South Africa v World XV | 11 July | Cape Town

[Bairdy]

Saw that there was no thread - or hardly a mention of the match - so I figured I would start up a thread.

Chiefs back joins World XV squad

2015-07-04 13:10

Cape Town - Chiefs utility back Andrew Horrell has been called up to the World XV squad for their match against the Springboks in Cape Town next Saturday.

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The squad, coached by Robbie Deans and Bernard Laporte, assembles in Cape Town on Monday and they take on South Africa at Newlands on Saturday, July 11 at 17:00.

http://www.sport24.co.za/Rugby/Springboks/Chiefs-back-joins-World-XV-squad-20150704

World XV squad
Backs
Delon Armitage (Toulon, England) 26 caps
Luke Burgess (Melbourne Rebels, Australia) 37
JJ Engelbrecht (Bulls, South Africa) 12
Mike Harris (Reds, Australia) 10
Andrew Horrell (Chiefs) 0
Maxime Machenaud (Racing Metro, France) 16
Maxime Mermoz (Toulon, France) 30
David Smith (Toulon) 0
Lachlan Turner (Reds, Australia) 15
Rudi Wulf (Toulon, New Zealand) 4

Forwards
Steffon Armitage (Toulon, England) 5
Bakkies Botha (Toulon, South Africa) 85
Craig Burden (Toulon, South Africa) 0
Petrus du Plessis (Saracens) 0
Carl Hayman (Toulon, New Zealand) 45
Louis-Benoit Madaule (Bordeaux-Begles) 0
Alexandre Menini (Toulon, France) 6
David Roumieu (Bayonne) 0
Gurthrö Steenkamp (Toulouse, South Africa) 53
Jordan Taufua (Crusaders) 0
Flip van der Merwe (Bulls, South Africa) 35
Luke Whitelock (Crusaders, New Zealand) 1
Ali Williams (Toulon, New Zealand) 77


Potential World XV: Steenkamp, Burden, Hayman, Williams, Botha, Taufua, Armitage, Whitelock, Machenaud, Harris, Wulf, Horrell, Mermoz, Turner, Armitage.

 

[qwerty51]

Looks more like Toulon vs SA

 

[Troy]

Does anyone know if this is being televised like the AIG's game tomorrow?

 

[PiXeL_Ninja]

I find it ironic that Flip "Foul Play" van der Merwe is in the World XV lineup, considering how he walked away from the Boks after throwing his dummy re salary disputes. What is the code of ethics or is there an NDA for releasing a teams calls? Not suggesting he would, but I've always been curious about that? Anyone know?

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Does anyone know if this is being televised like the AIG's game tomorrow?

Can't find it in the listings but there's always the red button........... they're showing a replay of NZ Maori v Fiji late Sat/ early Sun so it's not out've the question (unless SARU sold the rights to someone like Setanta rather than M-Net).

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Ruan Pienaar, 8 Warren Whiteley, 7 Marcell Coetzee, 6 Francois Louw, 5 Victor Matfield (c), 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Oupa Mohoje, 20 Schalk Burger, 21 Cobus Reinach, 22 Pat Lambie, 23 Jean de Villiers.

Looks pretty first-string, hope it doesn't mean the dirt-trackers get a run the following week in BrisVegas.......................

 

[Blue]

I find it ironic that Flip "Foul Play" van der Merwe is in the World XV lineup, considering how he walked away from the Boks after throwing his dummy re salary disputes. What is the code of ethics or is there an NDA for releasing a teams calls? Not suggesting he would, but I've always been curious about that? Anyone know?

Can't imagine he knows much of the calls other than some lineout calls. He was out all of least year.

None issue.

 

[MajorlyRagerly]

SA should win this by 100. That is worst world XV team I think i've ever seen.

 

[qwerty51]

SA should win this by 100. That is worst world XV team I think i've ever seen.

It's a joke they're allowed that name. Some of them aren't even the best players in their position at their club!

 

[Highlander35]

The fact that there's 10 Toulon boys will probably help with team cohesion when select teams often don't have too much.

Other than that, it's a team for which getting steamrolled is very likely.

 

[Bairdy]

Jesse Kriel at 13 - the fuck? He's only played 15 at Super Rugby level has he not? Don't understand why Meyer doesn't just stick with Serfontein the incumbent.

 

[qwerty51]

http://news24.com/sport24/Rugby/Springboks/Meyer-Kriel-can-be-SAs-best-ever-centre-20150708

Not saying I agree but that is his reasoning.

 

[Bairdy]

World XV named for the match:

15 Delon Armitage, 14 Lachlan Turner, 13 JJ Engelbrecht, 12 Maxime Mermoz, 11 David Smith, 10 Mike Harris, 9 Luke Burgess, 8 Luke Whitelock, 7 Steffon Armitage, 6 Jordan Taufua, 5 Bakkies Botha, 4 Ali Williams, 3 Carl Hayman, 2 Craig Burden, 1 Gurthro Steenkamp.

Replacements: 16 David Roumieu, 17 Alexandre Menini, 18 Petrus du Plessis, 19 Flip Van der Merwe, 20 Louis-Benoit Madaule, 21 Maxime Machenaud, 22 Andrew Horrell, 23 Rudi Wulf.

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_61174,00.html

 

[Blue]

Jesse Kriel at 13 - the fuck? He's only played 15 at Super Rugby level has he not? Don't understand why Meyer doesn't just stick with Serfontein the incumbent.

Kriel was predominantly a 13 who got shoved into 15 by the Bulls after injury to their incumbent. He played a blinder and they kept him there. His preferred position is 13.

The Bulls talk about him as the long terms 13 as well. HE will be playing there as soon as they find a decent 15.

Even though there is a bit of risk to debut him in 13, would you try it against the world 15 or the Wallabies the next weekend?

Serfontein is a 12 who plays a bit of 13 and is just coming off a 5 month injury and id not considered to be ready to play.
JPP experiment at 13 seems to have been dropped.
Jacques Fourie came back out of shape from Japan.
JdV has been out for a year and is coming back off bench.
Frans Steyn playes 12 or 15.
The only other option in the squad is Lionel Mapoe who is a real 13.

I think most people in SA want to see how Kriel goes there. We have little to no depth at 13, and not much time to try things.

This game should be seen as a trial run and not much more.

 

[saulityvi]

Kriel was predominantly a 13 who got shoved into 15 by the Bulls after injury to their incumbent. He played a blinder and they kept him there. His preferred position is 13.

The Bulls talk about him as the long terms 13 as well. HE will be playing there as soon as they find a decent 15.

Even though there is a bit of risk to debut him in 13, would you try it against the world 15 or the Wallabies the next weekend?

Serfontein is a 12 who plays a bit of 13 and is just coming off a 5 month injury and id not considered to be ready to play.
JPP experiment at 13 seems to have been dropped.
Jacques Fourie came back out of shape from Japan.
JdV has been out for a year and is coming back off bench.
Frans Steyn playes 12 or 15.
The only other option in the squad is Lionel Mapoe who is a real 13.

I think most people in SA want to see how Kriel goes there. We have little to no depth at 13, and not much time to try things.

This game should be seen as a trial run and not much more.

Is JJ Engelbrecht injured or just not considered for selection?

 

[Bairdy]

Not considered due to form I would presume saulityvi. He will go head to head with Kriel in this match, though.

 

[Ulrich]

No surprises.

World XV were rather lethargic. Terrible actually.

Bok defence, even down to 13 men, never looked troubled and never really seemed to have to work hard.

Not the best preparation for the Boks, but better than none. Hopefully they don't get a false sense of confidence after this because it really wasn't test-quality.

On the plus, Kriel went well, de Allende went well, Burger, de Villiers, Koch, Coetzee and, Lambie went well but this cannot be seen as a true test of their character just yet.

Thought Pienaar was better than usual as well.

Farewell to Ali and Bakkies. True legends of the game.

 

[Blue]

Is JJ Engelbrecht injured or just not considered for selection?

Meyer finally figured out that he cannot pass. At all. Ever.

Or catch for that matter.

 

[saulityvi]

Yes, through watching the game now and cant see why JJ should be considered for Springbok selection.

I think De Allende was good, Schalk Burger was good, Koch had some good involvements once he came on. JdV looked good considering the circumstances, he will get better with more game time.

 

[ACT Crusader]

Poor quality game, but it was just positive seeing JDV running around again. An excellent player.