PaarlBok
Rod McCall (65)
PRG sanix squad.
http://blog.schoolboyrugby.co.za/?p=10373#comment-100180
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Sanix Youth Tournament: Japan
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fairplay
Johnnie Wallace (23)
Well..gulp...Australia are sending Brisbane Boys College who finished 4th (or fifth) in their local comp last year.
Hopefully they can do better than Edmunds last year but I don't hold out to much hope.
I am not sure of how this works politically and financially but it seems that NZ and SA send their best Schools while we just send whoever puts their hands up and can afford the tickets (however Nudgee in 2012 was a good choice, and that School would be good choice most years).
It would be great it Australia took this more seriously.
Having said that, good luck, Green, White, Black.
Hopefully they can do better than Edmunds last year but I don't hold out to much hope.
I am not sure of how this works politically and financially but it seems that NZ and SA send their best Schools while we just send whoever puts their hands up and can afford the tickets (however Nudgee in 2012 was a good choice, and that School would be good choice most years).
It would be great it Australia took this more seriously.
Having said that, good luck, Green, White, Black.
Happy to Chat
Nev Cottrell (35)
I agree it should be the cream of the crop, however most of the players that are in the winning team are not there to compete in the Sanix the following year. So it does end up being a double edged sword.
Lee Grant
John Eales (66)
I can't recall that Australia has ever sent a cream-of-the-crop candidate, though there has probably been the odd exception through the years by accident.
Kings and TSS were selected back in the day but more recent invitees have been Westfields (who actually won it)—and Prairewood, which is not known by many in Sydney as being a rugby school; nor is the location of the suburb common knowledge.
It would be a decision by the ASRFU and since Aussie Schools rugby has been accused of being win-at-all-costs and elitist, we can scarcely be critical of their inviting schools which have little chance of winning.
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Kings and TSS were selected back in the day but more recent invitees have been Westfields (who actually won it)—and Prairewood, which is not known by many in Sydney as being a rugby school; nor is the location of the suburb common knowledge.
It would be a decision by the ASRFU and since Aussie Schools rugby has been accused of being win-at-all-costs and elitist, we can scarcely be critical of their inviting schools which have little chance of winning.
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PaarlBok
Rod McCall (65)
SA works the same Boet, PRG last year ended the best in years , second behind Grey Bloem. Its their 150 year and the reason why they go.
BBC are taking a squad of 30 and are coached by the current Australian Schoolboys Coach- maybe thats why they were selected( put their hand up )
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Previous Australian Participation in Sanix tournaments along with their placing and the winner.
2000 - Won by Kings School (NSW)
2001 - St Josephs College, Hunters Hill (NSW) (not in top 4) - Won by Grey College (SA)
2002 - Randwick Boys’ High School (NSW) (6th-8th) - won by Boland Agricultural College (SA)
2003 - St Edmund’s College (Qld) (9th) - won by Rotorua Boys High School (NZ)
2004 - St Stanislaus College (NSW) (4th) - won by Rotorua Boys High School (NZ)
2005 - The Southport School (Qld) (2nd) - won by Christchurch Boys’ High School (NZ)
2006 - Marist College (ACT) (6th) - won by Christchurch Boys’ High School (NZ)
2007 - Won by Westfield Sports High School (NSW)
2008 - St Edmund’s College (ACT) (4th) - Won by Glenwood High School (SA)
2009 - Prariewood High School (NSW) (8th) - won by Dax Landes High School (FRA)
2010 - The Hills Sports High School (NSW) (3rd) - Won by Hamilton Boys; High School (NZ)
2011 - No AUS team - Won by Hamilton Boys’ High School (NZ)
2012 - St Stanislaus College (NSW) (15th) - won by Kelston Boys’ High School (NZ)
2013 - St Joseph’s College Nudgee (Qld) (3rd) - won by St Kentigern College (NZ)
2014 - St Edmunds College (Qld) (7th) - won by Hamilton Boys’ High School (NZ)
ref: http://sanix-sports.info/rugby/english/diary.cgi?field=1
NZ Schools have won this tournament 9 times since 2000. The NZ Team for Sanix is usually (but not always) the previous years National First XV Champion team.
2000 St Peters College, Auckland
2001 Wesley College
2002 Rotorua Boys High School / Napier Boys High School
2003 Rotorua Boys High School
2004 Christchurch Boys’ High School / Wesley College
2005 Christchurch Boys’ High School
2006 Christchurch Boys’ High School
2007 Gisborne Boys High School
2008 De La Salle College / Hamilton Boys High School
2009 Hamilton Boys High School
2010 Mount Albert Grammar School
2011 Kelston Boys High School
2012 St Kentigern College
2013 Hamilton Boys High School
2014 Hamilton Boys High School / Scots College
ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_First_XV_Championship_(New_Zealand)
Google couldn’t help me to find a year by year list of the best SAF schoolboy First XV to see if the SAF representative is the top First XV or not.
There doesn't seem to be any rhyme nor reason behind which Australian School attends Sanix.
There is no national First XV Championship, and Schools in the various fiefdoms in Sydney and in Queensland seldom play outside their chosen neighbourhood, and when they do, it is usually a trial match prior to commencing their School Association competition games with the coaches still experimenting with their lineups and combinations.
Of the last 14 AUS representatives:
8 NSW, 4 Qld, 2 ACT.
10 Private Schools, 4 State Schools.
10 "Big" Rugby Schools (NSW AAGPS 2, Qld GPS 2, NSW ISA 2, Qld AIC 2, ACT Schools 2) , 4 Schools without a regular rugby competition (2 selective sports schools, 2 regular schools)
12 Individual Schools have attended, with 2 schools attending twice: St Stanislaus College (2004, 2012), St Edmunds College (Qld) (2003, 2014).
2000 - Won by Kings School (NSW)
2001 - St Josephs College, Hunters Hill (NSW) (not in top 4) - Won by Grey College (SA)
2002 - Randwick Boys’ High School (NSW) (6th-8th) - won by Boland Agricultural College (SA)
2003 - St Edmund’s College (Qld) (9th) - won by Rotorua Boys High School (NZ)
2004 - St Stanislaus College (NSW) (4th) - won by Rotorua Boys High School (NZ)
2005 - The Southport School (Qld) (2nd) - won by Christchurch Boys’ High School (NZ)
2006 - Marist College (ACT) (6th) - won by Christchurch Boys’ High School (NZ)
2007 - Won by Westfield Sports High School (NSW)
2008 - St Edmund’s College (ACT) (4th) - Won by Glenwood High School (SA)
2009 - Prariewood High School (NSW) (8th) - won by Dax Landes High School (FRA)
2010 - The Hills Sports High School (NSW) (3rd) - Won by Hamilton Boys; High School (NZ)
2011 - No AUS team - Won by Hamilton Boys’ High School (NZ)
2012 - St Stanislaus College (NSW) (15th) - won by Kelston Boys’ High School (NZ)
2013 - St Joseph’s College Nudgee (Qld) (3rd) - won by St Kentigern College (NZ)
2014 - St Edmunds College (Qld) (7th) - won by Hamilton Boys’ High School (NZ)
ref: http://sanix-sports.info/rugby/english/diary.cgi?field=1
NZ Schools have won this tournament 9 times since 2000. The NZ Team for Sanix is usually (but not always) the previous years National First XV Champion team.
2000 St Peters College, Auckland
2001 Wesley College
2002 Rotorua Boys High School / Napier Boys High School
2003 Rotorua Boys High School
2004 Christchurch Boys’ High School / Wesley College
2005 Christchurch Boys’ High School
2006 Christchurch Boys’ High School
2007 Gisborne Boys High School
2008 De La Salle College / Hamilton Boys High School
2009 Hamilton Boys High School
2010 Mount Albert Grammar School
2011 Kelston Boys High School
2012 St Kentigern College
2013 Hamilton Boys High School
2014 Hamilton Boys High School / Scots College
ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_First_XV_Championship_(New_Zealand)
Google couldn’t help me to find a year by year list of the best SAF schoolboy First XV to see if the SAF representative is the top First XV or not.
There doesn't seem to be any rhyme nor reason behind which Australian School attends Sanix.
There is no national First XV Championship, and Schools in the various fiefdoms in Sydney and in Queensland seldom play outside their chosen neighbourhood, and when they do, it is usually a trial match prior to commencing their School Association competition games with the coaches still experimenting with their lineups and combinations.
Of the last 14 AUS representatives:
8 NSW, 4 Qld, 2 ACT.
10 Private Schools, 4 State Schools.
10 "Big" Rugby Schools (NSW AAGPS 2, Qld GPS 2, NSW ISA 2, Qld AIC 2, ACT Schools 2) , 4 Schools without a regular rugby competition (2 selective sports schools, 2 regular schools)
12 Individual Schools have attended, with 2 schools attending twice: St Stanislaus College (2004, 2012), St Edmunds College (Qld) (2003, 2014).
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
^^^IIRC, St Augustine's were going in 2010 and there was an earthquake, tsunami and nuclear powerplant accident so they pulled out.
PaarlBok
Rod McCall (65)
I have been watching Paul Roos now against Affies and was saturday in PE when they played their interschools match vs Grey High. Look like a good unit and expect nothing less then bringing home this trophe. They have a big and powerfull pack backed up by probable the best schools backlines in SA. When you have twomoutside backs docking 110 kgs and speedy and have some midgets to feed off them with some excellent inside distributors then you have something good going. They are in a special 150 year and not rated nr1 in SA for nothing at the moment.
Rugby365
Rugby365
Dewald Nel
Cyril Towers (30)
Interesting. That's the year after Derick Hougaard matriculated there - 2002 was his first year at the Blue Bulls/Bulls. Maybe that's the reason they were invited, because I remember their team was far from the best in the country that year.
PaarlBok
Rod McCall (65)
Think we discuss it earlier. Problem with this tournament is the timing. Our schoolboy season only starting now.
fairplay
Johnnie Wallace (23)
Same problem here.
Our boys are playing their first real matches of the year in a premier "bragging rights" tournament.
It is like having our rowers in the Henley Regatta before the start of the season.
Of course it is just a seasonal thing.
I would just love to see the best HS sides playing each other when they are at their peak, not some schools at the beginning of their season and some at the end of their season (I don't know the Japanese season and let us be honest, they have 50% of the teams but have still not ever won, but thank you for putting it together)
We can't even get a national championship game in Australia, with the best schools playing each other at the end of the season.
It shouldn't be that hard to coordinate.
If, in Australia we are intending to grow the grass roots ( who are admittedly private schools for better or worse) lets at least make a final for a nationwide schoolboys title. FFS it would only take a few extra games at the end of the regular season.
Our boys are playing their first real matches of the year in a premier "bragging rights" tournament.
It is like having our rowers in the Henley Regatta before the start of the season.
Of course it is just a seasonal thing.
I would just love to see the best HS sides playing each other when they are at their peak, not some schools at the beginning of their season and some at the end of their season (I don't know the Japanese season and let us be honest, they have 50% of the teams but have still not ever won, but thank you for putting it together)
We can't even get a national championship game in Australia, with the best schools playing each other at the end of the season.
It shouldn't be that hard to coordinate.
If, in Australia we are intending to grow the grass roots ( who are admittedly private schools for better or worse) lets at least make a final for a nationwide schoolboys title. FFS it would only take a few extra games at the end of the regular season.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Brisbane Boys College won their first Pool D game against Gose Industrial High School by 27 - 10 to get 5 match points (4 pts for win and 1 BP for 4 Tries).
4 tries, 2 Conversions, 1 PG to 1 Try, 1 Conversion, 1 PG.
Results: http://sanix-sports.info/rugby/2015/result/m4-29.pdf
Next Game for BBC is 30 April at 14:00 (local Japan time) against Nagasaki Hokuyodai High School.
Final Pool game for BBC is 2 May at 12:15 (Japan time) against Baek Shin High School from Korea.
Nagasaki Hokuyodai High School defeated Baek Shin High School by 17 - 12 in todays other Pool D game.
4 tries, 2 Conversions, 1 PG to 1 Try, 1 Conversion, 1 PG.
Results: http://sanix-sports.info/rugby/2015/result/m4-29.pdf
Next Game for BBC is 30 April at 14:00 (local Japan time) against Nagasaki Hokuyodai High School.
Final Pool game for BBC is 2 May at 12:15 (Japan time) against Baek Shin High School from Korea.
Nagasaki Hokuyodai High School defeated Baek Shin High School by 17 - 12 in todays other Pool D game.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
In the Sanix Girls Sevens Section, a Brisbane State High School team has been invited.
At the Sanix Tournament in Japan, they are up against:
4 Overseas teams
Brisbane State High School (Australia)
Robert Bateman Secondary School (Canada)
Hong Kong Sports School (Hong Kong)
Hamilton Girls' High School (New Zealand)
4 Japanese teams
Team Kanagawa (Kanagawa)
Kobe Kohoku High School (Hyogo)
Iwami Chisuikan High School (Shimane)
Fukuoka Ladies Rugby Football Club (Fukuoka)
http://sanix-sports.info/rugby/english/diary.cgi?field=8
Day 1 Results Pool A
BSHS 0 Hong Kong Sports High 38
BSHS 0 Iwami Chisuikan High School 45
BSHS 10 Kobe Kohoku High School 5
BSHS qualify in 3rd place in Pool A, and will be in the play off for the minor medals on Day 2.
At the Sanix Tournament in Japan, they are up against:
4 Overseas teams
Brisbane State High School (Australia)
Robert Bateman Secondary School (Canada)
Hong Kong Sports School (Hong Kong)
Hamilton Girls' High School (New Zealand)
4 Japanese teams
Team Kanagawa (Kanagawa)
Kobe Kohoku High School (Hyogo)
Iwami Chisuikan High School (Shimane)
Fukuoka Ladies Rugby Football Club (Fukuoka)
http://sanix-sports.info/rugby/english/diary.cgi?field=8
Day 1 Results Pool A
BSHS 0 Hong Kong Sports High 38
BSHS 0 Iwami Chisuikan High School 45
BSHS 10 Kobe Kohoku High School 5
BSHS qualify in 3rd place in Pool A, and will be in the play off for the minor medals on Day 2.
Hugh Jarse
Rocky Elsom (76)
Day 1 Results:
Brisbane Boys College won their first Pool D game against Gose Industrial High School by 27 - 10 to get 5 match points (4 pts for win and 1 BP for 4 Tries).
4 tries, 2 Conversions, 1 PG to 1 Try, 1 Conversion, 1 PG.
Results: http://sanix-sports.info/rugby/2015/result/m4-29.pdf
Nagasaki Hokuyodai High School defeated Baek Shin High School by 17 - 12 in Day 1's other Pool D game.
Day 2 results:
BBC defeated Nagasaki Hokuyodai High School by 48 - 7
http://sanix-sports.info/rugby/2015/result/m4-30.pdf
8 Tries 4 Conversions to 1 Converted Try.
Gose Industrial High School defeated Baek Shin High School by 59 - 0 in Day 2's other Pool D game.
BBC currently on 10 points (max) and leading Pool D.
Final Pool game for BBC is 2 May at 12:15 (Japan time) against Baek Shin High School from Korea.
Brisbane Boys College won their first Pool D game against Gose Industrial High School by 27 - 10 to get 5 match points (4 pts for win and 1 BP for 4 Tries).
4 tries, 2 Conversions, 1 PG to 1 Try, 1 Conversion, 1 PG.
Results: http://sanix-sports.info/rugby/2015/result/m4-29.pdf
Nagasaki Hokuyodai High School defeated Baek Shin High School by 17 - 12 in Day 1's other Pool D game.
Day 2 results:
BBC defeated Nagasaki Hokuyodai High School by 48 - 7
http://sanix-sports.info/rugby/2015/result/m4-30.pdf
8 Tries 4 Conversions to 1 Converted Try.
Gose Industrial High School defeated Baek Shin High School by 59 - 0 in Day 2's other Pool D game.
BBC currently on 10 points (max) and leading Pool D.
Final Pool game for BBC is 2 May at 12:15 (Japan time) against Baek Shin High School from Korea.