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Round 7: Reds v Brumbies - Friday April 7 @ Suncorp 7:35pm

Wallaby Man

Nev Cottrell (35)
What’s happened to the Reds, the first half of Thorns rein their pack was nasty and brutal. They were a cold hearted pack but had very little in the backline, now they have the backline but that pack would be close to the least bruising pack in the comp. There is nobody that’s capable of sitting opposing players on the ground and very few that can put a hit on. Ryan Smith is nasty but he’s about the only one you’d pick in a bar fight to back you up.

Thorn was all about forward play in first few seasons now it’s almost like a different coach in charge.
 

The Ghost of Raelene

Simon Poidevin (60)
The last 30 minutes looked a team without a plan or any intelligence. Brumbies put them to the sword. That score could of been a lot worse without some good individual performances like a 55m solo try by Tate.
 

Members Section

John Thornett (49)
What’s happened to the Reds, the first half of Thorns rein their pack was nasty and brutal. They were a cold hearted pack but had very little in the backline, now they have the backline but that pack would be close to the least bruising pack in the comp. There is nobody that’s capable of sitting opposing players on the ground and very few that can put a hit on. Ryan Smith is nasty but he’s about the only one you’d pick in a bar fight to back you up.

Thorn was all about forward play in first few seasons now it’s almost like a different coach in charge.

Across the board our depth in the front row in aus is prob not great, we have some awesome top tier but you can see once you go past that we are struggling. All sides need to try to get 9 front rowers Super Rugby competitive not just 3 good ones & hopefully someone handy to come off the bench
 

Doritos Day

Johnnie Wallace (23)
What’s happened to the Reds, the first half of Thorns rein their pack was nasty and brutal. They were a cold hearted pack but had very little in the backline, now they have the backline but that pack would be close to the least bruising pack in the comp. There is nobody that’s capable of sitting opposing players on the ground and very few that can put a hit on. Ryan Smith is nasty but he’s about the only one you’d pick in a bar fight to back you up.

Thorn was all about forward play in first few seasons now it’s almost like a different coach in charge.
They have no list management vision. Bled solid/good players for a few years now and clearly the QPR isn't getting it done with regards to front row development.

Tupou playing 80 mins a week papered over a lot of cracks.
 

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John Thornett (49)
They have no list management vision. Bled solid/good players for a few years now and clearly the QPR isn't getting it done with regards to front row development.

Tupou playing 80 mins a week papered over a lot of cracks.

I just don't get how RVN got completely overlooked by the reds then moved on by the rebels, Players like him we need!
 

molman

Jim Lenehan (48)
What’s happened to the Reds, the first half of Thorns rein their pack was nasty and brutal. They were a cold hearted pack but had very little in the backline, now they have the backline but that pack would be close to the least bruising pack in the comp. There is nobody that’s capable of sitting opposing players on the ground and very few that can put a hit on. Ryan Smith is nasty but he’s about the only one you’d pick in a bar fight to back you up.

Thorn was all about forward play in first few seasons now it’s almost like a different coach in charge.
Thorn seemed really focused on a culture of work-rate, effort, accountability in those first couple of years. You could chalk up some of those poor first seasons to a real lack of experience and youth, but the team looked on a path to be evolving into something notable from their predominately NRC origins.

This current team however, I'm struggling to work out their identity. I can't tell if it's poor recruitment and a failure to replace players like BPA, Mafi, Tupou (through injury this year), Rodda, LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto), Hockings, Stewart etc..etc.. or poor coaching, with the systems just not working and issues like discipline being so high (in part I suspect because they're pushing things rather than trusting their processes).

For the sake of the Wallabies and Australian Rugby, I want the Red's to be better than this. Hopefully they can turn it around.
 
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griffins

Ted Thorn (20)
Tua pretty impressive for Brums, astute pickup by the looks. Good result after giving the reds a sniff around half time.

Qld were poor though. Attack, outside of individuals, was dreadful.
 

Wallaby Man

Nev Cottrell (35)
Across the board our depth in the front row in aus is prob not great, we have some awesome top tier but you can see once you go past that we are struggling. All sides need to try to get 9 front rowers Super Rugby competitive not just 3 good ones & hopefully someone handy to come off the bench
But you can still be an ordinary scrummager but a nasty piece of work on the field that the opposition is going to know this is going to be super physical. Thats what they kinda were 5yrs ago. It feels the pack is all application but 0 presence.
 

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John Thornett (49)
But you can still be an ordinary scrummager but a nasty piece of work on the field that the opposition is going to know this is going to be super physical. That what they kinda were 5yrs ago. It feels the pack is all application but 0 presence.

I 100% agree, we seem to be very obsessed with pathways rather players naturally getting better with age in club footy like RVN & Schoup
 

molman

Jim Lenehan (48)
While I dont agree with this, if I was Heenan I would be dotting my I's & crossing my T's of my resume
Be curious what impact Heenan might/could have considering he is already part of the coaching group atm (so should already be influencing this team). I mean Foote seems to be doing a reasonable job at the Rebels this season after shifting from under Wessels, so maybe Heenan would bring something more in the drivers seat.
 

Wallaby Man

Nev Cottrell (35)
I 100% agree, we seem to be very obsessed with pathways rather players naturally getting better with age in club footy like RVN & Schoup
That reds pack has plenty of club guys tho. Maybe I’m wrong and hope someone corrects me but Blyth and Nongoor from memory are the only ones in the front 5 that have been around since they essentially left school. I just think it’s character, they obviously aren’t at int level talent but surely there is guys playing QPR that are just all about the physicality and the opposition is going in with one eye open that they are going to get smacked around.
 

TSR

Andrew Slack (58)
Wilson doesn’t penetrate the line. Collapses too easily into tackles. Weak glutes?
Really. I thought him constantly making post contact metres was probably one of few bright spots tonight.

Pretty sure the commentators stated two weeks ago he led the comp for past contact metres - although I have no idea where that stat comes from.

I didn’t think tonight was Wilson’s best night out - a couple of costly dropped balls and a few other errors. But I thought his work in contact has been good all year. feel like Rennie’s comments in him from two years ago still influence how people watch him.
 
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