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Springboks v Wallabies, Loftus Versfeld, Sun 9th Jul 1.05am AEST

dusk

Vay Wilson (31)
That's it, rolls into Argentina in Sydney, NZ at MCG, NZ at Dunedin, warm up game against France in Paris, then the pool matches, quarter final against Argentina, semi against a battered Ireland, steam roll into a grandfinal against some bunch of posers then home for a victory lap by end of October.
Meant to ask the question in the u20's thread but still nice to know. Thanks
 

LeCheese

Greg Davis (50)
^ how much you throwing at the multi? Reckon $100 would probably get you $10K+
With available markets:
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KOB1987

John Eales (66)
When do they announce the side?
Around 5pm tomorrow I believe, unless you are in the camp that believes Christy Doran has already announced it. I’m not saying he’s wrong but a couple of selections seem a bit odd such as Hodge at 12 when Foketi is available and Holloway being left out when Frost is the only noted line out option in the starting side. We’ve seen these media ’announcements’ before and then found out they’ve been watching a bit of contingency planning at the training run, or someone hasn’t trained because of a niggle or a dodgy vindaloo or something. Not to mention Eddie likes to play mind games a tad. Anyways, we will know this time tomorrow.
 
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PhilClinton

Mark Loane (55)
There'd be no asterisk in the record books and it's still at altitude with a full house knowledgeable, partisan crowd. If you win there it would have to be a special feeling regardless.

Agree there would be no asterisk, but unfortunately with the respect rugby has at the moment in Australia, playing this weaker team from a publicity point of view provides little benefit.

We lose - the Wallabies and Jones get hammered in the media for losing to a Boks team missing 13 key players. Net effect is we lose more credibility with the Australian public

We win - the Wallabies and Jones get pumped up by the media, but no doubt there will be plenty of jibes about “this was a Boks A team” and the public will see little value in the win. The same way when the NBL Adelaide 36ers beat the Phoenix Suns this year in preseason, no one actually cared, even though it was a huge deal for Aussie basketball.

Anyway, go Wallabies!
 

BDA

Jim Lenehan (48)
Playing watered down sides in july is nothing new. The reality is that there aint much difference between a 2nd string boks side and a 1st string boks side (compared to a 2nd string wales or australia side). To suggest otherwise is just meaningless media spin..a win would be huge, a loss would just be a loss to South Africa in South Africa at altitude (which isnt the end of the world)
 

PhilClinton

Mark Loane (55)
Even if it’s happened in the past, these ‘weakened’ teams haven’t been the direct result of deliberately flying 13 of your best players to NZ for the game they deem more important.

It’s not like the All Blacks will be playing a weak side. The Boks know Oz rugby has lost its lustre and beating a Kiwi team in NZ holds a lot more clout with the media and their fans than beating a Wallaby team. It’s disappointing.

Side note: are Bok fans attending the game not upset? If the Wallabies deliberately rolled out essentially their A team into Suncorp to play a test match there would be uproar.
 

HogansHeros

Jim Clark (26)
Even if it’s happened in the past, these ‘weakened’ teams haven’t been the direct result of deliberately flying 13 of your best players to NZ for the game they deem more important.
In 2019 it was exactly the direct result of flying their best out for 1 of the TRC match and keeping a separate squad at home for the other TRC match...
 

dru

David Wilson (68)
Around 5pm tomorrow I believe, unless you are in the camp that believes Christy Doran has already announced it. I’m not saying he’s wrong but a couple of selections seem a bit odd such as Hodge at 12 when Foketi is available and Holloway being left out when Frost is the only noted line out option in the starting side. We’ve seen these media ’announcements’ before and then found out they’ve been watching a bit of contingency planning at the training run, or someone hasn’t trained because of a niggle or a dodgy vindaloo or something. Not to mention Eddie likes to play mind games a tad. Anyways, we will know this time tomorrow.

Strangely, Hodge over Foketi may be because EJ (Eddie Jones) wants Carter Gordon on the bench. No wait, don't laugh yet. It's tricky to have a specialist FH on the bench, especially if you also need a specialist 12 (Kerevi) on the same bench. And you're not going in without a HB on the bench. Hodge starts and can back up 15 if necessary. and wing actually. You've got a new FH and In centre to take the game home. We get to test Carter under the bright lights and give Kerevi game time without needing to start.

I don't think it's a slander on Foketi at all.

Lineout jumpers? Well, like you I wait to see what the hell they have in mind.


[Or of course its all a Doran wind up.]
 

dusk

Vay Wilson (31)
Would i be safe putting 50$ on the wallabies against south africa (3.8 return on betr) 190$ return. Like is this spring boks team the Aus A equivalent?
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Would i be safe putting 50$ on the wallabies against south africa (3.8 return on betr) 190$ return. Like is this spring boks team the Aus A equivalent?
Not in the slightest.

They have much superior depth to us but more importantly, Aus A is without the best 40 or so players in the country. They're just missing about 11 starters.
 
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