School sporting scholarships/recruitment

[Balmain Subbies]

Oh Subbie....please read again.

There have been over 240 indigenous students pass through SJC since the inception of the fund back in 2001. In that time TWO students (Dylan Ashby the other) from that cohort has played for the 1st XV. But the fund has produced many young men who have become teachers, soldiers, doctors, local leaders and solicitors all giving back to their community. A ONE has become a Wallaby.

Yawnnnnn

Hey Joker, once again you've twisted what I said. I personally think the indigenous scholarships are great. I just enjoy how Joey's got Beale, who was a clear talent well before he set foot at hunters hill, and descised what was a clear sports scholarship under the indigenous program.

 

[I like to watch]

Thanks bud

Ok sure you know them, no worries at all

Toddler response of “because so” that’s exactly what you’re doing, like exactly. I asked in my last post show me the evidence and you have??? Zero, none, squat, absolutely no evidence what so ever

Clearly you don’t, or don’t want to say.
Either pretty much destroys your credibility.

Where are we with your position about ramping up the professionalism now?

 

[southsider]

Clearly you don’t, or don’t want to say.
Either pretty much destroys your credibility.

Where are we with your position about ramping up the professionalism now?

Go on champ, one bit of evidence, I don’t mind what it is you can choose

 

[I like to watch]

^^^^^^^like a toddler cupping his ears cos he doesn’t like what he’s hearing.....

 

[southsider]

^^^^^^^like a toddler cupping his ears cos he doesn’t like what he’s hearing...

Awww cmon champ don’t be like that

I said you can provide any piece of evidence you want

 

[I like to watch]

its perverse that you clearly think your immature posts are proving your point.

I’ve clearly stated in the past the training schedules,it’s a worry that you have no capacity to retain information.
Go back and quote me,and by all means tell me where I’m wrong.....

Or keep on stomping your feet like a toddler, either or, I’m not really bothered.
Either way I’m done with you, posting barbs to and fro adds nothing.

 

[southsider]

its perverse that you clearly think your immature posts are proving your point.

I’ve clearly stated in the past the training schedules,it’s a worry that you have no capacity to retain information.
Go back and quote me,and by all means tell me where I’m wrong...

Or keep on stomping your feet like a toddler, either or, I’m not really bothered.
Either way I’m done with you, posting barbs to and fro adds nothing.

Don’t get those knickers in a twist champ! I believe you, I really do!

I just wanted one little tiny piece of evidence that’s all!

Also side note you mention toddlers way too much for someone who has the screen name I like to watch! Yikessssss

 

[Joker]

 

[The Honey Badger]

Ya kidding if you think the training they do equates to that of pro football teams, it’s not even the same as u20’s RL

I have you guys arguing these points about juggling academics and sports at a gps school as if I didn’t do exactly that myself, I know exactly what it’s like and I get the impression that everyone arguing against it is older and hasn’t experienced this first hand.

To be honest I think they’ve reached their peak of “professionalism” they can’t really take it any further than it already is outside of broadcasting it on tv like they used to do on ABC occasionally

FFS, the training the boys do is insane.

Rowing probably just a tad worse than rugby.

 

[Balmain Subbies]

FFS, the training the boys do is insane.

Rowing probably just a tad worse than rugby.

There is no way a school 1st xv trains harder that a U20 league or union rep side. Southside is correct on this. Another point of like to discuss further is this idea that GPS titles help enrollment s. I'd love to see some evidence

 

[The Honey Badger]

There is no way a school 1st xv trains harder that a U20 league or union rep side. Southside is correct on this. Another point of like to discuss further is this idea that GPS titles help enrollment s. I'd love to see some evidence

All the schools are full. Why fo they care about enrollments? Shore, apparently the least successful Rugby school, next to impossible to get admission.

 

[formerflanker]

Let me guess at the weekly rugby workload of a year 12 GPS or CAS student during the rugby season.
Game day; 2 gym sessions; 3 field sessions; and 3 lunchtime meetings.

Monday early am, gym session.
Monday lunchtime, discussion of video analysis.
Monday after school, field training - a light run focussed on ball work and practicing attack and defence systems.
Tuesday after school, field session. Hard S&C work followed by unit skills and a team run.
Wednesday early am, gym session. (optional hyperbaric chamber sessions for TSC)
Thursday lunchtime, game day strategies and opposition analysis.
Thursday after school, field session. Hard S&C work followed by unit skills and a longer team and captain's run.
Friday lunchtime, team bonding over lunch.
Friday after school, kicking practice for some.
Saturday morning, support a junior rugby team.
Saturday noon to 7.00pm game prep, play, socialise.
Sunday individual arrangements for recovery session. Receive video and do self analysis.

If that nearly correct, I can see there is plenty of time for academic lessons, homework/study, and some time off.
There are many individual circumstances that will have an impact on the student's availability for all the requirements but that's the nature of independent school rugby.
B&W - I'm sure "time management" would be a mantra for Housemasters!

 

[formerflanker]

FFS, the training the boys do is insane.

Rowing probably just a tad worse than rugby.

Could you look at my other post on the actual workload, and let me know how close to/far off the mark I am?
I'm very interested to compare today's workloads to "back in the day" regimes.

 

[formerflanker]

All the schools are full. Why fo they care about enrollments? Shore, apparently the least successful Rugby school, next to impossible to get admission.

No, not impossible. You just have to invite the registrar to your wife's delivery room and get the paperwork done then.

 

[The Honey Badger]

There is no way a school 1st xv trains harder that a U20 league or union rep side. Southside is correct on this.

Rep sides come together for short periods of time. Usually just a few weeks.

Players go into camp.

Yes they do S&C work. But the emphasis at the training is usually skills and learning plays and working on combinations.

A season of GPS rugby is months of S&C work. Up to 6 days a week. Starting 6:00 am in the morning. Day boys may have to travel an hour to make. It is insane as I said.

50 years ago school trained 2 afternoons a week and put the best 15 boys out onto a field on Saturday. Progressively it has changed to greater training and with recruitment it has fueled more training.

 

[Up the Guts]

Could you look at my other post on the actual workload, and let me know how close to/far off the mark I am?
I'm very interested to compare today's workloads to "back in the day" regimes.

You’re about right, 3x field sessions, 2 x strength and conditioning, 3 x video analysis and team meetings (at least at Shore). I’d caution against timetabling everything and pronouncing there’s time for other activities. If you’re a top athlete/scholar you’re looking at a year of limited sleep.

I’m only aware of about 3 boys in the last 3 years who have managed to play 1st XV and achieve 99+ ATARs. I’m sure in the past there were many more renaissance men.

 

[Spieber]

Anyone here who supports using poor kids to advance their enrollments and endowments needs to visit the room of mirrors, pull their pants down, bend over, and have good hard look at themselves.
https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/08-12-2018/who-actually-benefits-from-school-rugby-player-poaching/

 

[Spieber]

Posted at 1:30AM. what's that they say about all great things happen after midnight?

Different time zone champ.

Edit: but in my time zone at the end of the day it is stiil 11.59 pm.

 

[southsider]

Let me guess at the weekly rugby workload of a year 12 GPS or CAS student during the rugby season.
Game day; 2 gym sessions; 3 field sessions; and 3 lunchtime meetings.

Monday early am, gym session.
Monday lunchtime, discussion of video analysis.
Monday after school, field training - a light run focussed on ball work and practicing attack and defence systems.
Tuesday after school, field session. Hard S&C work followed by unit skills and a team run.
Wednesday early am, gym session. (optional hyperbaric chamber sessions for TSC)
Thursday lunchtime, game day strategies and opposition analysis.
Thursday after school, field session. Hard S&C work followed by unit skills and a longer team and captain's run.
Friday lunchtime, team bonding over lunch.
Friday after school, kicking practice for some.
Saturday morning, support a junior rugby team.
Saturday noon to 7.00pm game prep, play, socialise.
Sunday individual arrangements for recovery session. Receive video and do self analysis.

If that nearly correct, I can see there is plenty of time for academic lessons, homework/study, and some time off.
There are many individual circumstances that will have an impact on the student's availability for all the requirements but that's the nature of independent school rugby.
B&W - I'm sure "time management" would be a mantra for Housemasters!

Pretty spot on - add in scrum school once a week to compliment kicking classes

We also didn’t do quite as much video analysis, one of the team as a whole then option individual if you wanted, never really focussed on the opposition

 

[southsider]

FFS, the training the boys do is insane.

Rowing probably just a tad worse than rugby.

I’d say rowing is way worse, the early morning alone are absolute killers