Shute Shield 2016

[I like to watch]

I think your maths is right,but Manly would need a 20 minute head start to beat Norths next week

 

[Quick Hands]

I think your maths is right,but Manly would need a 20 minute head start to beat Norths next week

Or a 20 minute game

 

[Brumby Runner]

Luke got the heart, Josh got the speed. Josh has sensational abilities, but he has always been totally allergic to the physical aspect of the game.


He would be a sensation in touch rugby.

Nah - he wasn't when given a start with the Aus 7s.

 

[I like to watch]

So Easts can't make the playoffs and Uni, Norths, Southern and Wicks are in and so should Eastwood be assuming they beat Gordon next week. Manly need to beat Norths and hope Wicks beat the Rats to beat the Rats into the 6. Although BPs may complicate things a bit and Manly have the advantage of 1 extra win than the Rats if they finish on equal competition points. Have I got it right?

For some reason you haven't contemplated that Woods,Rats & Marlins(with a bonus point) all might win.
Leaving Wicks high & dry

 

[wamberal]

Nah - he wasn't when given a start with the Aus 7s.

Errrr. Sevens players have to tackle. No tackling in Touch.

 

[Quick Hands]

For some reason you haven't contemplated that Woods,Rats & Marlins(with a bonus point) all might win.
Leaving Wicks high & dry

I think that the Wicks are quite safe. The Marlins will need to play at a level that they haven't be able to find in the previous 17 rounds to win with a 4 try bonus point. Still, anything is possible, Norths might go to the wrong ground.

 

[the coach]

For some reason you haven't contemplated that Woods,Rats & Marlins(with a bonus point) all might win.
Leaving Wicks high & dry

Eastwood can only catch Randwick on 61 points (assuming Randwick lose) and as Eastwood only have 10 wins (11 maybe after next week) they will miss out as Wicks already have 12 wins and my understanding is that the team with most wins is used first to split ties before points difference.

Is that correct HJ?

If Woods, Rats and Marlins all win Woods will miss the playoffs.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Round 17 Team Lists​

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Eastwood vs Randwick​

First Grade (Shute Shield)
Eastwood: 1. Sam Needs, 2. Damien Fitzpatrick, 3. Martin Plokstys, 4. James Neale, 5. Jared Barry, 6. Miles McCaffrey, 7. Cohen Masson, 8, Michael Kovacic, 9. Johnathan Malo, 10. Jai Ayoub, 11. Jarome MacKenzie, 12. Tom Hill, 13. Mike McDougall, 14. Cameron Mitchell, 15. John Grant
Randwick: 1. Dashville Kuate, 2. Peter Nau, 3. Tristan Goodbody, 4. Will Munro, 5. Ned Hanigan, 6. Nick Kellaway, 7. Jack Johnson, 8, Sam Croke, 9. Mitch Short, 10. Andrew Deegan, 11. Alofa Alofa, 12. Kuki Ma'afu, 13. Brogan Roods, 14. Chris Taripo, 15. Lachie Anderson

Second Grade (Colin Caird Shield)
Eastwood: 1. Wayne Borsak, 2. Ed Craig, 3. Rob Lagudi, 4. Jackson Larkin, 5. Tom Alexander, 6. Lachie Cannell, 7. Tom Murphy, 8, Joey Afualo, 9. Gerard McTaggart, 10. Wes Sefuiva, 11. Brodie Monroe, 12. Blake Sutton, 13. Ben James, 14. Nick O'Connor, 15. Mick Tamone
Randwick: 1. Andrew Tuala, 2. Tevita Vea, 3. Michael Celona, 4. Jesse Harris, 5. Lewis Taie, 6. Anthony Vasilis, 7. Declan O'Donahue, 8, Dave Parsons, 9. Harrison Goddard, 10. Harry Boileau, 11. Charlie McKay, 12. Ben Starkey, 13. Max Tackett, 14. Simon Kennewell, 15. Tom Coupland

Third Grade (Henderson Shield)
Eastwood: 1. Daniel Minto, 2. James Holden, 3. Dean Doumbos, 4. Nick Johnson, 5. Josh Anderson, 6. Paul Ng Shiu, 7. Dave Piukala, 8, Jack Warfield, 9. Patrick O'Connor, 10. Jackson Bird, 11. Andrew Ananin, 12. Sione Fangia, 13. Tai Luani, 14. Jack Brooks, 15. Jack Tourish
Randwick: 1. Drew Ferguson, 2. Pat Hodgetts, 3. Henry Leslie, 4. Lisi Fifita, 5. Valerio Ricci, 6. Sam Harrison, 7. Alex Harrod, 8, George Lolo, 9. Luke Rowntree, 10. Tom Wong, 11. Andy Early, 12. Jez Nelson, 13. Doug Brown, 14. Ned Robinson, 15. Andy Ball

Fourth Grade (Henderson Cup)
Eastwood: 1. Dave Fangaloka, 2. Luke Ferris, 3. Alex Pappalardo, 4. Sam Frogley, 5. Adrian Wyper, 6. David Feketi, 7. Conor O'Gorman, 8, Josh Harris, 9. Jordan Gillespie, 10. David Sutton, 11. Mark Frost, 12. Christian Hala, 13. Quin Filipaina, 14. Tom Wilson, 15. Brendan Maxworthy
Randwick: 1. Arturas Rachimanus, 2. Tom Weber, 3. Al Kahua, 4. Logan Chin, 5. Jeremiah Morkos, 6. Tim Murray, 7. Luke Roughton, 8, Tili Matakaiongo, 9. Tony Luxford, 10. Lachlan Kennealy, 11. Jack Musgrove, 12. Matt Considine, 13. Finau Makamaka, 14. Alex Peterson, 15. Tom Booth

Manly vs Gordon​

First Grade (Shute Shield)
Manly: 1. Hayden Stringer, 2. James Hilterbrand, 3. Mitch Lewis, 4. Adrian Hall, 5. Ed Gower, 6. Dan Alley, 7. Kotoni Ale, 8, Junior Palau, 9. Scott Bradley, 10. Sam Lane (c), 11. Josh Turner, 12. Nick Holton, 13. Dennis Pili-Gaitau, 14. Richard Hooper, 15. Brenden Hartmann
Gordon: 1. Nick Fraser, 2. Tobias Guikabau, 3. Ben Sala, 4. Rui Wilson, 5. Andrew Seton, 6. Luke Papworth, 7. Alex Gregory, 8, Jack Maguire, 9. Alex Barker, 10. Terry Preston, 11. Sam Mete, 12. Erik Moss, 13. Matt McDougal, 14. Ben Butler, 15. Andrew Bligh

Second Grade (Colin Caird Shield)
Manly: 1. Villi Vaka, 2. Vance Elliot, 3. John Baranyi, 4. Manuel Castagnet, 5. Saula Serukeibau, 6. Harry Bergelin, 7. James Graham, 8, Mitch Daniel (c), 9. Tim Donlan, 10. Shaun Treweek, 11. Chris Yarrington, 12. Oli Samuela, 13. Jacob Woodhouse, 14. Tom Chesters, 15. Kiwi Kapene-Belcher
Gordon: 1. Tom Parish, 2. Sam Milgate, 3. Aritema Ralulu, 4. Andrew Chapman, 5. Justin Rodgie, 6. Cameron Del Moro, 7. Cameron Thorburn, 8, Will Pasi, 9. Alex Simms, 10. Lachie Mitchel, 11. James Byrne, 12. Alec Palmer, 13. Andrew Boyce, 14. Scott Purcell, 15. Lachlan Brock

Third Grade (Henderson Shield)
Manly: 1. Alex Watson, 2. Dane Le Rougetel, 3. Dave Hart, 4. James Vail, 5. Craig Parfitt, 6. Harry Tier, 7. Will Foden, 8, Mark Watson, 9. Max Wood, 10. Jack Brisby, 11. Ryan Squires, 12. Anthony Bergelin (c), 13. Jarrad Roberts, 14. Harley Attwater, 15. Marshall Milroy
Gordon: 1. Billy Naati, 2. Michael Balk, 3. Ace Naati, 4. Grant Hutt, 5. Sam Bennetts, 6. Val Castelan, 7. Scott Nicol, 8, Luke Gardner, 9. Oscar Woods, 10. Ross Aitken, 11. Paul Katia, 12. Dom Woodward, 13. David Serukai, 14. Zac Scott, 15. Josh Mitchell

Fourth Grade (Henderson Cup)
Manly: 1. Sosaia Soane, 2. Gota Wykamp, 3. Alberto Novak, 4. Jackson Cooper, 5. George Hitchcock, 6. Ray Grewal, 7. Danny Boland, 8, Mak Fakai, 9. Nic Smart, 10. Brad Clarke, 11. Sullivan Jones, 12. Ian Tapaatoutai, 13. Scott Clemmett, 14. Oppy Takonok, 15. Mike Howard
Gordon: 1. Mark Philp, 2. Ambrose Milgate, 3. Rob Watkins, 4. Seton Humpreys, 5. Simon Van Brooyan, 6. Murilo Hunold, 7. James Jackson, 8, Mitch Lockley, 9. Ian Crothers, 10. Ben Traxcey, 11. Toby Saunders, 12. Will Shirvington, 13. Andrew Jones, 14. Neil Smail, 15. Adam Greaves

Parramatta vs Northern Suburbs​

First Grade (Shute Shield)
Parramatta: 1. David Lolohea, 2. Lui Taituave, 3. Nigel Vaifale, 4. Senio Toleafoa, 5. Sevaro Domoni, 6. Andrew Cox, 7. Pat Searson, 8, Tyrone Viiga, 9. Kaleb Rech, 10. Robbie Mate, 11. Robert Duff, 12. Moa Maliepo, 13. Josh Minhinnick, 14. Hayden Cole, 15. Niko Uele
Northern Suburbs: 1. Ezra Luxton, 2. Sam Kitchen, 3. Lawrance Hunting, 4. Nick Palmer, 5. James Brown, 6. Michael Smith, 7. Will Miller (c), 8, Hugh Sinclair (VC), 9. Mitch Magrath, 10. Harry Burey, 11. Lochie Creagh, 12. Irae Simone, 13. Jordan Heyer, 14. Stephan Van Der Walt, 15. Kepu Lokotui

Second Grade (Colin Caird Shield)
Parramatta: 1. Nick Blacklock, 2. Aaron Blacklock, 3. Sione Fonua, 4. Riley Carter, 5. James Benton, 6. Riley Jacobson, 7. Adrian Musico, 8, Sione Fifita, 9. Simon Tevita, 10. John Poe, 11. Gabby Kolinisau, 12. Johnny Yandall, 13. Frank Winterstein, 14. Tui Fa'Asisila, 15. Tom Woods
Northern Suburbs: 1. John Wunder, 2. Will Weeks, 3. Daniel Murray (c), 4. Leon Akopian, 5. Michael O'Hea, 6. Kyle Shewan, 7. Taylor Francis, 8, William Toola, 9. Tom Burnett, 10. Brendan Holliday, 11. Tom Gilbert, 12. Jackson Selby, 13. Blake Murray, 14. Larry Hermens, 15. Kurt Penney

Third Grade (Henderson Shield)
Parramatta: 1. Mike Saofia, 2. Tapu Ongoongo, 3. Brendan Crosilla, 4. Peter Brush, 5. Inia Qereqeretabua, 6. Steve Brodbeck, 7. Chris Tolson, 8, Jacob Delailoa, 9. Liam Tully, 10. Jason Roache, 11. Dylan Mario, 12. George Taufa, 13. Phil Pale, 14. Bryce Steele, 15. Lucas Baxter
Northern Suburbs: 1. Mike Dowsett, 2. Scott Podmore, 3. Will Hunting, 4. JaCK Harris, 5. Scott Stevens, 6. Ben Molloy, 7. Jono Corliss, 8, Jack Booker, 9. Cale Holmes, 10. Josh Smith, 11. Adam Jones, 12. Lachlan Porteous(vc), 13. Alec McSpadden, 14. Lupati Eni, 15. Matt Gordon

Fourth Grade (Henderson Cup)
Parramatta: 1. Vila Fangufangu, 2. Gerald Dzirutwe, 3. Lui Sakaria, 4. Jimmy Orake, 5. Sam Domoni, 6. Jake Richardson, 7. Ross Lumsden, 8, William Tuitupou, 9. Jonathon Lagos, 10. Tim Holliday, 11. Stirling Savona, 12. Ray Samoa, 13. Ryan Aniseko, 14. George Ili, 15. Mario Savona
Northern Suburbs: 1. Josh Clifton, 2. Andrew Dovgan, 3. Geoff Wells, 4. Justin Clark, 5. James Blanch, 6. Ben Martin, 7. Tommy Evans, 8, Al Hall, 9. Dom Longhurst, 10. Joe Jenkins, 11. Hugh Adams, 12. Nick Marshall, 13. Lincoln Sparkes, 14. Kevin Reed, 15. Max Elmes

Southern Districts vs Penrith​

First Grade (Shute Shield)
Southern Districts: 1. Matt Gibbon, 2. Brandon Paenga-Amosa, 3. Duncan Chubb, 4. Jake Douglas, 5. Angus Ryan, 6. Alex Perez, 7. Sean Doyle, 8, Marcus Carbone, 9. DeWet Roos, 10. Mitch Walton, 11. Ben Connolly, 12. Rohan Saifoloi, 13. Apolosi Latunipulu, 14. Luke Smart, 15. Chris Nay
Penrith: 1. Ikuna Manufetoa, 2. Fergus Mitra, 3. Monty Sopoaga, 4. Tuitakau Kioa, 5. Tupea Mata'u, 6. Taunaola Kei, 7. Sam Saiki, 8, Jason Haeva, 9. Joseph Faoagali, 10. Joseph Tafili, 11. Niko Dalivusa, 12. Junior Leo, 13. Paueli Halafihi, 14. Suni Fatialofa, 15. Keti Puilkala

Second Grade (Colin Caird Shield)
Southern Districts: 1. Conor Young, 2. Max Holland, 3. Willie Maumalanga, 4. Grant Staples, 5. Max Prieto, 6. John Palmer, 7. Michael Osmond, 8, Ed Leaney, 9. Waldo Wessels, 10. Bryant Hall, 11. Feleula Finau, 12. Peter Camilleri, 13. Sam Tabuatamata, 14. Matt Teki, 15. Jason Hofmeyr
Penrith: 1. Tevita Veikoso, 2. Jake Vandersteen, 3. Emanuele Fuamata, 4. Lima Salabuka, 5. Doug Want, 6. Benn Vaii, 7. Mathew Faoagalia, 8, Ridge Maxwell M Nelson, 9. David Isopo, 10. Sami Sopoaga, 11. Sam Tailiili, 12. Andrew Masinalupe, 13. Malone Harris, 14. James Sopoaga, 15. Viliame Namoamou

Third Grade (Henderson Shield)
Southern Districts: 1. Sam Lindsay, 2. Liam Dwyer, 3. Khaled Alfas, 4. Richard Friedman, 5. Andrew Wilson, 6. Puli Moimoi, 7. Mitch Haworth, 8, Vili Tabuatamata, 9. Jake Labrano, 10. Hawe Parata, 11. Oleni Ngungatau, 12. Salva Palamores, 13. Jake Kefford, 14. Callum Quinn, 15. Kevin Locke
Penrith: 1. Chris Tiatia, 2. Neil Nansen, 3. Laurnece Soula, 4. Sharma Masinalupe, 5. Francis Nansen, 6. Owen Crozier, 7. Vaii Sosaite, 8, Jay Purcell, 9. Fai Leatua, 10. Ejay Taualii, 11. Harrison Potifala, 12. Leti Sotega, 13. Connor Garten, 14. Etaule Salu, 15. Jacob Burrell

Fourth Grade (Henderson Cup)
Southern Districts: 1. Jake Mealey, 2. Andrew Jurksartis, 3. Tom Dawes, 4. Pat Oarth, 5. Stuart Wilson, 6. Brendan Tynan-Davey, 7. Rob Smith, 8, Patch Falson, 9. AJ Morris, 10. Sam Ryan, 11. Grant Ilses, 12. Bryce Campbell, 13. Michael McLoead, 14. Carl Pearce, 15. Rob McDowell
Penrith: 1. Sione Matangi, 2. Steven Naati, 3. David Moeaki, 4. Ben Rabaud, 5. Clayton Khann, 6. Colin Cheong, 7. Sioata Nai, 8, Timothy Bottomly, 9. Tautitapu Jun Marsters, 10. Maloni Tikolevu, 11. Filipe Labalaba, 12. Norman Ofoia, 13. Andrew Aiono, 14. James Thring, 15. Luke Wright

Warringah vs Eastern Suburbs​

First Grade (Shute Shield)
Warringah: 1. Rory O'Connor, 2. Luke Holmes, 3. Manessah Alaga, 4. Jack Tompkins, 5. Ben Adams, 6. Paula Kaho, 7. Tom O'Connor, 8, Sam Ward, 9. Josh Holmes, 10. Rodney Esekia Iona, 11. Max Jones, 12. Josh Gillard, 13. Seb Wileman, 14. Harry Jones, 15. Tyson Davis
Eastern Suburbs: 1. Steve Findlay, 2. Ryan Dalziel, 3. Clay Brodie, 4. Fergus Lee-Warner, 5. BJ Edwards, 6. Joel Duffy, 7. Rowan Perry, 8, Sam Stitcher (c), 9. Angus Pulver, 10. Archie King, 11. Charlie Clifton, 12. Josh Toole, 13. Alex Newsome, 14. Ratu Tagive, 15. Jack Maddocks

Second Grade (Colin Caird Shield)
Warringah: 1. AlatasiTuituiohu, 2. Robert Kelly, 3. George Amosa, 4. Tim Poynting, 5. Jordan Reid, 6. John Mokofisi, 7. Pierce Howell, 8, Adam Bate, 9. Patrick Curtin, 10. Matt Arnold, 11. Tom McMillan, 12. Jack Sullivan, 13. Chris Arnold, 14. Sean Davies, 15. John Loseli
Eastern Suburbs: 1. Liam Berry, 2. Chris Pusi, 3. Jack Payne, 4. Michael Ross, 5. Lachie Pigot, 6. Luke Cullinane, 7. Angus Brotherton, 8, Liam Moylan, 9. Jack Grant, 10. Cohan Guerra, 11. Rowland Kotobalavu, 12. Ed Keohane, 13. Nick Hedley, 14. Will Paterson, 15. Suaesi Iosua

Third Grade (Henderson Shield)
Warringah: 1. Jack Slack-Smith, 2. Matt Wedlake, 3. Jason Lautolo, 4. Alex Fowles, 5. Finlay Hillicks, 6. Michael Ritchie, 7. Jordan Fowles, 8, Sam Reid, 9. Calum Reid, 10. Luke Vescio, 11. Brayden Witham, 12. Harry Suters, 13. Calum Blyth, 14. Daniel Saggus, 15. Julian Huxley
Eastern Suburbs: 1. Matt Hooper, 2. Lindsey Stevens, 3. Damien Johnston, 4. Guy Beever, 5. Beau Jones, 6. Matt Mackay, 7. Alex King, 8, Luke Campbell, 9. Andrew Ferris, 10. Luke Jones, 11. Sam Devlin, 12. James Field, 13. Louis Taylor, 14. Scott Ferris, 15. Rhys Corbishley

Fourth Grade (Henderson Cup)
Warringah: 1. Pete Barrett, 2. Benny Benson, 3. Roy Vucago, 4. Hamish Finch, 5. Harrison Selby, 6. Jack Basham, 7. Jack Wheatley, 8, Tim Daleki, 9. Nathan Banks, 10. Josh Gerrard, 11. Billy Simpson, 12. Doug Dalziel, 13. Michael Pomare, 14. Jackson Stariha, 15. Mac Entwistle
Eastern Suburbs: 1. Luke Wilson, 2. Henry Holden, 3. Will Prell, 4. Devan Smith, 5. Kurt McFarlane, 6. Tom Clifton, 7. Sam Zlatevski, 8, Grant McCowan, 9. Jake Teirney, 10. Luke Irwin, 11. Henry Hart, 12. Liam Corbishley, 13. George Kokoulis, 14. Matt Eaton, 15. John Julian

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West Harbour vs Sydney University​

First Grade (Shute Shield)
West Harbour: 1. James Horrocks, 2. Dan Midgehall, 3. Villi Tino, 4. Jack Corry, 5. Tom Games, 6. Tom Patterson, 7. Jordan Tuapou, 8, Bradford Kapa, 9. Tayler Adams, 10. Kodie Hawkins, 11. Jack Dunn, 12. David Minute, 13. William Wardlaw, 14. Tim Hansen, 15. Justin Marsters
Sydney University: 1. Alex Batho, 2. Silatolu Latu, 3. Matthew Sandell, 4. Calum Buckling, 5. Lachlan Swinton, 6. Folau Fainga'a, 7. Hamish Dunbar, 8, Jake Wainright, 9. Jake Gordon, 10. Stuart Dunbar, 11. Christian Kagiassis, 12. Thomas Carter, 13. Jim Stewart, 14. Henry Clunies Ross, 15. Angus Roberts

Second Grade (Colin Caird Shield)
West Harbour: 1. Chris Vea, 2. Francois Coetzer, 3. Junior Satiu, 4. Tom Lonsdale, 5. Frazer Shaw, 6. Michael Fedo, 7. Jono Midgehall, 8, Lepi Leao, 9. Cleo Gomez, 10. James Blackwood, 11. Mitchell Gibbs, 12. James Blackwood, 13. Henrick Anthony, 14. David Moore, 15. Elia Morisio
Sydney University: 1. Jordan Sukkar, 2. Stewart Nutt, 3. Sione Talanoa, 4. Jack Blair, 5. Byron Hodge, 6. Sam Quinn, 7. Hugh Frazer, 8, Mitchell Whiteley, 9. Thomas Koerstz, 10. Jock Merriman, 11. Matthew Hood, 12. Fred Burdon, 13. Dylan Vieira, 14. Christian Yassmin, 15. Jack Redden

Third Grade (Henderson Shield)
West Harbour: 1. Aldo Trapanese, 2. Peter Woollete, 3. Edward Kelly, 4. Adam Barrington, 5. Sean Little, 6. Malaki Afele, 7. Anthony Charge, 8, Ryhs Sawford, 9. Jacob Follent, 10. Carlin Simon, 11. John Korosigana, 12. John Palmer, 13. Wilson Faa, 14. Shane Faaui, 15. Josh Raviti
Sydney University: 1. Alasdair King, 2. Jack Jones, 3. Samuel Vaoga, 4. Rhys Dombkins, 5. Oliver Gresham, 6. Benjamin Carolan, 7. Byron Wicken, 8, Jack Stanford, 9. Alexander Jackman, 10. Edward L'Estrange, 11. Mesake Tagituimua, 12. William Davies, 13. Sam Barclay, 14. Ben Cannon, 15. Harrison Blake

Fourth Grade (Henderson Cup)
West Harbour: 1. Jack Ulu, 2. Jason Khoury, 3. Ed Kelly, 4. Sam Williams, 5. Jonny Smith, 6. Ranvir Singh, 7. Junior, 8, Kolo Tutavake, 9. Tom Andrews, 10. Pascal Wallace, 11. Lawrence Leauma, 12. Dan Gave, 13. Wes Talanoa, 14. Setariki, 15. Campbell Hislop
Sydney University: 1. Jack Bliss, 2. Youki Takeuchi, 3. Alastair Ryan, 4. Nateni Qicatabua, 5. Tinashe Washaya, 6. Tyne Holmes, 7. Stuart Mill, 8, Maxwell Hughes, 9. Thomas Wilson, 10. William Macklin, 11. Dylan Oldfield, 12. Cameron Mason, 13. Nicholas Burden, 14. Samuel Harris, 15. Patrick Muller

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Round 17 Results​

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Intrust Shute Shield (1st Grade)
Eastwood 29 Randwick 14
Manly 31 Gordon 10
Parramatta 14 Northern Suburbs 45
Southern Districts 64 Penrith 13
Warringah 33 Eastern Suburbs 29
West Harbour 14 Sydney University 57

Colin Caird Shield (2nd Grade)
Eastwood 51 Randwick 17
Manly 38 Gordon 12
Parramatta 29 Northern Suburbs 38
Southern Districts 55 Penrith 6
Warringah 18 Eastern Suburbs 20
West Harbour 31 Sydney University 68

Henderson Shield (3rd Grade)
Eastwood 40 Randwick 3
Manly 43 Gordon 19
Parramatta 19 Northern Suburbs 22
Southern Districts 138 Penrith 0
Warringah 15 Eastern Suburbs 18
West Harbour 14 Sydney University 55

Henderson Cup (4th Grade)
Eastwood 30 Randwick 12
Manly 72 Gordon 0
Parramatta 0 Northern Suburbs 26
Southern Districts 57 Penrith 0
Warringah 7 Eastern Suburbs 8
West Harbour 5 Sydney University 26



Round 18 Games - 16 July
Eastern Suburbs v Southern Districts
Gordon v Eastwood
Northern Suburbs v Manly
Penrith v West Harbour
Randwick v Warringah (Sir Roden Cutler VC Shield Challenge)
Sydney University v Parramatta

 

[Hugh Jarse]

2016 Gregor George Cup (Club Championship) Watch:
(after Round 17)

There are a maximum of 215 points available to a club each week, based on all 7 club teams winning with a 4 try BP and the target to win is >3000 points which was achieved by 3 clubs in 2014 and the 2015 winner was on 2905 points. In 2014 the difference between 1st and 2nd was only 33 points, with 3rd only 52 points further back. In 2015 there was only 49 points between 1st and 2nd, with 3rd place 113 points further back.

Sydney University, 2904 points
Randwick, 2614 points
Northern Suburbs, 2540 points*
Eastwood, 2468 points
Eastern Suburbs, 2404 points
Southern Districts, 2297 points
Warringah, 2220 points
Manly, 2108 points*
Gordon, 1182 points*
Parramatta, 1104 points*
West Harbour, 781 points
Penrith, 154 points

How the Club Championship table is calculated.
The competition points from the individual competitions are multiplied by the following factors and then added together.
First Grade - 15
Second Grade - 8
Third Grade - 5
Fourth Grade - 4
Colts 1 - 6
Colts 2 - 3
Colts 3 - 2

The 49 point difference between Gold and Silver in 2015 could have been made up from an extra 3 BP in Shute Shield and an extra BP in 4th Grade, or an extra victory with a BP in 2nd Grade and an extra BP in Colts 1 and Colts 2.
http://rugby.fusesport.com/rugby/results/external/summaryladder.asp?ladder=1167&OrgID=010100


* Result from M2B v Shoremen in Colts 1, Colts 2 & Colts 3, and Highlanders v MMM in Colts 2 & Colts 3 to come.


2016 Club Champions
Sydney University have a lead of 290 over Randwick. Even if Sydney University lose all games without any bonus points and Randwick do the opposite, they can not lose the 2016 Club Championship.

The race for 2nd will be close. Norths have another potential 55 points from deferred Colts fixtures to make up which would place them on 2595, and in third place by only 19 points. Round 18 is Randiwix v Rats and Shoremen v MMM. No sure thing for both clubs.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Finals Crystal Ball
After round 17 there is some clarity to the finals shape, however not too many would have predicted the shape of the Shute Shield Ladder at this stage of the season before Round 1.

While 52 Competition points seems to be the traditional requirement to make the final 6, given the results so far this season it looks like teams will need around 60 points to comfortably be in the running for Finals.

Looking at the run home to see who the contenders really are:
Sydney University 64 points. To come: Parramatta.
Northern Suburbs, 63 points. To come: Manly.
Southern Districts, 63 points. To come: Eastern Suburbs.
Randwick, 61 points. To come: Warringah.
Warringah, 58 points. To come: Randwick.
Manly 57 points. To come: Northern Suburbs.
Eastwood, 56 points. To come: Gordon.
Eastern Suburbs, 52 points. To come: Southern Districts.


Parramatta (32), West Harbour (28), Gordon (14) and Penrith (2) are out of the running.

Using previous results and BP allocations (as fraught with danger that would be), as the results for Round 18, the finals contenders should be:

1. Northern Suburbs, 68 points (14 wins)
2. Sydney University, 68 points (13 wins)
3. Southern Districts, 65 points
4. Randwick 63 points (12 wins)
5. Warringah, 63 points (11 wins)
6. Eastwood, 61 points

7. Manly, 59 points
8. Eastern Suburbs, 57 points

Rule 8.2
In the event of two or more Clubs being equal on Competition points at the conclusion of the minor premiership competition, the Minor Premiership or any position in the respective competition table will be finalised by applying the following sequence:
1. The most number of wins;
2. The least number of losses;
3. The highest positive difference between actual points scored ‘for’ and points scored ‘against’
4. The highest points scored ‘for
5. The highest number of tries
6. The least number of proven offences as determined by the judiciary for that grade in that season
7. If at the end of this process two teams are still equal a playoff shall be conducted prior to the commencement of the finals series

Rule 33.1
Finals Series
Week 1 QF
Game A - 1st v 6th
Game B - 2nd v 5th
Game C - 3rd v 4th

Week 2 SF
Game D Highest Ranked Winner v Highest Ranked Loser
Game E 2nd Ranked Winner v 3rd Ranked Winner

Week 3 Grand Final
Winner Game D v Winner Game E

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Sir Roden Cutler VC Shield Challenge History 2016

2015 Holders Manly
1st Challenge Round 4 Sydney University defeat Manly
2nd Challenge Round 5 West Harbour defeat Sydney University
3rd Challenge Round 7 Randwick defeat West Harbour
4th Challenge Round 9 Randwick defeat Eastern Suburbs
5th Challenge Round 11 Southern Districts defeat Randwick
6th Challenge Round 13 Southern Districts defeat Eastwood
7th Challenge Round 12 Southern Districts defeat West Harbour (Deferred game & played after Round 13 fixture)
8th Challenge Round 16 Randwick defeat Southern Districts

To come
9th Challenge Round 18 Randwick v Warringah

 

[The Galah]

I think that the Wicks are quite safe. The Marlins will need to play at a level that they haven't be able to find in the previous 17 rounds to win with a 4 try bonus point. Still, anything is possible, Norths might go to the wrong ground.

The inability to close out the close games has cost MMM'S . Where's my mate DB ? Dave you are the Marlins guru what say you in the face of even our own deserting us ?

BTW if last years champs 4's miss finals footy it may all go back to a major mass subs gaffe against Souths in round 1 where what was a winning lead was given up by the best of intentions in giving all bench players a run but that club rugby

 

[Dave Beat]

The inability to close out the close games has cost MMM'S . Where's my mate DB ? Dave you are the Marlins guru what say you in the face of even our own deserting us ?

BTW if last years champs 4's miss finals footy it may all go back to a major mass subs gaffe against Souths in round 1 where what was a winning lead was given up by the best of intentions in giving all bench players a run but that club rugby

Now Galah - there from 4s watching the uncontested scrums.

Like the Woods i think we are one of 3 (now 4 teams given Tahs aren't looking good) teams that can go all the way - have to pack boots in the morning and turn up.

 

[Quick Hands]

The inability to close out the close games has cost MMM'S . Where's my mate DB ? Dave you are the Marlins guru what say you in the face of even our own deserting us ?

Not deserting the ship, I just know how fast and how far the ship is going. Still on board for the long haul, unfortunately 2016 won't be the year.

 

[I like to watch]

What games have you been watching Dave?
Even if the Marlins fluke a semi spot, they are canon fodder.
They are literally20-30 points weaker than last year.
It's possible that all 4 grades will miss the finals,when was the last time that occurred?
Hard to believe any senior coaches will have a role there next year.
Unless it's a cunning 5 year plan to dominate the Kentwell cup

 

[Dave Beat]

What games have you been watching Dave?
Even if the Marlins fluke a semi spot, they are canon fodder.
They are literally20-30 points weaker than last year.
It's possible that all 4 grades will miss the finals,when was the last time that occurred?
Hard to believe any senior coaches will have a role there next year.
Unless it's a cunning 5 year plan to dominate the Kentwell cup

I have watched ever game and apart from the rats game we were in the position to win every game.
Tells me the boys can play, just need to play 80.

 

[AussieDominance]

Outsiders perspective from being there yesterday whilst that 2nd grade side looked like it had some very good returning players something didn't seem quite right throughout the grades some changes are perhaps needed if they are continue Manly's high performance of the last five seasons. Is there much coming through from Colts next year as there won't be much in 2018 by the looks of it.

Are Manly still well resourced as they generally had a knack of getting quality imports the last few seasons? Change of culture regarding recruiting those type of players?

 

[I like to watch]

But they have proved over and over this season, that they can't play 80.
They won't be getting Lucas,Palu,Hodge,Neville etc etc to hide their deficiencies this year.

They showed zero starch v the Rats.
it was a must win game in terms of the ladder, a big local derby a few weeks before the finals,and they were insipid.
They never fired a shot.
Apart from the Riff,it was by far the easiest game the Rats played all year.
Time to stack the lower grades and hope to get something out of the year.

 

[Done that]

As another season draws to a close,it is worth looking at the state of our game & where it is headed in the future.
In a year when we see the Wallabies beaten 3-0 by England,& only the Brumbies likely to be involved in the Super 18 play offs,it behoves us to examine what is happening at a grass roots level,& how this is possibly influencing standards now & in all likelihood,into the future.
The Shute Shield historically has been the major competition in Australian Rugby,& the source of a large proportion of the players to represent at an international level.
Thus, it should be obvious that it remains important to maintain & expand this competition to it's greatest potential if Rugby is going to survive in this country.
In respect to the SS, once again we see Parramatta,West Harbour & Penrith,occupying the bottom of the respective competitions & Club Championship tables.
Other sports are making great inroads in the west of Sydney,while Rugby stagnates , or effectively retreates.
It is a recurring subject of complaint & concern on these pages each year ,& whilst most contributors have an allegiance to a particular club,I would hope that ,without exception,all would put their love of Rugby & desire to see it flourish ,ahead of any club connection. Because of this,I am astounded to learn that the SRU,who purport to represent all clubs & followers of our sport,are reportedly about to allocate this years SS grand final to North Sydney oval at the request & inducement of the local council there,the latter who would provide no benefits to grass roots rugby. Irrespective of the suitability of North Sydney oval to accommodate this event,which is itself questionable,surely they cannot be blind to the consequences & implications of removing this event from the West of Sydney,how this is perceived by the clubs in this neglected catchment area, who feel abandoned anyway, & struggle to find some relevance to the competition & promotion of our sport. Whilst the final decision will not be announced until next week ,is it too much to hope that an altruistic view of our sport & it's future,might prevail over the self interests of a few?