and that will continue to happen. Now there is just a cap on how much time a leading team can waste.
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
You think most penalty goals and kicks were taking up the full 90/60 or over? Nah doubt it. Now they'll maximum the time if ahead.
 

TSR

Andrew Slack (58)
There has been a lot of talk about the Tahs bulking up. I wonder if this will come back to bite them if these rules are effectively enforced.
 

Wilson

Phil Kearns (64)
There has been a lot of talk about the Tahs bulking up. I wonder if this will come back to bite them if these rules are effectively enforced.
I noticed Gordon warned a few times to use it in the last trial and the Reds were definitely lifting the pace on getting the ball, aiming to put pace them as much as possible.

That said, Coleman has talked about "playing themselves into fitness" so I think they're probably a ways behind where they want to be. So they may be ok once the season gets going, as long as it doesn't take too long and they don't lose too many in the meantime.
 

waiopehu oldboy

George Smith (75)
The "inner ear issue" that prevented Will Jordan going on EOYT is now being called a "migraine-related condition" that will keep him out of SRP (Super Rugby Pacific) for an unknown period of time :( Razor has options incl David Havili who prefers playing there, ex-Loss Bleau Melani Nanai & Chey Fihaki which is who I'd be starting.
 
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Dan54

David Wilson (68)
I not sure what clarifications are needed, medical/fitness gurus have a pretty good idea of what is needed to get players through season, so they should have (as they do) a plan to see them through season. It happens in any sport or should do.
 

Derpus

Nathan Sharpe (72)
If so it's pretty irritating. Surely we can introduce the trial rule changes AFTER the RWC.
You'd be pretty surprised if they introduced new rules a handful of tests before a world cup. So yeah, new rule trials could have come later.
 

LeCheese

Greg Davis (50)
If so it's pretty irritating. Surely we can introduce the trial rule changes AFTER the RWC.
Disagree tbh - none of these variations really impact the core skillsets of any players and how they play the game, aside from maybe the halfback at scrum time and speeding up (some) kicks.

All the variations are designed to speed up the 'out of play' side of the game and address issues that have arisen over the last few years - the sooner that can be implemented the better, from both a player and fan perspective.
 

HogansHeros

Jim Clark (26)
Disagree tbh - none of these variations really impact the core skillsets of any players and how they play the game, aside from maybe the halfback at scrum time and speeding up (some) kicks.

All the variations are designed to speed up the 'out of play' side of the game and address issues that have arisen over the last few years - the sooner that can be implemented the better, from both a player and fan perspective.
It appears they are trying to speed up the game for the WC, so people may actually watch it.
 
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