Rnd 18: Brumbies v Reds

[griffins]

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One thing that really irked me about the Tupou incident was Lilo taking a dive.


I did not think it was worth a YC. It was more of a collision than anything else. Does this mean that a defender really has to execute a copybook schoolboy tackle around the ankles every time? Bugger me.


And of course Lilo made a miraculous recovery. Pathetic.

No chance he could have just been winded I guess?

 

[Gnostic]

One thing that really irked me about the Tupou incident was Lilo taking a dive.





I did not think it was worth a YC. It was more of a collision than anything else. Does this mean that a defender really has to execute a copybook schoolboy tackle around the ankles every time? Bugger me.





And of course Lilo made a miraculous recovery. Pathetic.

This is a pathetic post.

The impact and the transmitted force is plain to see. Looking at how Lilo was holding his shoulder I thought he'd dislocated it or else had the mother of stingers, which given his continuation seems apparent. To say he was taking a dive is ludicrous and makes me wonder if you ever played despite all you anecdotes here of the years.

As I've said the decision making process was flawed, very badly - but to make this assertion is absurd.

 

[TSR]

Yeah - I don’t get that one. He was smashed and it was clear his shoulder was still troubling him in the second half. I’ve got no doubt guys do take a dive to get things reviewed. It never occurred to me this might be one of those times. If anything, the fact he got up at all shows how tough modern footballers are.

 

[Strewthcobber]

Any news on LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto)? Looked a bad one

 

[Gnostic]

The ref and the TMO thought he did. They are all who matter, when they make the decision. They just went with "close to the head" and "with a lot of force", which sounds kind of like a struggle to justify the decision. If this is the benchmark leading into the RWC, it's gonna be a shit-fest of games of 13 on 14 players if they apply it the same way.

Attached will be the "Decision Making Framework" used at the RWC as it currently being used at the U20s WC. Also attached is World Rugby's YouTube Video of the Framework in action with some examples. Also have a look at the U20s games to see it in effect.

If the match officials had used this they would have come to the conclusion that no penalty was to be awarded if it was "near the head but not actually contacting" or if contact was made to the head with the force applied it would have been a straight red no ifs or buts.

Edit :- I should also say that the only reason that we are not seeing this now in Super Rugby and nor will we see it in the RC is because of the usual SANZAAR dispensation because our season is halfway through. Our (SANZAAR) players will need to be heavily coached in this before the RWC. This is a World Rugby directive so it WILL be in force next year.

 

[Up the Guts]

I did enjoy Tupou chuckling to himself as he ran off and trying to go sit with his teammates before being directed to the naughty chair. He's great for team culture.

 

[liquor box]

One thing that really irked me about the Tupou incident was Lilo taking a dive.


I did not think it was worth a YC. It was more of a collision than anything else. Does this mean that a defender really has to execute a copybook schoolboy tackle around the ankles every time? Bugger me.


And of course Lilo made a miraculous recovery. Pathetic.

I think they want it a bit lower, there was a trial at U20's of a "nipple height" rule where the aim was meant to be a few inches lower to avoid accidental collisions with the head.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/...t/news-story/2ef82770c88ba66fe7c1159fc581c36d

Currently the acceptable height of a tackle according to Law 9.13 is the line of the shoulders, but this will lowered to “below the nipple line,” the governing body said.
“This trial is designed to remove the tackler’s head from a high-risk situation through a deterrent based on a combination of law amendment, sanction and technique change,” said World Rugby’s chief medical officer Dr Martin Raftery.

it seems it is to protect the tackler

 

[Show-n-go]

Surely that makes the tackle even more subjective

Pretty defined where the shoulders finish and the neck starts, not so much where “nipple height” is, especially in real-time during a fast paced game

 

[The_Brown_Hornet]

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByupnAvAwZz/?igshid=19cui5601iiq5

I thought it was a good hit - Thor is getting known for shoulder charges though so his reputation precedes him.

Funny thing is that the bulk of the IG comments are calling for a Red??

Nah that's high and a shoulder charge for me, looking at the above. I know there was an arm involved, but he didn't wrap at any stage for mine.

 

[Scoey]

Has anyone been cited for the tip tackle on Higgers? Arm between the legs, lifted past horizontal and driven head first into the ground is a red card. I was astounded it was missed on the night, I think only saved by McGahan's equally astounding drop goal sailing over.

 

[Shaker]

Has anyone been cited for the tip tackle on Higgers? Arm between the legs, lifted past horizontal and driven head first into the ground is a red card. I was astounded it was missed on the night, I think only saved by McGahan's equally astounding drop goal sailing over.

 

[RoffsChoice]

A judiciary would likely rule that penalty only because Higgers uses the high knees technique to try and get through the tackle. I don't like that defence, but they're trying to make a line between players getting into trouble by jumping out of a tackle and players being tipped, and they've drawn it there.

 

[Adam84]

I don't think Higgers jumped into that tackle at all, that was poor tackling technique plain and simple