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Chris McKivat (8)
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Shute Shield 2013
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It is what it is
John Solomon (38)
Maybe the big benefactor from up Newcastle way is involved.
Surely it can't be All Too Hard.
the coach
Bob Davidson (42)
I'll go a step further and suggest that 6 team playoffs in a 12 team competition where at least 2-3 of the teams (last year) were not competitive is ridiculous. Let's get back to 2 full home-and-away rounds with 5 team playoffs.
Knuckles
Ted Thorn (20)
I'm led to believe by people at SRU that the reason why they can't play a full 22 round season is because the ABC have said they dont have the budget to do that many rounds anymore. They want 4 weeks worth of finals (SRU get the gate for these weeks) to rake in the cash. So, despite SRU paying around $100k to the ABC for the privilege of them filming the matches, the structure is dictated to SRU by ABC.
Personally, my belief is so what? 22 rounds is the best way to go. I also agree on the top 5 set up for finals. It's the best and fairest way to go. If it happens that 4 0r 5 rounds aren't televised becasue of ABC budgetting, what does it matter? As long as they have the last 18 rounds and finals I'd be comfortable with that. ABC could then blame it on the lawn bowls!!
Rob
Sydney Middleton (9)
Bit of a circular situation here because I understand that the ABC is not yet committed to doing any games next year.
Re next years comp structure I understand it is an 18 round comp (rather than 16 rounds) with a 8 team semi series. No details yet on how the 18 rounds will play out.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
the coach
Bob Davidson (42)
Yes, me too!
From Manly's perspective we have always wanted 22 rounds, still want 22 rounds and remian unclear why this isn't being offered in 2013. The point was made at the Presidents meeting - show the 3pm game for 18 rounds if needed, and don't show it for the other 4 rounds. Lets not base the entirety of the schedule around the ABC requirements. We are one club who keeps our gate, so the loss of 2 games could affect us by up to 30k....No one from the hierarchy of the NSWRU/SRU (and I use that term advisedly) has demonstrated to us how to fill that gap. In a time when our code is under attack, the response to play less rugby is curious to say the least.
Lets hope it will be a fairer draw in 2013 and not give teams a leg up as was clearly the case in 2102....
Lets hope it will be a fairer draw in 2013 and not give teams a leg up as was clearly the case in 2102....
the coach
Bob Davidson (42)
I was under the impression (not sure why and I may be wrong) that the ARU had for some reason influenced the shorter season.
I believe there were times in the past when the ABC didn't start its coverage until a few rounds into the comp due to other commitments so I agree completely that this shouldn't be having any influence on the number of rounds played.
hawktrain
Ted Thorn (20)
Does anyone know if Club Rugby TV will be operating again next year? I loved being able to watch a couple more games midweek, and often between teams that don't get many ABC games. I know Fairfax were funding them so there must be a fair chance they'll wind up before next season.
Blackers13
Syd Malcolm (24)
So Manly take or profit $15k per match? Either way that's serious cash and well deserved after years of being in the upper echelon. We have stated openly we don't care if its 22, 16 or 14 rounds so happy to support your push to maintain your cash flow. But please, your final, thinly veiled bitchy comment is based on what? In the end, the upper echelon were in the final 4 and Uni won it so God is in his heaven. Meanwhile, 2 western Sydney clubs played semis and did more for Rugby in Western Sydney than the ARU has done in the last 15 years. While soundly beaten by the Marlins in the second semi, Parra didn't give up and their supporters were numerous and proud. On the back of that finish, Parramatta now has over 90 boys fronting for Pre season Colts training. Sponsors are now calling us and we will continue to grow. Rather than whining, lets figure out how we can promote the game. After all the clubs nominate the SRU so our destiny is largely in our own hands.
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Wow, naive and insolent. My apologies, didn't mean to upset the passionate two blues people. Just an opinion (my mistake for thinking that this was the purpose of a public forum) that I will stand by at the moment until I see evidence to the contrary. Perhaps if parra can get rid of the giant chip on their shoulder they may go better (light hearted comment - please no more name calling).
Not writing off Randwick or Easts - not sure where they will fit when the time comes but their problems are real. After all coaches threatening a walk out due to the GM has little to do with the licensed club side of things.
Gordon Rugby players will now have the opportunity to gain educational scholarships with the University of Technology Sydney. This is the result of a ground breaking 2 year sponsorship agreement between Gordon and the UTS for the 2013/14 seasons.
It is part of Gordon Rugby’s strategic plan to provide educational pathways for their players that will ultimately lead to a chosen professional field, and presenting UTS as the number one choice for players to complete their tertiary studies.
As part of the sponsorship agreement a number of Gordon Rugby / UTS Scholarships will be available to talented players to support them in their chosen courses at UTS.
Former Wallaby and current 1st Grade Colts coach Mark Hartill says the Scholarships will provide a unique opportunity only available to Gordon Rugby players. “This provides Gordon Junior Rugby players and others with a pathway to play at the highest level in the Sydney competition and at the same time financial support in their chosen University of Technology course at either the Broadway or Lindfield campus.”
The UTS logo will feature on the front of all Gordon Grade and Colts jerseys. UTS will also have primary branding rights on the scoreboard and grandstand at Chatswood Oval, starting in season 2013.
The club has already had an ongoing relationship with UTS over several years.. Several high profile players have been part of the UTS Elite and Emerging Athlete Program , as well as being members of the UTS Rugby Union 7s squad that won gold at the Australian University Games in 2011 season.
There will be opportunities for UTS students, in particular studying for Human Movement and Sports Management degrees, to take up internships with the club in strength and conditioning, video analysis, coaching or sports development
UTS Union CEO Liz Brett says the partnership will see some unique opportunities for the UTS Community. “For UTS to be involved with an elite Rugby club in NSW is a positive step and adds weight to the higher end of our holistic sporting program. It ticks a lot of boxes in terms of student and staff engagement, both passive and active, as well as providing the university with fantastic brand exposure. The partnership is complimentary as both parties are actively engaged in providing dual career and sporting pathways for students.”
Gordon is one of the iconic clubs in Sydney Rugby Union.The club has won the Sydney First Grade Premiership on eight occasions, and the Club Championship 13 times. The Gordon club has produced many great Australian Test players including former Wallaby captains Stirling Mortlock ,Peter Sullivan, Bob Davidson and Trevor Allen.
It is part of Gordon Rugby’s strategic plan to provide educational pathways for their players that will ultimately lead to a chosen professional field, and presenting UTS as the number one choice for players to complete their tertiary studies.
As part of the sponsorship agreement a number of Gordon Rugby / UTS Scholarships will be available to talented players to support them in their chosen courses at UTS.
Former Wallaby and current 1st Grade Colts coach Mark Hartill says the Scholarships will provide a unique opportunity only available to Gordon Rugby players. “This provides Gordon Junior Rugby players and others with a pathway to play at the highest level in the Sydney competition and at the same time financial support in their chosen University of Technology course at either the Broadway or Lindfield campus.”
The UTS logo will feature on the front of all Gordon Grade and Colts jerseys. UTS will also have primary branding rights on the scoreboard and grandstand at Chatswood Oval, starting in season 2013.
The club has already had an ongoing relationship with UTS over several years.. Several high profile players have been part of the UTS Elite and Emerging Athlete Program , as well as being members of the UTS Rugby Union 7s squad that won gold at the Australian University Games in 2011 season.
There will be opportunities for UTS students, in particular studying for Human Movement and Sports Management degrees, to take up internships with the club in strength and conditioning, video analysis, coaching or sports development
UTS Union CEO Liz Brett says the partnership will see some unique opportunities for the UTS Community. “For UTS to be involved with an elite Rugby club in NSW is a positive step and adds weight to the higher end of our holistic sporting program. It ticks a lot of boxes in terms of student and staff engagement, both passive and active, as well as providing the university with fantastic brand exposure. The partnership is complimentary as both parties are actively engaged in providing dual career and sporting pathways for students.”
Gordon is one of the iconic clubs in Sydney Rugby Union.The club has won the Sydney First Grade Premiership on eight occasions, and the Club Championship 13 times. The Gordon club has produced many great Australian Test players including former Wallaby captains Stirling Mortlock ,Peter Sullivan, Bob Davidson and Trevor Allen.
Blackers13
Syd Malcolm (24)
Well done Gordon. This was in yesterday's Herald.
When Parramatta Rugby Club named Ryan Aniseko its most improved player this season, the prize could have been for his efforts off the field as much as on it. The star first grader had been working as a labourer to support his dream of making a career in rugby union.
But when he discovered that his club, known as the Two Blues, in partnership with Merrylands RSL, was offering players the chance to study TAFE-accredited courses inside the team's clubhouse, he began to see a different future for himself.
On Saturday, Aniseko, who moved from Tonga in 2002, sat his final exam, earning him a Certificate III in Information Technology, allowing him to work as a computer technician instead of a physical labourer.
Many sporting clubs are embracing a more holistic approach in what they offer.
The 133-year-old Parramatta club, which was faced with extinction two years ago, took the opportunity to diversify.
The direction has proved popular with the community and, not necessarily by coincidence, has come alongside comparatively successful rugby results.
"When I heard about the course, I just thought I could better myself by going with it, taking it on," Aniseko said.
"I didn't have any computer skills but the course has taught me a thing or two. I feel like it's a job I could do now.
I just thought it was a really good opportunity, too good to miss. The other boys at the club want to do the course now as well."
Two Blues' general manager, Michael Bell, said the club consisted of approximately 80 per cent players of Polynesian heritage, many of whom were from disadvantaged backgrounds.
"Because maybe dad was a labourer or something, the kids would leave school early and throw bricks for a living," Bell said.
"We wanted to help them break that mould. We want to give them alternate options to progress their careers, and do it within the footy club environment.
"It's giving the guys confidence and self-belief, which goes a long way."
After surviving calls for it to be ejected from the Sydney competition in 2010, Bell asked players and patrons how they wanted the club to be restructured.
With a grant from the state government and crucial financial support from Merrylands RSL, the Two Blues upgraded their facilities, including turning a clubhouse room into a classroom.
"Some of these guys left school early because there were uncomfortable in that environment," Bell said.
"Here, they get to study at the club, with their mates, in their time.
We want to win games, but we also want everyone to have a good lifestyle as well."
Aniseko, who this season helped his team to its first semi-finals appearance in 21 years, said he wouldn't have studied further if the Two Blues and Merrylands RSL partnership hadn't established the education program.
"It's at the club, just down the road from me ... I don't think I'd be as comfortable doing the course somewhere else," he said.
"A lot of the boys are similar to me, not having an educational background.
"But when they see the boys doing classes, it helps. It's good for them to see the other boys doing something good off the field."
When Parramatta Rugby Club named Ryan Aniseko its most improved player this season, the prize could have been for his efforts off the field as much as on it. The star first grader had been working as a labourer to support his dream of making a career in rugby union.
But when he discovered that his club, known as the Two Blues, in partnership with Merrylands RSL, was offering players the chance to study TAFE-accredited courses inside the team's clubhouse, he began to see a different future for himself.
On Saturday, Aniseko, who moved from Tonga in 2002, sat his final exam, earning him a Certificate III in Information Technology, allowing him to work as a computer technician instead of a physical labourer.
Many sporting clubs are embracing a more holistic approach in what they offer.
The 133-year-old Parramatta club, which was faced with extinction two years ago, took the opportunity to diversify.
The direction has proved popular with the community and, not necessarily by coincidence, has come alongside comparatively successful rugby results.
"When I heard about the course, I just thought I could better myself by going with it, taking it on," Aniseko said.
"I didn't have any computer skills but the course has taught me a thing or two. I feel like it's a job I could do now.
I just thought it was a really good opportunity, too good to miss. The other boys at the club want to do the course now as well."
Two Blues' general manager, Michael Bell, said the club consisted of approximately 80 per cent players of Polynesian heritage, many of whom were from disadvantaged backgrounds.
"Because maybe dad was a labourer or something, the kids would leave school early and throw bricks for a living," Bell said.
"We wanted to help them break that mould. We want to give them alternate options to progress their careers, and do it within the footy club environment.
"It's giving the guys confidence and self-belief, which goes a long way."
After surviving calls for it to be ejected from the Sydney competition in 2010, Bell asked players and patrons how they wanted the club to be restructured.
With a grant from the state government and crucial financial support from Merrylands RSL, the Two Blues upgraded their facilities, including turning a clubhouse room into a classroom.
"Some of these guys left school early because there were uncomfortable in that environment," Bell said.
"Here, they get to study at the club, with their mates, in their time.
We want to win games, but we also want everyone to have a good lifestyle as well."
Aniseko, who this season helped his team to its first semi-finals appearance in 21 years, said he wouldn't have studied further if the Two Blues and Merrylands RSL partnership hadn't established the education program.
"It's at the club, just down the road from me ... I don't think I'd be as comfortable doing the course somewhere else," he said.
"A lot of the boys are similar to me, not having an educational background.
"But when they see the boys doing classes, it helps. It's good for them to see the other boys doing something good off the field."
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
That is how you grow the game in Sydney's west.
Well done, Belly.
Stuff Quade Cooper's prima donna nonsense, Michael Bell should be on an ARU Top Up contract.
Well done, Belly.
Stuff Quade Cooper's prima donna nonsense, Michael Bell should be on an ARU Top Up contract.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
It's a perfect example of the necessary ingenuity that is needed in trying to spread the game in these regions. Well done. Good luck to Parra and the boys involved in this endeavour. In terms of the likes of Western Sydney and the Islander population that lives in the area (not only them but we'll use the above example) look to whatever opportunities they can to provide something of a better life for both them and their families. That's why many gravitate toward League.
By setting up such education schemes, one's that offer the opportunity to create something better for these young men while using Rugby as their conduit to this future, you'd be surprised how successful that such a program could potentially be.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
Or, and this is revolutionary. The money Quade could have received could be better in establishing more of these programs in the forms of scholarships or training initiatives. Could also be used to fund schools development by setting competitions in the region and such. Quade clearly won't need it as he's going to make billions as a boxer.
Andrew B Cox
Sydney Middleton (9)
This is very impressive.
Before professionalism, ingenuity was part of Rugby's DNA - because we couldn't offer cash (or weren't supposed to) we had to offer a bit more. And use our noggin in what we could offer.
Well done Parramatta. If the biggest trick in gaining players is not losing them in the first place, you're ahead of the curve.
Before professionalism, ingenuity was part of Rugby's DNA - because we couldn't offer cash (or weren't supposed to) we had to offer a bit more. And use our noggin in what we could offer.
Well done Parramatta. If the biggest trick in gaining players is not losing them in the first place, you're ahead of the curve.
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