Jimmy_Crouch
Ken Catchpole (46)
But it wont because play will be back on. The game wont be paused for the same period while they deliberate.
Refereeing decisions
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But it wont because play will be back on. The game wont be paused for the same period while they deliberate.
Dismal Pillock
Michael Lynagh (62)
Must be some way they can utilise the dickhead subs warming up in the goddamn in-goal area for the entire bloody match. They are the rugby equivalent of walking around the office holding a piece of paper so it looks like you're busy and shouldnt be fired come the next round of "restructuring".
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
Except that now everyone stands around with their hands on their hips while the referee, TMO and ARs all look at endless replays on the big screen.
formerflanker
Ken Catchpole (46)
Agreed.
I have long thought that the goal-line warm ups will see a massive intervention by those reserves that ruins a game.
It may be a premature celebratory hug before the ball is touched down for a try, or a reactive interference against an opponent, or just accidentally getting in the way of play.
Hi viz vests won't prevent human nature from stuffing up a good game.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
A few posters talking up the ref in the Rebels/Brumbies game.
Without suggesting the result could have/should have been different, there were some decisions I think were quite poor. Maybe others have a view?
In the first minute or two of the game, Deegan failed to catch a poor pass from the ruck by Lomani and had to chase the ball back to the tryline. Powell effected a tackle on Deegan about a metre or so out from the line and was penalised for going off his feet. It looked to me that Powell retained his feet at all times and that the penalty should have gone the Brumbies way for failing to release the ball. Anyone see this incident the same/differently? Any video footage to clarify?
Later in the first half, I think with the score at 17 - 7, To'omua (was it?) fielded the ball in his own in-goal area and under pressure put in a poor high kick that failed to even reach the 22m line, where possession was regained by the Rebels after a Brumbies spill. The whole of the Rebels side was in front of the kicker and few if any retreated 10m from where the ball was about to land, resulting in them regaining possession. Should have been a clear penalty in front of the sticks for the Brumbies.
Towards the end of the game, the Brumbies were awarded a couple of penalties inside the Rebels' 22m area. They elected to take a quick tap and play on. On both occasions the ball carrier was tackled by Rebels players who had not retreated 10m from the point of the penalty. No sanction.
The last situation did lead up to the Brumbies second try so didn't have a bearing of note on the game. However, the first two were early in the game and could reasonably have led to the Brumbies scoring in the first couple of minutes. No way, on the overall performances on the night would they have won the game, but it could have had a really different complexion.
I simply offer these examples of poor decisions by the ref to refute the claims that he had a good game.
Without suggesting the result could have/should have been different, there were some decisions I think were quite poor. Maybe others have a view?
In the first minute or two of the game, Deegan failed to catch a poor pass from the ruck by Lomani and had to chase the ball back to the tryline. Powell effected a tackle on Deegan about a metre or so out from the line and was penalised for going off his feet. It looked to me that Powell retained his feet at all times and that the penalty should have gone the Brumbies way for failing to release the ball. Anyone see this incident the same/differently? Any video footage to clarify?
Later in the first half, I think with the score at 17 - 7, To'omua (was it?) fielded the ball in his own in-goal area and under pressure put in a poor high kick that failed to even reach the 22m line, where possession was regained by the Rebels after a Brumbies spill. The whole of the Rebels side was in front of the kicker and few if any retreated 10m from where the ball was about to land, resulting in them regaining possession. Should have been a clear penalty in front of the sticks for the Brumbies.
Towards the end of the game, the Brumbies were awarded a couple of penalties inside the Rebels' 22m area. They elected to take a quick tap and play on. On both occasions the ball carrier was tackled by Rebels players who had not retreated 10m from the point of the penalty. No sanction.
The last situation did lead up to the Brumbies second try so didn't have a bearing of note on the game. However, the first two were early in the game and could reasonably have led to the Brumbies scoring in the first couple of minutes. No way, on the overall performances on the night would they have won the game, but it could have had a really different complexion.
I simply offer these examples of poor decisions by the ref to refute the claims that he had a good game.
Dan54
David Wilson (68)
I did think Powell seemed unlucky, not arguing with ref as I couldn't see it all that clearly, but I feel a lot of players are a bit unlucky when chasing through kicks like that, they can lose their balance fairly easy as they stop and get penalised for a quite accidental going off feet.
Powell was penalised for tackling a player on the ground.
To'omua's kick was touched so everyone is onside.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
But, BH, I'm saying that Powell simply put his hands on Deegan. Did not flop on him or leave his feet. What is illegal about that to warrant a penalty?
If the kick was touched then no issue but is there evidence that that happened? I didn't get the impression live that it was anything other than a poor kick.
If the kick was touched then no issue but is there evidence that that happened? I didn't get the impression live that it was anything other than a poor kick.
He's definitely a little unlucky but he did go off his feet. He slid in on one knee then got back up.
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Thanks BH. Probably a 50/50 call, but live it didn't look right to me.
This is definitely a problematic law. The concept is fine that it is dangerous to dive on someone who is already on the ground as they are pretty vulnerable.
This one here is totally safe though. Powell does attempt to stay on his feet pretty well and it is difficult for him to do it much better.
Technically just placing a hand on Deegan should complete a tackle and Deegan needs to release. We all know the reality there though is that he tries to get up, Powell then brings him back to ground and it buys the Rebels some time to get more support there. Unless referees start being strict on the player releasing once they've had a hand placed on them it is hard for the defensive team to stay legal and challenge for a turnover in what is a situation where they should have an advantage.
In the Tahs vs Reds game Wilson got penalised for tackling Hooper on the ground and that one was one that should be penalised. He came in and wacked Hooper who was defenseless pretty hard in the ribs.
This one here is totally safe though. Powell does attempt to stay on his feet pretty well and it is difficult for him to do it much better.
Technically just placing a hand on Deegan should complete a tackle and Deegan needs to release. We all know the reality there though is that he tries to get up, Powell then brings him back to ground and it buys the Rebels some time to get more support there. Unless referees start being strict on the player releasing once they've had a hand placed on them it is hard for the defensive team to stay legal and challenge for a turnover in what is a situation where they should have an advantage.
In the Tahs vs Reds game Wilson got penalised for tackling Hooper on the ground and that one was one that should be penalised. He came in and wacked Hooper who was defenseless pretty hard in the ribs.
One thing that has really annoyed me in Super AU is the officiating of scrums. It seems 75% of all scrums will end in a penalty to one side or the other.
A few times on Saturday night the ball was at the back and in the halfback's hands, on it's way to the backline when the ref blew a penalty to the attacking side for a scrum infringement. Let the ball go! Let the set piece do what it is supposed to do, FFS.
A few times on Saturday night the ball was at the back and in the halfback's hands, on it's way to the backline when the ref blew a penalty to the attacking side for a scrum infringement. Let the ball go! Let the set piece do what it is supposed to do, FFS.
KOB1987
John Eales (66)
agree, just bring in the use it or lose it call at that point
Per Brendon Shields there were 13 scrums in the Tahs vs Reds game, 5 resets, 9 scrum penalties, 2 free kicks and only 2 completed scrums.
That is diabolical.
(I can't quite reconcile that back to the match stats but it's a pretty clear sign there is plenty wrong with how we are doing scrums).
That is diabolical.
(I can't quite reconcile that back to the match stats but it's a pretty clear sign there is plenty wrong with how we are doing scrums).
We all saw it didn't we? Brumbies halback clearly off side in the lead up to a try and we go upstairs. Every procedure followed perfectly TMO, ref and touchie all watching and no one spoke up and said 'hang on a sec isn't that guy slightly offside?'
What went wrong?
https://www.theroar.com.au/rugby-un...mby-try-despite-being-a-mile-offside-1089074/
What went wrong?
https://www.theroar.com.au/rugby-un...mby-try-despite-being-a-mile-offside-1089074/
Brumby Runner
Jason Little (69)
Last try after the bell by the Reds reviewed by the officials for a possible knock on. Looked to me that the player was bound to the ruck and picked the ball up in the ruck. Anyone else see it this way?
Forcefield
Ken Catchpole (46)
I saw it that way and I was appalled. We were totally still in the game at that point and the ref ruined it.
More seriously, I thought the turnover that led to Reds possession at that point was dodgy but the try looked fine to me.
waiopehu oldboy
George Smith (75)
Owen Farrell may finally be about to get his comeuppance for this effort:
Sundry UK pundits calling for a 10-week ban & as more than one has mentioned, imagine the shit storm if a PI player did that to Lord Owen.......
Sundry UK pundits calling for a 10-week ban & as more than one has mentioned, imagine the shit storm if a PI player did that to Lord Owen.......