RWC: AUS v ENG (Twickenham): POOL A; 6am (AEDT) Sunday 4 October

[ArmchairGeneral]

That was quite simply one for the best sporting experiences ever. I was there in 2003 and to be present at this was truly special. I struggled to find a Pom after the game, they all buggered off pretty damn quick!

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

The jokes have started:

What do you call a Pom in a RWC QF?
The Ref

What do you call a Pom holding the RWC trophy?
The guy presenting it, or
The guy engraving it

This time tomorrow there'll be a million of 'em

 

[Rugbynutter39]

Burgess seems to have followed the andy Farrell trail as he was a league player who played mainly prop in league who they then largely played at inside /outside centre for England with so so success.

Very hard for league player to make it as a union forward and to my mind only brad thorn has ever successfully done it.

Will Sam Burgess be a super star like Folau or SBW or so so player like Harris for Wales or Farrell for England. My bet would be more likely so so player but too early to say and would be unfair to burgess to make a call on that. My point is that even so so players with big profiles (can't say how big sam burgess is in England as don't live there now but can confirm Harris and Farrell did
When they made the switch) can offer attractive commercial non playing positives from interest these converts generate

 

[notapatrioticboneinme]

Very hard for league player to make it as a union forward and to my mind only brad thorn has ever successfully done it.

The elder among us would remember Dick Thornett, a forward, dual international for Australia in the 60's (from a great footballing family). Of course been a few backs who've done it.

 

[Chris McCracken]

Said like an Australian Rugbynutter. Most English don't care about league or know who Burgess is.

That is patently not true. One trip to Reddit or Planet Rugby will show you that Burgess causes more arguments among the English League and Union fans than I'd care to mention.

And any publicity is good publicity.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

The elder among us would remember Dick Thornett, a forward, dual international for Australia in the 60's (from a great footballing family). Of course been a few backs who've done it.

and both games have changed hugely in the meantime

 

[Bardon]

That's very true IS but Not... was responding to someone who used the word "ever" so any reference from the past is valid in that context.

 

[Chris McCracken]

I think you're misunderstanding what I said. I stated that his profile would of been different last year when he hadn't yet been in 'a team with a number of English players like George Ford, Brad Barritt, Jonathan Joseph, Anthony Watson etc.'.

Here's what you said

Said like an Australian Rugbynutter. Most English don't care about league or know who Burgess is.

 

[Shelts89]

Well fair play to you guys, were the better team on the night. Not entirely sure how Launchbury got MotM, clearly Foley or Pocock were the options for me.

I reckon Lancaster will walk now, he has too surely. Who might replace him though? If no big names can be attracted I'd try and get Baxter from Exeter. He's done wonders down there on almost no budget.

 

[Inside Shoulder]

That's very true IS but Not. was responding to someone who used the word "ever" so any reference from the past is valid in that context.

fair enough, there was ray price too

 

[Pedrolicus]

Well fair play to you guys, were the better team on the night. Not entirely sure how Launchbury got MotM, clearly Foley or Pocock were the options for me.

I reckon Lancaster will walk now, he has too surely. Who might replace him though? If no big names can be attracted I'd try and get Baxter from Exeter. He's done wonders down there on almost no budget.

Thumbs up for being so gracious. I think player talent wise England look good for the future. I think you need a management change but at least Lancaster's heart is in the right place.

 

[Shelts89]

Thumbs up for being so gracious. I think player talent wise England look good for the future. I think you need a management change but at least Lancaster's heart is in the right place.

Yeah the next generation of English rugby does look pretty good with the likes of Ford, Launchbury, Watson, Itoje, etc. Shame Lancaster panicked and included a lot of stodge around them to stifle them.

 

[blindsider]

Not sure if already posted. But worth posting!

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[Inside Shoulder]

Yeah the next generation of English rugby does look pretty good with the likes of Ford, Launchbury, Watson, Itoje, etc. Shame Lancaster panicked and included a lot of stodge around them to stifle them.

they have a huge problem in their midfield - I dont think Ford makes much difference to that and, obviously, I dont know who is thought to be coming through the under 20s etc.
Except for the 14 last night, the ozzies were more than happy to just slide across and let the poms come to them knowing that their angles were such that they'd run out of space before we ran out of defenders. I see that as a perennial issue for England.
Mind you, Gitts is the best "passive" defender I have ever seen - and that's not to say his active defence is not fantastic too.

 

[the plastic paddy]

That was quite simply one for the best sporting experiences ever. I was there in 2003 and to be present at this was truly special. I struggled to find a Pom after the game, they all buggered off pretty damn quick!

Disgracefully some of them buggered off before the end without the good grace to applaud the teams.

 

[The Red Baron]

Burgess seems to have followed the andy Farrell trail as he was a league player who played mainly prop in league who they then largely played at inside /outside centre for England with so so success.

Very hard for league player to make it as a union forward and to my mind only brad thorn has ever successfully done it.

I'm pretty sure Andy Farrell played most of his league career as a lock. He was quite a fine ball player.

 

[Shelts89]

they have a huge problem in their midfield - I dont think Ford makes much difference to that and, obviously, I dont know who is thought to be coming through the under 20s etc.
Except for the 14 last night, the ozzies were more than happy to just slide across and let the poms come to them knowing that their angles were such that they'd run out of space before we ran out of defenders. I see that as a perennial issue for England.
Mind you, Gitts is the best "passive" defender I have ever seen - and that's not to say his active defence is not fantastic too.

What is he supposed to do with Farrell and Barritt as his centres? Watch him for Bath with Eastmond, Joseph, Watson, Agulla and Watson running lines off him all day. He can find holes in defences.

 

[boyo]

I also haven't got any great hate for English rugby that HJ etc seem to have, not sure I have seen any more cynical play out of them than any other team. In saying that I can understand you are having fun piling shit on them, hell isn't that the fun of winning??

I doubt that anyone on GAGR hates English rugby, but have a strong dislike for them.

 

[boyo]

I hope that Burgess is cited.

 

[TahDan]

I hope that Burgess is cited.

It'd be devastating for their chances against Uruguay


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