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RWC 2019 SF1: New Zealand v England

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David Wilson (68)
I have been labouring under the impression that the haka was not just a challenge. I have seen it performed at a wedding. And it is performed on all sorts of occasions, apparently as a gesture of respect. Or mourning. Or just about anything, from what my Anglo-Saxon brain can understand.



So I repeat my view. It seems to me that it could just as easily, and appropriately, be performed at the end of the game. In fact, that might be more appropriate in terms of ours being a sport, and not actual warfare.

Wam, I think your interpretation is right, just not here at the rugby where AFAIK it is a challenge.
 

Dan54

David Wilson (68)
I have been labouring under the impression that the haka was not just a challenge. I have seen it performed at a wedding. And it is performed on all sorts of occasions, apparently as a gesture of respect. Or mourning. Or just about anything, from what my Anglo-Saxon brain can understand.



So I repeat my view. It seems to me that it could just as easily, and appropriately, be performed at the end of the game. In fact, that might be more appropriate in terms of ours being a sport, and not actual warfare.

Yep you right mate, it just not a challenge (actually multi functional, just like a swiss army knife;)) , but can be almost anything, but also is used as a challenge as in this case. But there no reason it can't be done after game, but I not sure Tonga, Samoa, or Fijian's would be as I tend to think they are more war challenges. Same as national anthems no reason they are played before game, think much is just tradition, so who needs tradition anyway!
 

Ulrich

Nev Cottrell (35)
Yep you right mate, it just not a challenge (actually multi functional, just like a swiss army knife;)) , but can be almost anything, but also is used as a challenge as in this case. But there no reason it can't be done after game, but I not sure Tonga, Samoa, or Fijian's would be as I tend to think they are more war challenges. Same as national anthems no reason they are played before game, think much is just tradition, so who needs tradition anyway!
I'd actually like for South Africa's "Haka" to return.

Last performed in 1937.

Tradition is a good thing.
 

Dismal Pillock

Michael Lynagh (62)
Funny how little backlash there's been over A DISGRACEFUL GUTLESS WORLD CUP EXIT.

"Oh, but that's a good thing, it means we're growwwwwing as a natio GET FUCKED. It just means people remain unaccountable which opens the door FOR IT TO HAPPEN AGAIN. AND IT MUST NEVER, EVER, EVER HAPPEN AGAIN.

History will judge the 2019 Cantabs poorly. Complacent from winning soup rugby every year, they took all the 50/50 position calls by default. Hansen, halfway out the door, just thought fuckit, we can always trust the Cantabs, most of these guys literally never lose rugby matches, they'll see us right.

BUT too often having someone there to bail each other out just diminished individual responsibility at the next level up and that carried through to a rudderless "well, someone else will fix it" semi-final exit disaster.

1. Joe Moody: shat the bed and vanished. Lost up front.
Verdict: GUILTY

2. Codie Taylor: total shartmaster effort. #Dane_Coles_ffs.
Verdict: GUILTY
5. Samuel Whitelock: Brainlock more like. Overwhelmed.
Verdict: GUILTY
6. Scott Barrett: Picked instead of Sam Cane and that'll be on the summarising epitaph of NZ RWC 2019 exit.
Verdict: GUILTY
8. Kieran Read: tried to hang on thru an erractic final season but didnt really. Hansen to blame for hating Akira so much and refusing to take up the challenge and actually try and coach him into being a better player.
Verdict: GUILTY
10. Richie Mo’unga: didnt know what to do when his Cantab "Rolls Royce pack" went backwards.
Verdict: GUILTY
11. George Bridge. him and Reece biffed in as default Cantab options after half-out-the-door Hansen gave up on Rieko almost as fast as he gave up on his brother.
Verdict: 76% GUILTY
13. Jack Goodhue. too raw.
Verdict: 76% GUILTY
14. Sevu Reece.
Verdict: 76% GUILTY
 

PaarlBok

Rod McCall (65)
Funny how little backlash there's been over A DISGRACEFUL GUTLESS WORLD CUP EXIT.

"Oh, but that's a good thing, it means we're growwwwwing as a natio GET FUCKED. It just means people remain unaccountable which opens the door FOR IT TO HAPPEN AGAIN. AND IT MUST NEVER, EVER, EVER HAPPEN AGAIN.
Bro you should take it easy. You cant win them all. Played your final in round 1.
 

Dismal Pillock

Michael Lynagh (62)
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby...hless-all-blacks-review-after-loss-to-england

lol@"ruthless."

Was expecting article to have some actual ruthless causticity about it. Instead it's some players with a half-piked "no, no, it was my fault." "Oh no, some of it was my fault" *sigh*.

GTFO.

That's not ruthless. That's just some pampered sooks covering their arses.

Ruthless would be the tight 5 standing up there buck-naked and smeared in the shit of the young and saying to the entire 78-strong assembled party that "we, to a man, played like fat spoiled babies who couldnt shift a dumpling off a pudding. We are pathetic babies and WE MUST NEVER, EVER, EVER BE LET TO FORGET THE FATEFUL DAY OUR COMPLACENCY AND HUBRIS DISGRACED OUR NAMES, OUR FAMILIES NAMES, THE NAME OF THE NATION AND THE ENTIRETY OF NEW ZEALAND RUGBY FOOTBALL HISTORY AS A WHOLE."
 

Dismal Pillock

Michael Lynagh (62)
just had my first thought for the week here on a Wednesday; prior to RWC2019#DEBACLE Hansen would have read alllll about how AB's are sleepwalking into a 1991 style ambush due to him mafia don-style sticking with his old experienced capos for too long so he thought fine then, fuck yuz, not gonna go down in history with that legacy, you want the young pricks in, fine, here ya fucken go, cant pin that shit on me now, go for yer fucken life.
 
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