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Michael Lynagh (62)
Apparently the FER cleared the players with WR (World Rugby) before they capped them a few years back. So, they might be okay. No idea about the Tongan bloke who played for Romania.
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Apparently the FER cleared the players with WR (World Rugby) before they capped them a few years back. So, they might be okay. No idea about the Tongan bloke who played for Romania.
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
^^^^^^ I read somewhere that the Tongan/ Romanian guy played a World Series 7's tournament in which case he's probably screwed as I don't think there was ever the same grey area around 7's as there was around U20's: playing for your National 7's always disqualified you for other countries, playing U20's (as the French/ Spanish guys did) only disqualified you if both countries had U20's as their second team AND all the players concerned were informed accordingly. That was the outcome of the Shingler qualification row between (from memory) Scotland & Wales a few years back, anyway.
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Jason Little (69)
Was there a time WOB where 7s representation for one country didn't interfere with eligibility for another? I am aware that Jordan Smiler represented Australia at 7s after he had previously represented NZ. Maybe the Tongan player is of similar vintage?
Smiler was in the NZ 7s squad but never played a tournament so didn't become tied to NZ.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
You knew that he's definitely the same bloke (there was an argument that it may have been a case of mistaken identity) when Romanians started arguing that the Tongan team was an invitational team and not representative of Tonga. Which we all know isn't the case.
The Spanish players are interesting. My understanding that one is fine. But the other one is a little less clear. Though as I said above. The FER apparently are confident of his eligibility and apparently cleared him with WR (World Rugby) before he won is first cap. So, we'll see.
Omar Comin'
Chilla Wilson (44)
What I'd like to know is what would happen if it turned out a player had previously been cleared by WR (World Rugby) in the past, but incorrectly.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
That is a very interesting and possibly pertinent question in relation to this situation regarding Spain.
WR (World Rugby)'s earlier decision would have to stand, if not I'd imagine the Spaniards could/would reach for the lawyers. IF the earlier decision was found to've been in error WR (World Rugby) should clearly point out why and announce what would stand in future.
God spare us if this gets tangled up in the courts in some place or other.
God spare us if this gets tangled up in the courts in some place or other.
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
Yes but unless the bloke's ~40 it's unlikely to be relevant in this case
.The WR (World Rugby) clearance, even if subsequently found to be in error, would surely have to stand unless you could somehow prove that the union that was granted the clearance knew that the decision was wrong. At which point I think the whole clearance process falls apart.
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Michael Lynagh (62)
http://www.scmp.com/sport/rugby/hk-...old-world-rugby-suspends-china-programme-over
Disappointing to see the mooted $100m investment from Allisports may go no-where as changes to Chinese sporting governance structures put this at risk....
Disappointing to see the mooted $100m investment from Allisports may go no-where as changes to Chinese sporting governance structures put this at risk....
Omar Comin'
Chilla Wilson (44)
Well hopefully Gosper is right and it's just delayed.
It's pretty positive that China just qualified as a core team for next year's women's world sevens series. And they did it pretty comfortably, beating South Africa 31-14 in the final. Women's sevens is probably the lowest hanging fruit in rugby so it makes sense to prioritise it initially.
If the Chinese women can make it to the Olympics that'll be a boost for the sport. And obviously it'd be huge if they were actually in medal contention. Hundreds of millions of people watch the Olympics in China.
It's pretty positive that China just qualified as a core team for next year's women's world sevens series. And they did it pretty comfortably, beating South Africa 31-14 in the final. Women's sevens is probably the lowest hanging fruit in rugby so it makes sense to prioritise it initially.
If the Chinese women can make it to the Olympics that'll be a boost for the sport. And obviously it'd be huge if they were actually in medal contention. Hundreds of millions of people watch the Olympics in China.
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Mark Ella (57)
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
Rugbynutter39
Michael Lynagh (62)
Yes agreed about Chinese woman 7’s qualifying for next years series - watched their Matches and quite impressive. China apparently has around 30 clubs at present but alliaports investment was to see it played across the 10,000 Chinese universities.
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waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
Update on Sione Vaiomounga, the Tongan player suffering from kidney failure while playing in Romania. There's no dialysis available in Tonga, he wasn't eligible to come to NZ for it & couldn't afford to pay for it in Romania or elsewhere in Europe. Thankfully Pacific Rugby Welfare have raised a crowd-funded £30K & he's now had an emergency transplant.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11986670
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11986670
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
There's been some fallout from the ref-shoving after that Spain v Romania RWC qualifier:
"Lengthy [up to 43 weeks] bans have been issued to five Spain players involved in the ugly scenes that marred the aftermath of last month's 18-10 defeat by Belgium in Brussels."
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12034631
Yet to see the outcome of the review of the match, eligibility issues, etc.
"Lengthy [up to 43 weeks] bans have been issued to five Spain players involved in the ugly scenes that marred the aftermath of last month's 18-10 defeat by Belgium in Brussels."
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12034631
Yet to see the outcome of the review of the match, eligibility issues, etc.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
The match review and eligibility issues are in WR (World Rugby) hands now. These bans have been handed down by RE.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
The Seattle vs San Diego game has officially been announced as sold out with overflow now being directed to the second game which isn't far off the same status. Utah are expecting the same come gameday. They tend to have a large number of walk ups but going from pre-sales they should go close.
Glendale should turn out a good crowd as should Houston. Hopefully sell outs as well.
Glendale should turn out a good crowd as should Houston. Hopefully sell outs as well.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
I should also note that the Utah game isn't actually an MLR event. The Warriors have the bye in the first week. This game will be against the well they are calling them the Alberta WolfPack (Praries Wolfpack) from Canada. A mix of players from Alberta, Saskatchewan and to a lesser extent Manitoba traditionally.
WorkingClassRugger
Michael Lynagh (62)
They should count themselves lucky with those bans. Could have (and some may argue should have) been life bans.