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Geoff Shaw (53)
I thought douglas already qualified from 2014-17 when he was based here? He did 3 years before leaving for a stint elsewhere, did not think you had to do the time frame again if you did not get capped first time round.
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I thought douglas already qualified from 2014-17 when he was based here? He did 3 years before leaving for a stint elsewhere, did not think you had to do the time frame again if you did not get capped first time round.
That wasn't how it operated previously. You had to have commenced the qualification period prior to 31 December 2017 so you could be qualified before it changed at 31 December 2020. Anyone not qualifying by then would then no qualify until at least 1 January 2023 as they would be subject to 5 years.
Pushing it back a year should mean that anyone who commenced residency on or before 31 December 2018 can now qualify by 31 December 2021.
It resets and you lose it though because otherwise you could become qualified for more and more teams.
Those three years would just count towards the 10 year cumulative residency now.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
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Michael Lynagh (62)
Interesting. I know the Division De Honor is definitely semi-pro to low level professional with most clubs operating player budgets of roughly $500k (Euros) with the largest being a little under the $1m mark. The Russian Premier League is professional. As is the SupaLiga (Romania). The Didi 10 is definitely semi-professional. I suspect the rest are fairly mixed between amateur and semi-professional. The Bundesliga most certainly is.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
I'll have to ask but I think it's a match payment set up in the Netherlands. I know that both the Dutch and Belgian Unions have set up the BeNe Cup with the goal of developing that into a professional competition.
The Dutch could actually be the sneaky sleepers in Europe. Several years back they had to dig themselves out of a serious financial hole but since then have established regional academies and development programs and are beginning to see more young players make their way into in particular French programs and even as far as NZ.
I actually had no idea about the Hungarian League either.
Rebels3
Jim Lenehan (48)
There is a good world rugby article on them out a few days ago
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
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Jim Lenehan (48)
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
That's going to be a tough ask as they'll face Romania for that spot if things remain as they currently sit. A team who'll be very keen not to be relegated.
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Phil Kearns (64)
No Kanaloa Hawaii in MLR next year:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...p/04/hawaii-rugby-kanaloa-all-blacks-mlr-2021
Looks like there was a bit of a falling out over the bid process:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...p/04/hawaii-rugby-kanaloa-all-blacks-mlr-2021
Looks like there was a bit of a falling out over the bid process:
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
I had reservations about their ability to meet the financial requirements of entry. This confirms them. It's why I was also very skeptical of this group being an option for NZs SRA going forward.
They appear not to have been able to even meet the requirements for an extension.
Rebels3
Jim Lenehan (48)
Would love to know where the money is coming from because a bunch of ex-ABs isn’t it (unless they are dealing drugs on the side). They are most likely figureheads with someone else putting money in. As it stands they are all show and no substance.
Happy to be corrected as it sounds like a cool idea.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
I actually think it could just be them. Working under the assumption that their names alone would be enough to open the door. Which would explain how they've fallen through on much of their talk and to be honest bullshit. The supposed deals that never were etc.
I've mentioned before that the rough figure needed in order to gain entry was said to be a minimum of $10m USD in order to cover licence fees, basic operational costs and so on over a 3 year period. And that's the bare bones minimum. And that's not taking into account the added logistics and expenses of operating out of Hawai'i itself. They clearly don't have it. And I doubt they ever will.
The funny thing about the Kanaloa statement is that literally just this week they were spruiking an exciting announcement regarding their MLR future. Which suggests they still thought that who they were and not their ability to meet even the minimum criteria for an extension (I'm not too sure what those are but they do apparently exist) would get them through.
Edit: And they've now apparently edited their statement and walked back some of the initial indignation. This group is cooked.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
And someone has just mentioned that the $10m USD is now closer to $25m USD with the $10m being just the new licencing fee. No way these guys had close to $38m NZD to meet the league requirements if that's the case.
brokendown
Bill McLean (32)
maybe he knew a head shot would just ricochet?
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
MLR have confirmed the dates for their 2021 season. Kicking off in March. Through to August. Two conferences. 18 rounds. There's also rumours of a Chicago team being greenlit for 2022 in the near future.
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
Looks like the long-overdue cleanout at Tongan Rugby Union may be imminent:
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/spo...ivion-if-fails-sign-new-governing-arrangement
If WR (World Rugby) are serious Samoa will be next (arguably should've been first but that's a close call).
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/spo...ivion-if-fails-sign-new-governing-arrangement
If WR (World Rugby) are serious Samoa will be next (arguably should've been first but that's a close call).