RWC: AUS v ENG (Twickenham): POOL A; 6am (AEDT) Sunday 4 October
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Andrew Slack (58)
The problem is that you would think it would be a no brainer for the refs to pick up. But they either don't or choose to ignore it. I find it unlikely that Gatland wouldn't have pointed it out to the refs before they played England - yet I don't recall Marler getting pended for it once.
Let's hope Poite is paying attention.
Let's hope Poite is paying attention.
jollyswagman
Ron Walden (29)
If the English scrum is going forward then Marler gets away with it.....end of story. We need to make sure that we get dominance early and at least stay solid enough to absorb the initial shove. If we start going backwards we are screwed and it won't matter if Marler is pushing sideways, straight or otherwise.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
The problem as I see it is that the refs seem to have been brainwashed into thinking that whenever a scrum wheels, it's caused by either the defending tight head pulling back or the defending loose head walking around. It's where they focus their attention and the orcs seem to have worked this out and thus Marler plies his trade largely unwatched by the officials. The trick is to get the officials to watch and notice.
Poite was on the English loose head side for the Wales match and didn't seem to watch or notice. In any pre-match discussion, I'd be asking him and the ARs what are the restrictions on the loose head of the team feeding the ball and ask that they watch that area of play.
No such thing as a no-brainer with some refs. Sir Muggins yesterday and his erstwhile ARs (including Jaco) couldn't pick up the Uruguayan THP pulling backwards for several scrums (they eventually cottoned on) or one they won by hooking it back by hand! If they cannot even deal with what is happening, how will they get around their preconceptions?
One overhead view of Marler had him starting at 45 degrees at best with a massive space between him and his hooker with the ball in the 9s hands still. How does no-one notice that?? That's before Robshaw slides up to 3rd prop.
I'm very worried.
shanky
Darby Loudon (17)
Barbarian said:
I think we're waiting to see if Tom Wood is cited aren't we? Rather than injured.
If he's out, and Vunipola's out, then Burgess will likely have to go to 6 then
I don't know if they'll play Slade at 13. Bit of a waste putting him there. Better to leave Barritt at 13 and put Slade inside him?
Trouble is that Slade is a Rookie with a capital "R" and this is a big game.
They'll probably play it safe, they might go for Farrell/Ford at 10/12. They've used it before.
Farrell definitely won't be dropped IMO. With Poite blowing up every scrum, they'll want Farrell to knock them over all day.
Barritt is a 12 though. That was the biggest issue with their centre pairing against Wales.
Slade is a natural 13 I believe.
I'd be pretty happy if they selected Farrell and Ford at 10 and 12. I think we'd be all over that.
ChargerWA
Mark Loane (55)
Settle down mate, we're only playing England. It's not Japan or anything.
shanky
Darby Loudon (17)
Yes, Barritt is a 12 but he's not really a distributor, more of a runner.
If they pick him there (or Burgess for that matter), then it's a sign they're playing route 1 footy. That should please the Wallabies I reckon.
Slade is a ball player. He played 13 last time but it was out of position, I believe.
If they pick him there (or Burgess for that matter), then it's a sign they're playing route 1 footy. That should please the Wallabies I reckon.
Slade is a ball player. He played 13 last time but it was out of position, I believe.
PaarlBok
Rod McCall (65)
Japan? Dunno what you'r about. This is England vs Wallabies.
Dai bando
Charlie Fox (21)
Don't underestimate this England side, they will be hurting now and will be out to prove a point,
Marlar bores in at every scrum, but our TH is young and lacks the experience to sort it, a good TH will and then Marlar is negated to the second division,
Is your TH up to the job?
Marlar bores in at every scrum, but our TH is young and lacks the experience to sort it, a good TH will and then Marlar is negated to the second division,
Is your TH up to the job?
KOB1987
John Eales (66)
My thoughts are that Cheika's strategy isn't to send emails to Poite, it's to do what you suggest - negate him. No doubt they have been working on it, the fact that Holmes didn't get time last night is a pointer that he is going to be given said gig. And yes, he's up to it.
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
Yup & just to add to the fun Clancy is AR (with someone called Mitrea who I know nothing about) & Veldsman TMO. Good luck with that lot, you're gonna need it.
yourmatesam
Desmond Connor (43)
Fuck me, Poite and Clancy. Fair dinkum those two are ordinary.
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