Shute Shield 2015

[Dave Beat]

Beasties are the most ridiculous team in all of sport. Get pumped by mid-table teams and lose to shit teams. Then they compete very well vs the big guns. How many times in the past year have they beaten or gotten really close to Uni, Eastwood and Manly?? They got pumped vs Souths, Randwick, Norths.

The fuck is wrong with them? Different coach too.

I hear you.

 

[Eyes and Ears]

Uni leading Randwick 23-3 with 20 to play.

 

[Eyes and Ears]

FT 29-15

 

[Hugh Jarse]

^^^ so much for a dour draw with the boot of Byron Hodge being the difference between a loss and the draw.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

Round 7 Results (finalised)

Shute Shield - First Grade
Eastern Suburbs 21 Eastwood 25
Gordon 21 Southern Districts 23
Northern Suburbs 13 Manly 17 (postponed - to June 7)
Parramatta 12 Warringah 24
West Harbour 48 Penrith 5
Sydney University 29 Randwick 15

Colin Caird Shield - Second Grade
Eastern Suburbs 16 Eastwood 12
Gordon 31 Southern Districts 27 (postponed - to 26 May)
Northern Suburbs 28 Manly 46 (postponed - to June 7)
Parramatta 35 Warringah 28
West Harbour 69 Penrith 5
Sydney University 28 Randwick 34 (played Tuesday Night, 5 May)

Henderson Shield - Third Grade
Eastern Suburbs 28 Eastwood 14 (postponed - to June 1)
Gordon 30 Southern Districts 12 (postponed - to 26 May)
Northern Suburbs 26 Manly 17 (postponed - to June 7)
Parramatta 0 Warringah 22
West Harbour 28 Penrith 0 (postponed - forfeited?)
Sydney University 17 Randwick 19 (played Tuesday Night, 5 May)

Henderson Cup - Fourth Grade
Eastern Suburbs 47 Eastwood 12 (postponed - to June 1)
Gordon 7 Southern Districts 5 (postponed - to 26 May)
Northern Suburbs 18 Manly 19 (postponed - to June 7)
Parramatta 3 Warringah 19
West Harbour 28 Penrith 0 (postponed - forfeited?)
Sydney University 36 Randwick 5 (played Tuesday Night, 5 May)

Round 8 Games - 9 May
Eastern Suburbs v West Harbour
Eastwood v Sydney University
Parramatta v Gordon
Randwick v Manly
Southern Districts v Northern Suburbs
Warringahv Penrith

Edit: Results from 5 May (Wicks v Students), 26 May (Gordon v Hobbits), 31 May (Woodies v Beasts), 7 June (MMM v Shoremen) added.

 

[the coach]

^^^ so much for a dour draw with the boot of Byron Hodge being the difference between a loss and the draw.

Well it was 2 tries each with Hodge's 5 penalty goals and 2 conversions v 1 penalty and 1 conversion by Horwitz providing the winning margin. Uni dominated the set plays and played to the conditions more effectively than the Wicks. Wicks had a couple of good scoring opportunities early in the game but strong defensive scrummaging by Uni turned them away. The better team definitely won, but the penalty count was very high in Uni's favour.

Although it wouldn't have made any difference to the result there were at least 4 occasions in the 2nd half when the referee blew time off but the scoreboard clock kept running. I'd estimate at least 1.5 minutes were lost as the referee blew full time as soon as the hooter went. So much for the referee being the sole judge of time

 

[wamberal]

Feel a bit sorry for Gordon, I did not see the whole game, but gee they put a lot of effort in.

 

[MACCA]

Well it was 2 tries each with Hodge's 5 penalty goals and 2 conversions v 1 penalty and 1 conversion by Horwitz providing the winning margin. Uni dominated the set plays and played to the conditions more effectively than the Wicks. Wicks had a couple of good scoring opportunities early in the game but strong defensive scrummaging by Uni turned them away. The better team definitely won, but the penalty count was very high in Uni's favour.

Although it wouldn't have made any difference to the result there were at least 4 occasions in the 2nd half when the referee blew time off but the scoreboard clock kept running. I'd estimate at least 1.5 minutes were lost as the referee blew full time as soon as the hooter went. So much for the referee being the sole judge of time

Well called Coach. I beg to differ about the set pieces. Thought both sides had periods of ascendancy. Was very disappointed with the Wicks inability to keep the referee on side. He blew them off the park and I was baffled with some of the decisions - for example, 2 Randwick attacking scrums 10 metres from the Uni line get penalised??? That was pretty much the deal all night. Don't think Uni will trouble Manly or Eastwood this year unless they improve a lot.

 

[Dave Beat]

That is Macca trying to keep the wicks under the radar, haven't seen them play yet but it reads like they are a young fast side, to beat them you will need to turn up ready to play and be a well drilled / oiled side with excellent defensive patterns and game focus.

 

[the coach]

Well called Coach. I beg to differ about the set pieces. Thought both sides had periods of ascendancy. Was very disappointed with the Wicks inability to keep the referee on side. He blew them off the park and I was baffled with some of the decisions - for example, 2 Randwick attacking scrums 10 metres from the Uni line get penalised??? That was pretty much the deal all night. Don't think Uni will trouble Manly or Eastwood this year unless they improve a lot.

Macca, I probably should have said that Uni seemed to win the critical scrums and lineouts, or received penalties from them.

 

[MACCA]

That is Macca trying to keep the wicks under the radar, haven't seen them play yet but it reads like they are a young fast side, to beat them you will need to turn up ready to play and be a well drilled / oiled side with excellent defensive patterns and game focus.

Love yer work DB. Do you suggest the Wicks lost on purpose to stay under the radar?? Methinks you are trying to divert the competition favourite status away from the Mighty Manly Marlins...

 

[Dave Beat]

I cant remember who you are playing next week.

 

[sidelinesid]

Young and fast may have some difficulty with big and strong and fast coupled with some old heads. hopes are for a dry track

 

[AussieDominance]

Gordon had led at half time in the last four games only to lose by small margins in every game (3 of them less than 7). I put it down to the scrum and belief.

If we can fix the scrum this side could easily turn into a top 4 side considering some of the sides they have achieved these results are almost permanently top 4.

 

[senior]

I agree. The set-piece has been a worry with the 3 top hookers injured/unavailable (Hobden, Goddard, Handlin) and top props Nick Fraser & Lefu Iaofo also injured. Gordon in a good place this year with plenty of depth and have still led at halftime despite this. I feel it's only a matter of time before the results start coming their way.

 

[AussieDominance]

Yes Cropley is also out and Parfitt is playing in HK(not expected to return). Lawley has come in to the group though but still it seems to lack a lot of top end depth with all doing reasonably well in 2nd grade.

Fraser is probably the best though and is being missed the most.

Some talk of some overseas props in the mixer though which hopefully comes to fruition.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

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Round 8 Team Lists ​

Eastwood v Sydney University – Live on 7TWO​

Eastwood (1-15)​

Sam Needs, Todd Pearce, Rob Lagudi, Tom Alexander, James Neale, Michael Kovacic, Hugh Perrett, Pat Sio, Mick Snowden, Jai Ayoub, Ben Shorter, Tom Hill, Mike McDougall, Brad Curtis, Ben Batger.​

Sydney University (1-15)​

Alastair Ryan, Thomas Coolican, Tomas Robertson, Byron Hodge, Liam Winton, Jake Wainwright, David Hickey, Mitchell Whiteley, Jake Gordon, Stuart Dunbar, Henry Clunies-Ross, James McMahon, Jim Stewart, Mark O’Dare, Jack Macklin.

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Eastern Suburbs v West Harbour​

Eastern Suburbs (1-15)
Sione Kolo, Clarrie Moore, Jake Ilnicki, Fergus Lee-Warne, BJ Edwards, Sam Stitcher, James Graham, Tala Gray, Angus Pulver, Robbie Mate, Charlie Clifton, Will Fay, Kataro Matsushima, Malakai Watene-Zelezniak, Will Paterson.
West Harbour (1-15)

Dave Lolohea, Dave Karamanis, Michael Ala'alatoa, Bradford Kapa, Tom Games, Kelly Meafua, Jordan Tuapou, Matt Coles, Mona Silipa, Ben James, David Moore, Henry Seavula, Rory Sidey, Joel Brooks, Angus Le Lievre.​

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Parramatta v Gordon​

Parramatta (1-15)​

Nick Blacklock, Liu Taituave, Nigel Vaifale, Seva Rokobaro, Evan Olmstead, Daniel Tamone, Evan Tuckwell, Andrew Cox, Kaled Rech, Chris Nay, Tui Faasisila, Regan Haika, Larry Hermens, Petero Satogo, Tom Woods.
Gordon (1-15)
Aritema Ralulu, Ron Hobden, Tobias Guikabau, Mark Johnson,Ruairidh Wilson, Jack Dempsey, Luke Rissman, Harry Rorke, Terry Preston, Mark Preston, Matt McDougall, Tom Matthews, Lucas Simkin, Sione Ala, Erik Moss.

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Randwick v Manly​

Randwick (1-15)
Toa Asa, David Vea, Latu Talakai, Dave Parsons, Will Munro, Sam Figg, Jack Johnson, Mark Baldwin, Mitch Short, David Horwitz, Latu Latinipulu, Ben Starkey, Kuki Ma’afu, Chris Taripo, Tom Coupland.
Manly (1-15)
Dane Maraki, Dave Porecki, Andrew Collins, Ed Gower, Dan Alley, Harry Bergelin, Kotoni Ale, Mitch Daniel, Matt Lucas, Sam Lane, Chris Yarrington, Reece Hodge, Dennis Pili-Gaitau, Richard Hooper, Brenden Hartmann.

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Southern Districts v Northern Suburbs​

Southern Districts (1-15)
Salesi Maumalanga, Brandon Paenga-Amosa, Cameron Betham, Jake Douglas, Andrew Leota, Albert Hemopo, Jono Hayes, Marcus Carbone, Dewet Roos, Ben Volavola, Luke Smart, Apolosi Latunipulu, Denny Godinet, Feluela Finau, Richie Williams.
Northern Suburbs (1-15)

Tyron Rota, Will Weeks, Lawrence Hunting, Nick Palmer, Michael O’Hea, Ben Matwijow, Will Miller, Sape Tamamasui Misa, Mitch Magrath, Josh Kay, Lochie Creagh, Ben Murray, Jorden Heyer, Richard Woolf, John Porch.​

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Warringah v Penrith​

Warringah (1-15)
Rory O’Connor, Robert Kelly, Wayne Borsack, Ben Adams, Junior Palau, James Cunningham, Luke Holmes, Sam Ward, Josh Holmes, Hamish Angus, Seb Wileman, Josh Gillard, Michael Adams, Brad Dixon, Dave Feltscheer.
Penrith (1-15)
Max Maa Nelson, Sam Siaki, Luke Bryan, Doug Want, Tu’itakau Kioa, Ben Vai, Paueli Halafihi, Jason Havea, Michael Baysaat, Johnny Poe, Sione Pusi’aki Fifita, Ben Kaafi, Saiosi Vulinaganavou, Aporosa Ada, Pauala Makasini.


Courtesy of Rugby News. http://www.rugbynews.net.au/intrust-shute-shield-rd8-team-lists/

 

[Dingasden]

Re the mercy rule, it depends whether you are of the view that referees should have the discretion to call these matches over early eg 10 mins early. Maybe we could have a competition rule, that the game is over when a team reaches 100.

You'd be a brave ref to call a game off based on your discretion.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

4/5 games last week with the margins a bit so-so. Tipping a draw was always a risky move.

Round 8 Tips
Eastern Suburbs v West Harbour. Beasties in close game with 4T BP, Pirates 2 BP.

Eastwood v Sydney University. The Corporations lucky run bubble is due to burst. Woodies by 10-15.

Parramatta v Gordon. Belly's Boys are overdue some chocolates. M2B by <7.

Randwick v Manly. Randi-Wix are always tough at home, but MMM have too much native cunning. MMM by 15+.

Southern Districts v Northern Suburbs. The Short Shoeless Ones from The Shire are genuine Finalist contenders. Time to get serious about their title tilt. Hobbits by 10-15.

Warringah v Penrith. Penrith continue to struggle, and like a good Guinness, they don't travel well. Rats by
35+.

 

[the coach]

You'd be a brave ref to call a game off based on your discretion.

You're probably right, but with the score at 100-0 it would seem the only thing to be gained by continuing are injuries.