Refereeing decisions

[Tomthumb]

I’m getting g sick of hearing “you see that 50 times every game” regarding the clean out, because it’s just not true. I’d love someone to show me all the shoulder to head clean outs that are being missed

 

[Dctarget]

oh well, they've painted themselves into a precarious corner now.

 

[JRugby2]

I’m getting sick of hearing “you see that 50 times every game” regarding the clean out, because it’s just not true. I’d love someone to show me all the shoulder to head clean outs that are being missed

I think they are referring to everything up until the contact - which I'd agree is true, we do see players charge in at speed and blow people off the ball in very similar ways to what Jac did at a lot of breakdowns. We just rarely see the contact point being the head or neck.

But yeah - if you do this, you decrease the amount of control you have and increase the risk to the whoever you hit/ increase the risk of committing foul play.

 

[Major Tom]

All comes back to the reffs needing to officiate the ruck better IMO.
Penalise players going off their feet more often and they will their change behaviour.
Equally, be more stringent on the jackal with hands past the ball. This should theoretically clean up breakdown.

Also where is it written in law 9.20 that refs will determine if head/neck contact is due to a ‘rugby incident’?

I know we’re going around in circles but WR (World Rugby) haven’t made this clear to the general public why it wasn’t a penalty so I feel the debate will rage on.

WR (World Rugby) will need to do something because you cannot have someone getting hit in the head/neck from a clean out and claim they performed the perfect clean out. It just doesn’t pass the pub test.

 

[John S]

5-10m is a stretch (I think) is there a clip where it's been that bad?

The Roar pod was talking about this - their guest Charlie Morgan said Lynagh was 1 - 2 m in front, but Russell getting close to 6m in front which was really having a laugh. Really testing the ref - asking permission not permission type stuff.

Good question - what's the penalty? Do they give a short arm to the other team? re-take the kick?

 

[JRugby2]

The Roar pod was talking about this - their guest Charlie Morgan said Lynagh was 1 - 2 m in front, but Russell getting close to 6m in front which was really having a laugh. Really testing the ref - asking permission not permission type stuff.

Good question - what's the penalty? Do they give a short arm to the other team? re-take the kick?

20.2 - A penalty or free-kick is taken from where it is awarded or anywhere behind it on a line through the mark and parallel to the touchlines. When a penalty or free-kick is taken at the wrong place, it must be re-taken.

 

[Major Tom]

The worst is how strict they are re. the mark with quick taps but just give no shits for penalty kicks.

 

[Brumby Runner]

Conversions are also a bit of an issue, though perhaps not quite so bad.

One of the Lions' tries was scored a metyre or two in from touch, left hand side of the field. Russell set the ball for the conversion in line with where the try was scored but the ref brought him amnother 2 - 3 metres in field. I said to my son at the time that I hoped he would miss by that margin, and to be sure his kick duly sailed a couple of metres outside the right hand upright.

OTOH I've often noticed refs moving Wallaby kickers closer to the sideline than where the try was scored. Am I paranoid. Keep an eye on it and let me know.

 

[molman]

I'd just rather argue the miniature of a stupid children's sport that adults get paid to play for some reason, than do any work

I just had to share my odd mental image....

 

[molman]

20.2 - A penalty or free-kick is taken from where it is awarded or anywhere behind it on a line through the mark and parallel to the touchlines. When a penalty or free-kick is taken at the wrong place, it must be re-taken.

I'm waiting for Rassie to use this as a future time wasting tactic hey Ref, it's infinite re-taken free kicks if we take it in the wrong place right?...

 

[Major Tom]

I'm waiting for Rassie to use this as a future time wasting tactic hey Ref, it's infinite re-taken free kicks if we take it in the wrong place right?...

I reckon Rassie will have blokes jumping for the tryline at penalty taps.

 

[JRugby2]

I'm waiting for Rassie to use this as a future time wasting tactic hey Ref, it's infinite re-taken free kicks if we take it in the wrong place right?...

please don't my mental health can't take it.

 

[Strewthcobber]

As usual with Rassie's shenanigans, just need a ref with big enough balls to use the laws to stop him from taking the piss

 

[Pfitzy]

As usual with Rassie's shenanigans, just need a ref with big enough balls to use the laws to stop him from taking the piss

And then more videos from Rassie about the Boks being victims